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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 28 2011 14:33 GMT
#3681
On November 28 2011 23:30 kslghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 23:25 Tsubbi wrote:
going through the vods now as always, still cannot believe how poorly oz played, really thought he would be the 2nd protoss player in gsl finals after mc

inca.


omg that final was erased from my memory, poor inca
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 14:50:39
November 28 2011 14:35 GMT
#3682
On November 28 2011 22:50 Zalithian wrote:
This is always how things go. Whoever wins recently = THE BEST EVER. Same with every player really. The hype train just cannot be stopped. Stephano doing well on ladder? OMG STEPHANO IS THE BEST FOREIGNER OF ALL TIME. Hero wins his first tournament ever? OMG HE IS THE BEST PROTOSS IN THE WORLD. Naniwa won like 5 matches at Providence? BEST TOSS IN THE WORLD HANDS DOWN.

It's really silly. There's no denying all those players are really good, but just because someone does really well at something recently certainly does not make them the best.

While that is true this is quite different tough.
We are not talking about silly ladder rankings or a winning streak.
Leenock always looked great ever since GSL open season 2,remember him and clide on skakuras back then? It was awesome.
For some reason he had terrible luck with the players he went up against.
Now we seen him doing 34 - 5 sets at the most stacked MLG there is and taking down MVP, the claimed best player in the world.

While saying he is the best is still early its not the same in competition/consistency in examples.
Ravomat
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany422 Posts
November 28 2011 14:40 GMT
#3683
On November 28 2011 22:58 sheepduck wrote:
haven't read too far back in this thread, but what do people think about MVP accidentally lowering all his depot's at the end of that last game? i think if it werent for that he would have possibly been able to stay in the game long enough to stabilize... especially when looking back at game 2 in that same sense.


To me it looked like the wall wasn't tight and he lowered the depots when he saw the lings slip in.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 28 2011 14:45 GMT
#3684
Jjakji vs Leenock 0-2 so far in the gsl. Anyone know Jjakji' TvZ skill atm?
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
November 28 2011 14:47 GMT
#3685
Holy crap. MVP lost :O

I need to watch the Vods.

Oz losing is no surprise though Jkaki is pretty awesome.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
November 28 2011 14:50 GMT
#3686
Shit, I can't believe MVP lost. What a crappy start to the weekend. Hope Jakji can crush leenock and take revenge.
Apolex
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada103 Posts
November 28 2011 14:52 GMT
#3687
On November 28 2011 23:45 gruff wrote:
Jjakji vs Leenock 0-2 so far in the gsl. Anyone know Jjakji' TvZ skill atm?



No one has better tvz then mvp ... all hope is lost .. leenock's got this.
Jealousy is a sin.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
November 28 2011 14:53 GMT
#3688
On November 28 2011 23:52 Apolex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 23:45 gruff wrote:
Jjakji vs Leenock 0-2 so far in the gsl. Anyone know Jjakji' TvZ skill atm?



No one has better tvz then mvp ... all hope is lost .. leenock's got this.


I think MMA's TvZ is quite close if not better than MVP when he's on top form, but MVP is definately one of the best so Leenock has this I think.
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Kubricks
Profile Joined November 2011
284 Posts
November 28 2011 14:55 GMT
#3689
Holy shit Leenock, suddenly powering up after that MLG win, wrecking everything.

IM's stuck-at-three-championships curse, haha.
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
November 28 2011 14:55 GMT
#3690
On November 28 2011 23:53 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 23:52 Apolex wrote:
On November 28 2011 23:45 gruff wrote:
Jjakji vs Leenock 0-2 so far in the gsl. Anyone know Jjakji' TvZ skill atm?



No one has better tvz then mvp ... all hope is lost .. leenock's got this.


I think MMA's TvZ is quite close if not better than MVP when he's on top form, but MVP is definately one of the best so Leenock has this I think.

Yeah, MMA's TvZ has got to be better, because he's got amazing Zerg practice partners like Min while MVP has to practice with Nestea and Losira.

(Although I think you're right, MMA's TvZ is pretty amazing.)
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 15:02:43
November 28 2011 15:02 GMT
#3691
--- Nuked ---
oweia
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany83 Posts
November 28 2011 15:08 GMT
#3692
On November 28 2011 23:55 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 23:53 Qikz wrote:
On November 28 2011 23:52 Apolex wrote:
On November 28 2011 23:45 gruff wrote:
Jjakji vs Leenock 0-2 so far in the gsl. Anyone know Jjakji' TvZ skill atm?



No one has better tvz then mvp ... all hope is lost .. leenock's got this.


I think MMA's TvZ is quite close if not better than MVP when he's on top form, but MVP is definately one of the best so Leenock has this I think.

Yeah, MMA's TvZ has got to be better, because he's got amazing Zerg practice partners like Min while MVP has to practice with Nestea and Losira.

(Although I think you're right, MMA's TvZ is pretty amazing.)

:D this made me laugh pretty hard!
TaKiTaKi
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany58 Posts
November 28 2011 15:12 GMT
#3693
Leenock getting rich this month. Damn, he is even younger than me
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
November 28 2011 15:21 GMT
#3694
On November 28 2011 23:35 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 22:50 Zalithian wrote:
This is always how things go. Whoever wins recently = THE BEST EVER. Same with every player really. The hype train just cannot be stopped. Stephano doing well on ladder? OMG STEPHANO IS THE BEST FOREIGNER OF ALL TIME. Hero wins his first tournament ever? OMG HE IS THE BEST PROTOSS IN THE WORLD. Naniwa won like 5 matches at Providence? BEST TOSS IN THE WORLD HANDS DOWN.

It's really silly. There's no denying all those players are really good, but just because someone does really well at something recently certainly does not make them the best.

While that is true this is quite different tough.
We are not talking about silly ladder rankings or a winning streak.
Leenock always looked great ever since GSL open season 2,remember him and clide on skakuras back then? It was awesome.
For some reason he had terrible luck with the players he went up against.
Now we seen him doing 34 - 5 sets at the most stacked MLG there is and taking down MVP, the claimed best player in the world.

While saying he is the best is still early its not the same in competition/consistency in examples.


This is exactly why people can't claim leenock is the best. He's had 2 good showings. The consistency isn't there. You can call it bad luck, I call it not being able to handle the top players (until recently). Leenock is definitely on a hot streak right now, but to call him the best in the world over someone with what..9 championships in 2011? Silly.
The Notorious Winkles
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
November 28 2011 15:26 GMT
#3695
On November 28 2011 23:30 kslghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 23:25 Tsubbi wrote:
going through the vods now as always, still cannot believe how poorly oz played, really thought he would be the 2nd protoss player in gsl finals after mc

inca.


nobody ever remembers inca lol.
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NEgroidZerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States244 Posts
November 28 2011 15:27 GMT
#3696
It's not TvT. Icould cry I'm so happy...
Yeah
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
November 28 2011 15:27 GMT
#3697
Well just so saw first 2 games of Leenock vs MVP and im in total speechless mode, i mean, no words can describe those insanity in second game, i mean really WTF happened there , madness man, time to third game, i just needed to get this words out of me.
youtube.com/N0rthernL1ght
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
November 28 2011 15:33 GMT
#3698
On November 29 2011 00:26 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 23:30 kslghost wrote:
On November 28 2011 23:25 Tsubbi wrote:
going through the vods now as always, still cannot believe how poorly oz played, really thought he would be the 2nd protoss player in gsl finals after mc

inca.


nobody ever remembers inca lol.

we dont talk about that finals round heer anymore
d0k
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 15:40:28
November 28 2011 15:39 GMT
#3699
On November 29 2011 00:21 rysecake wrote:
This is exactly why people can't claim leenock is the best. He's had 2 good showings. The consistency isn't there. You can call it bad luck, I call it not being able to handle the top players (until recently). Leenock is definitely on a hot streak right now, but to call him the best in the world over someone with what..9 championships in 2011? Silly.


still I think and I gues you wouldn't argue, that it is damn impressive to have a 16y old getting such results. How can you be consistent if you're still that young. I wouldn't call him best at the moment but he is THE Player to look for in the future for sure. So, not the best but the one of the most noteworthy.
"If you can't find the needle, burn the haystack!"
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 15:43:01
November 28 2011 15:41 GMT
#3700
Disappointed that we didn't get OZ into the finals, it would probably be awesome.
Actually scratch that. I don't think he would beat Leenock anyway, and now he has successfully avoided the GSL 2nd place curse.
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