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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
November 21 2011 12:41 GMT
#17601
This kid played insanely well. Just wow. Tastosis shouting "OH MY GOOOOD" like 100 times in mvp vs leenock match :D
Hubris
Profile Joined November 2010
United States113 Posts
November 21 2011 12:50 GMT
#17602
On November 21 2011 18:50 soulist wrote:
I think that Naniwa should have won the tournament considering he played the best out of everyone at the tournament and if you think that Leenock played better than Naniwa at the tournament then you obviously don't know much about sc2. But Leenock played Naniwa as youre supposed to play Naniwa. Gratz to Leenock and hope to see more of him in the future and hopefully he's such cheesing because I was a fan of him before that series but now not so much anymore.



yes, his two base all ins should have won every match, but they didn't. Leenock deserved that win more than Naniwa He beat him 4-1 AFTER beating just about every top tier pro in the tourny for 3 days straight.
Wut?
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
November 21 2011 12:57 GMT
#17603
On November 21 2011 21:19 Megatronn wrote:
Leenock played to win and deserved the victory, BUT, like White Ra said after being cheesed 3 games in a row by MC in the Dreamhack invitational "that was championship match, not championship games"

Grats Leenock, I think he could take GSL after watching that.

There are always 2 players affecting the game
what would be a proper build to beat FFE every game and show 'championship games' ?

Leenock played great, I'm very happy for him
Nymbul
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom127 Posts
November 21 2011 13:03 GMT
#17604
On November 21 2011 21:57 nRoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 21:19 Megatronn wrote:
Leenock played to win and deserved the victory, BUT, like White Ra said after being cheesed 3 games in a row by MC in the Dreamhack invitational "that was championship match, not championship games"

Grats Leenock, I think he could take GSL after watching that.

There are always 2 players affecting the game
what would be a proper build to beat FFE every game and show 'championship games' ?

Leenock played great, I'm very happy for him


Taking an extremely early 3rd and just crushing the timing attack that comes out of a 2 base toss
Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 13:05:41
November 21 2011 13:04 GMT
#17605
On November 21 2011 18:50 soulist wrote:
I think that Naniwa should have won the tournament considering he played the best out of everyone at the tournament and if you think that Leenock played better than Naniwa at the tournament then you obviously don't know much about sc2. But Leenock played Naniwa as youre supposed to play Naniwa. Gratz to Leenock and hope to see more of him in the future and hopefully he's such cheesing because I was a fan of him before that series but now not so much anymore.


The player who deserved to win is the player who successfully navigated both the game and the tournament format, and playing appropriately to win every match he needed to, including the finals.

In other words, the guy who deserves to win is the guy who won.

I hate this whole "Well, he lost but he really deserved to win." You're like the LA Dodgers fans I used to know as a kid who despite their team losing every year, would say shit like "Well, LA is really the better team. . ."

No he didn't. He lost. Leenock didn't cheat. Naniwa just lost.
TeeHigh
Profile Joined November 2011
2 Posts
November 21 2011 13:08 GMT
#17606
Naniwa: Wins 3 Series, loses 2

=> 2nd place, code S spot

I wonder If he'll win a single game there.
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
November 21 2011 13:09 GMT
#17607
Can anyone explain why the final was an extended series? I'm scouring the brackets trying to find when Nani and Leenock first played (and Leenock won 2-1 apparently?) but I can't find it anywhere.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
November 21 2011 13:11 GMT
#17608
On November 21 2011 22:08 TeeHigh wrote:
Naniwa: Wins 3 Series, loses 2

=> 2nd place, code S spot

I wonder If he'll win a single game there.

He beat MVP (3 time champion), Nestea (3 time chamipon) twice and took out DRG.

I think he'll do just fine.
mrGRAPE
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore293 Posts
November 21 2011 13:19 GMT
#17609
Frankly, I have never heard much about Leenock until MLG Providence. I don't follow the GSL as much and I am damn glad that that Leenock came all the way from the open bracket and managed to pull out this amazing feat. Props to him. He truly deserved this win no matter what "cheesy" tactics he used or how well Naniwa did leading up to the finals.
Starcraft 2 and eSports enthusiast. https://twitter.com/#!/mrGRAPETV | http://mrgrapetv.wordpress.com/
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 21 2011 13:19 GMT
#17610
On November 21 2011 22:09 Psyqo wrote:
Can anyone explain why the final was an extended series? I'm scouring the brackets trying to find when Nani and Leenock first played (and Leenock won 2-1 apparently?) but I can't find it anywhere.


It's double elimination. So in the finals Leenock had to win the first Bo3 played.
SinTio
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany871 Posts
November 21 2011 13:22 GMT
#17611
On November 21 2011 22:09 Psyqo wrote:
Can anyone explain why the final was an extended series? I'm scouring the brackets trying to find when Nani and Leenock first played (and Leenock won 2-1 apparently?) but I can't find it anywhere.


It wasn't an extended series from the beginning. Double Elimination made the final two Bo3's and Naniwa only needed to win one.
He lost the first one. The second started and because of the, in this case even more, ridiculous extended series rule the second Bo3 was a Bo7 starting with the result of the first Bo3.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10871 Posts
November 21 2011 13:23 GMT
#17612
On November 21 2011 22:08 TeeHigh wrote:
Naniwa: Wins 3 Series, loses 2

=> 2nd place, code S spot

I wonder If he'll win a single game there.



Stop praising fucking Code S like it's another world.. It's not.
This MLG Naniwa alone probably beat as many high quality players as Huk in his whole Code S career and people still doubt him?

WTF?
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
November 21 2011 13:28 GMT
#17613
On November 21 2011 22:08 TeeHigh wrote:
Naniwa: Wins 3 Series, loses 2

=> 2nd place, code S spot

I wonder If he'll win a single game there.


He defeated MVP, Nestea (twice) and HuK and these players have won some games in the GSL, so Naniwa also has chances to win a game there.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
November 21 2011 13:28 GMT
#17614
On November 21 2011 22:08 TeeHigh wrote:
Naniwa: Wins 3 Series, loses 2

=> 2nd place, code S spot

I wonder If he'll win a single game there.


If he works a second scout into his build he'll be alright.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 21 2011 13:32 GMT
#17615
I dislike Zergs with a passion, but leenock really deserves mad respect for what he did. The format needs to be changed though, having a seed should not give you such an advantage over OB players.

Terran & Potato Salad.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 21 2011 13:35 GMT
#17616
On November 21 2011 22:32 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
I dislike Zergs with a passion, but leenock really deserves mad respect for what he did. The format needs to be changed though, having a seed should not give you such an advantage over OB players.



People who have come to pretty much every MLG, and consistently perform well, should not be rewarded?

Really?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
November 21 2011 13:39 GMT
#17617
On November 21 2011 20:39 Grend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 20:32 LighT. wrote:
I think this MLG has also proven IMMVP to be the true final boss of all tournaments...
There's practically an unwritten rule that goes something like:
"The One who's able to knock out MVP out of a tournament, foreign or international, shall be granted immortality status and win the tournament"

It happened with
MMA vs MVP in GSL
Naniwa vs MVP MLG: GI
Leenock vs MVP MLG: Providence


So MMA going on to win GSL after beating MVP proves what exactly?




It proves my point :p.....

On November 21 2011 21:30 Apolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 20:32 LighT. wrote:
I think this MLG has also proven IMMVP to be the true final boss of all tournaments...
There's practically an unwritten rule that goes something like:
"The One who's able to knock out MVP out of a tournament, foreign or international, shall be granted immortality status and win the tournament"

It happened with
MMA vs MVP in GSL
Naniwa vs MVP MLG: GI
Leenock vs MVP MLG: Providence


Naniwa beat MVP btw

Yes, yes, YES!
That's why my theory works you see? -.-
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 13:49:40
November 21 2011 13:48 GMT
#17618
On November 21 2011 22:28 Sandermatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 22:08 TeeHigh wrote:
Naniwa: Wins 3 Series, loses 2

=> 2nd place, code S spot

I wonder If he'll win a single game there.


He defeated MVP, Nestea (twice) and HuK and these players have won some games in the GSL, so Naniwa also has chances to win a game there.


We'll just have to wait and see really. I think he stands a chance.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
November 21 2011 14:04 GMT
#17619
It really annoys me that people are still criticizing Leenock for his cheese. I would criticize Leenock too after the first game. Then after the second game, I would start to ask myself why isn't Naniwa expecting this. Then after the third and fourth game, I would think, leenock totally deserves this because of Naniwa's inflexibility and the now obvious flaws in his build.

Now looking at it even more carefully in hindsight, I wouldn't even criticize Leenock at all, he exploited an obvious weakness that naniwa refused to fix. Hell, if you do a build over and over and over again, you better make sure its cheese proof; no cheese proof builds are called risks that you take here and there which naniwa just did every single time.

Congratulations to leenock. Seriously, the kid is amazing.
Gameplay > Personality
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
November 21 2011 14:06 GMT
#17620
Well it is not Naniwas fault that the MLG have a code S spot for the first 2 players. He played the games he was expected to and did it amazing. He beat 2 GSL champions and Code S players and Huk who is one of the best foreigners who also is in Code S.

He does not have to apologize for anything even if he gets raped in Code S.

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