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On November 14 2011 20:29 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:22 Lunares wrote:
He lost to oGsTheSTC 0-2 in the open bracket, got into championship bracket from the losers, and then lost to boxer 1-2. Incorrect. He went undefeated through the Open Bracket, went 4-1 in his pool, and then lost to Boxer 1-2. He didn't even play TheSTC.
How can anyone be so incorrect yet so confident ....[/QUOTE]
The irony
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Orlando/Open_Bracket
Bracket 1 Semifinals.
Stephano losing 0-2 to oGsTheSTC
or maybe you thought I was talking about a different player?
Edit: the quotes got messed up somewhere. Too lazy to fix.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 14 2011 20:33 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:32 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:31 Elem wrote:On November 14 2011 20:30 TheKefka wrote:On November 14 2011 20:29 Sc2Null wrote:
what is with progamers keeping their mouths agape. Wannabe magikarps. Real magikarps. They might eventually turn into Gyarados (like Mvp) but most just make a few splashes then disappear. Haha you missed the reference  I am a WC3 player, be merciful~~~
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On November 14 2011 20:34 JohnnyBanana wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:33 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:29 Haydin wrote:On November 14 2011 20:23 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Waxangel wrote:
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Not even close the truth! Counterexample? you watched BW, do I really have to? I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment. This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity. I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players. Eh? I'd say the same thing if people said idra was eliminated because of nerves. I think you have a bone to pick with me/TL for some reason you've been harping on about it all night! Please address my first point if you want to have a leg to stand on. It's a side discussion related to a player. It's not balance whining, it's not caster bashing. It's an intelligent discussion of the background of one of the players who we saw tonight. This isn't hypocrisy at all. This LR thread is reasonable and fun without completely derailing from the games. What's your problem? Irrelevant debate is irrelevant debate. Doesn't which irrelevant thing it addresses. Your last 10 posts have been pretty irrelevant to this LR thread.
As is this one from you.
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On November 14 2011 20:33 Pipeline wrote:
Naniwa singing?
they were talking about tod
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On November 14 2011 20:33 BuzZoo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:29 Haydin wrote:On November 14 2011 20:23 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:
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I was under the impression progamers (of all games) had most of their nerve issues solved if they were famous enough to be known? Not even close the truth! Counterexample? you watched BW, do I really have to? I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment. This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity. I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players. Eh? I'd say the same thing if people said idra was eliminated because of nerves. I think you have a bone to pick with me/TL for some reason you've been harping on about it all night! Please address my first point if you want to have a leg to stand on. It's a side discussion related to a player. It's not balance whining, it's not caster bashing. It's an intelligent discussion of the background of one of the players who we saw tonight. This isn't hypocrisy at all. This LR thread is reasonable and fun without completely derailing from the games. What's your problem? Irrelevant debate is irrelevant debate. Doesn't which irrelevant thing it addresses.
Dude what the hell...this is the LR thread. A while ago we were having a big argument about what the best Disney movie is (It's Lion King, don't even try it guys) while there's a game going
There's also continuous puns thrown around, plus random personal conversations
Welcome to LR....
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On November 14 2011 20:33 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:31 bigbeau wrote:On November 14 2011 20:29 poorcloud wrote:On November 14 2011 20:22 Lunares wrote:
He lost to oGsTheSTC 0-2 in the open bracket, got into championship bracket from the losers, and then lost to boxer 1-2.
Incorrect. He went undefeated through the Open Bracket, went 4-1 in his pool, and then lost to Boxer 1-2. He didn't even play TheSTC.
How can anyone be so incorrect yet so confident .... uhh...youre incorrect yet confident. He lost to thestc in the open bracket, then lost to boxer after making it through to the championship bracket and beating a lot of people (we're talking about stephano in case thats not who you thought) Uh actually the "How can anyone be so incorrect yet so confident ...." was my response to someone's else quote. I think i accidentally deleted the quote button ol..
which was a pretty clear to see mistake, people just love to jump to conclusions of what someones trying to say..
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Zerg scouting tools are pretty good.
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On November 14 2011 20:34 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:33 Elem wrote:On November 14 2011 20:32 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:31 Elem wrote:On November 14 2011 20:30 TheKefka wrote:On November 14 2011 20:29 Sc2Null wrote:
what is with progamers keeping their mouths agape. Wannabe magikarps. Real magikarps. They might eventually turn into Gyarados (like Mvp) but most just make a few splashes then disappear. Haha you missed the reference I am a WC3 player, be merciful~~~ + Show Spoiler + Ah, I see! Checked Liquipedia.
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On November 14 2011 20:34 Lunares wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:29 poorcloud wrote:On November 14 2011 20:22 Lunares wrote:
He lost to oGsTheSTC 0-2 in the open bracket, got into championship bracket from the losers, and then lost to boxer 1-2. Incorrect. He went undefeated through the Open Bracket, went 4-1 in his pool, and then lost to Boxer 1-2. He didn't even play TheSTC. How can anyone be so incorrect yet so confident ....
The irony
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Orlando/Open_Bracket
Bracket 1 Semifinals.
Stephano losing 0-2 to oGsTheSTC
or maybe you thought I was talking about a different player?[/QUOTE]
Nooooo i was responding to another guy. I just happened to merge his quote with my reply.
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On November 14 2011 20:35 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:33 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:29 Haydin wrote:On November 14 2011 20:23 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Waxangel wrote:
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Not even close the truth! Counterexample? you watched BW, do I really have to? I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment. This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity. I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players. Eh? I'd say the same thing if people said idra was eliminated because of nerves. I think you have a bone to pick with me/TL for some reason you've been harping on about it all night! Please address my first point if you want to have a leg to stand on. It's a side discussion related to a player. It's not balance whining, it's not caster bashing. It's an intelligent discussion of the background of one of the players who we saw tonight. This isn't hypocrisy at all. This LR thread is reasonable and fun without completely derailing from the games. What's your problem? Irrelevant debate is irrelevant debate. Doesn't which irrelevant thing it addresses. Dude what the hell...this is the LR thread. A while ago we were having a big argument about what the best Disney movie is (It's Lion King, don't even try it guys) while there's a game going There's also continuous puns thrown around, plus random personal conversations Welcome to LR....
Isn't it Aladdin? =D?
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United States97277 Posts
On November 14 2011 20:36 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:35 Hassybaby wrote:On November 14 2011 20:33 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:29 Haydin wrote:On November 14 2011 20:23 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:
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Counterexample? you watched BW, do I really have to? I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment. This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity. I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players. Eh? I'd say the same thing if people said idra was eliminated because of nerves. I think you have a bone to pick with me/TL for some reason you've been harping on about it all night! Please address my first point if you want to have a leg to stand on. It's a side discussion related to a player. It's not balance whining, it's not caster bashing. It's an intelligent discussion of the background of one of the players who we saw tonight. This isn't hypocrisy at all. This LR thread is reasonable and fun without completely derailing from the games. What's your problem? Irrelevant debate is irrelevant debate. Doesn't which irrelevant thing it addresses. Dude what the hell...this is the LR thread. A while ago we were having a big argument about what the best Disney movie is (It's Lion King, don't even try it guys) while there's a game going There's also continuous puns thrown around, plus random personal conversations Welcome to LR.... Isn't it Aladdin? =D?
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Can't someone LR? @School atm and can't watch the stream.. go nani </3
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On November 14 2011 20:36 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:35 Hassybaby wrote:On November 14 2011 20:33 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:29 Haydin wrote:On November 14 2011 20:23 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:
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Counterexample? you watched BW, do I really have to? I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment. This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity. I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players. Eh? I'd say the same thing if people said idra was eliminated because of nerves. I think you have a bone to pick with me/TL for some reason you've been harping on about it all night! Please address my first point if you want to have a leg to stand on. It's a side discussion related to a player. It's not balance whining, it's not caster bashing. It's an intelligent discussion of the background of one of the players who we saw tonight. This isn't hypocrisy at all. This LR thread is reasonable and fun without completely derailing from the games. What's your problem? Irrelevant debate is irrelevant debate. Doesn't which irrelevant thing it addresses. Dude what the hell...this is the LR thread. A while ago we were having a big argument about what the best Disney movie is (It's Lion King, don't even try it guys) while there's a game going There's also continuous puns thrown around, plus random personal conversations Welcome to LR.... Isn't it Aladdin? =D?
Don't you dare bittman
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On November 14 2011 20:33 BuzZoo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:29 Haydin wrote:On November 14 2011 20:23 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:
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I was under the impression progamers (of all games) had most of their nerve issues solved if they were famous enough to be known? Not even close the truth! Counterexample? you watched BW, do I really have to? I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment. This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity. I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players. Eh? I'd say the same thing if people said idra was eliminated because of nerves. I think you have a bone to pick with me/TL for some reason you've been harping on about it all night! Please address my first point if you want to have a leg to stand on. It's a side discussion related to a player. It's not balance whining, it's not caster bashing. It's an intelligent discussion of the background of one of the players who we saw tonight. This isn't hypocrisy at all. This LR thread is reasonable and fun without completely derailing from the games. What's your problem? Irrelevant debate is irrelevant debate. Doesn't which irrelevant thing it addresses.
Holy crap dude. It is irrelevant debate. It's like shooting the shit. Small talk. Sometimes theres nothing game related to talk about. Notice how casters who are actually CASTING the game dont constantly talk about the game? They drift off to unrelated tangents because theres not always stuff to talk about. I dont know why you think telling an admin he is wrong is going to do anything, hes an admin. That means he basically makes the rules that youre trying to pull on him. He's a demigod of the forum, and as long as hes a benevolent, non-flaming, well-articulated demigod, he can post what he wants to.
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On November 14 2011 20:22 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:21 NepTuniO wrote:On November 14 2011 20:17 Hierarch wrote:On November 14 2011 20:16 Tidus Mino wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Zzoram wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 kaetor wrote:
Ahh he had a lot of time before JYP's blink was done, probaly should have made the most of that!
Though he was pretty much screwed because of the choke anyway.
JYP is one of the better Koreans, so not too bad losing to him. Think Naniwa has a good chance of advancing, though it seems like foreigners never play up to standard vs Koreans. Or maybe Koreans usually play better than foreigners, and foreigners keep using excuses instead of getting better. Only Huk and Idra can hang with Koreans these days and the results prove it. *Cough* Stephano *Cough* ^.^ Sigh, wait till Stephano competes in Korea, and people like to gloss over the fact that Stephano didn't make it very far at all at MLG orlando lol? he came from the open bracket and got that far. the amount of Bo3 he won in a row is amazing, and you say that? wowwoow Sigh again, another fanatic. How many notable players did he beat? Players have come out of the open bracket and had much better showings, ones that comes off the top of my head? Ganzi, SaSe, MKP
sigh sigh sigh lol. he went 14-6 in the tournament, beating whitera and kiwikaki on the way. he lost to StC (who said he had thewind study stephano specifically to defeat him) and boxer (who is so aware of stephano that he said that he has created a brand new way to play ZvT - an unusual situation from a foreigner). yet you look down on him for this performance. but that's okay, because stephano has won more or less every other tourney he has entered it seems like lol. Remember, he is the highest non-korean competitor in prize money this year, despite only really entering tournaments in the past 3-4 months. All of the 5 players above him have won at least one GSL, a tournament stephano has never played.... he is quite comfortably worthy of being mentioned alongside huk and idra lol!
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I dont whether it's Moletrap or Khaldor, or someone else doing the obversing, but they're doing a shitty job...
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On November 14 2011 20:36 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:34 Lunares wrote:On November 14 2011 20:29 poorcloud wrote:On November 14 2011 20:22 Lunares wrote:
He lost to oGsTheSTC 0-2 in the open bracket, got into championship bracket from the losers, and then lost to boxer 1-2. Incorrect. He went undefeated through the Open Bracket, went 4-1 in his pool, and then lost to Boxer 1-2. He didn't even play TheSTC. How can anyone be so incorrect yet so confident .... The irony http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Orlando/Open_BracketBracket 1 Semifinals. Stephano losing 0-2 to oGsTheSTC or maybe you thought I was talking about a different player?
Nooooo i was responding to another guy. I just happened to merge his quote with my reply.[/QUOTE]
Somebody thought stephano didn't get wiped out by thestc once his style got figured out so. that's what matters.
TheSTC even said that once his coach (oGsTheWind) told him what to do beating stephano was "easy". He has a really unique style that came out of nowhere, that really helped for a lot of his IPL3 wins. He is absolutely great, but imo he is not as good as Idra or most korean zergs. He just happened to bring a new style.
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