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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 14 2011 11:37 GMT
#1961
lucky did some roach pressure against nani, nani defended with zealots which did way more damage that it should have

currently 3base for lucky vs 2base for nani

naniwa currently FF/warpprism dropping the mineral line - missed a lot of drones
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
November 14 2011 11:37 GMT
#1962
Sloppy play by Naniwa. I think he should have gone for the ramp or forcefield more drones.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
November 14 2011 11:38 GMT
#1963
On November 14 2011 20:29 labbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 20:27 synaptik wrote:

i hate hearing all these foreigners "not playing their best" against koreans. can we just up and admit that even at their best, the vast majority of foreigners are not up to korean standards?

What are you talking about? These guys live in SK and we see them play Koreans all the time online. It's just when it comes down to the GSL they don't play as well as we're used to seeing them.


I'm honestly not sure if we can weigh streaming that much. Plenty of players look great in practice, but don't shine in leagues, and I remember BW coaches have explained that aired games are completely different than practice games. What really matters to me is what they can show in tourneys, where we know for certain both players are taking their games seriously, and Sase has had multiple chances to do so.

I mean there are only so many foreigners in GSL and as far as I know they don't have any real advantages over Koreans. Chances are, most of them will lose. I wouldn't mind if I am proven wrong though.
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
November 14 2011 11:38 GMT
#1964
sloppy nani... come on man.
We march to victory!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 14 2011 11:38 GMT
#1965
Drop was pretty poor, barely killed anything and looks like he is down around 10 workers

Going in for a second drop but once again lucky has great reactoin speed and drop doesn't do anything
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 11:39:30
November 14 2011 11:38 GMT
#1966
On November 14 2011 20:33 BuzZoo wrote:
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On November 14 2011 20:29 Haydin wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:23 BuzZoo wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:11 Waxangel wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:
[quote]
I was under the impression progamers (of all games) had most of their nerve issues solved if they were famous enough to be known?


Not even close the truth!

Counterexample?


you watched BW, do I really have to?
I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment.


This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity.
I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players.

Eh? I'd say the same thing if people said idra was eliminated because of nerves. I think you have a bone to pick with me/TL for some reason you've been harping on about it all night!


Please address my first point if you want to have a leg to stand on.


It's a side discussion related to a player. It's not balance whining, it's not caster bashing. It's an intelligent discussion of the background of one of the players who we saw tonight. This isn't hypocrisy at all. This LR thread is reasonable and fun without completely derailing from the games. What's your problem?


Irrelevant debate is irrelevant debate. Doesn't which irrelevant thing it addresses.


The banning are to prevent endless caster bashing/balance whining, I believe. The goal is to create a fun AND informative LR thread, not just a pure play by play. What's the problem with that?

EDIT: Naniwa noooo. Lucky with great responses and it looks like Naniwa's got some nerves going on
aka ilovesharkpeople
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 14 2011 11:38 GMT
#1967
Oh so close Naniwa could have done plenty of damage, uncharacteristic screw up by him.
Killcani
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden448 Posts
November 14 2011 11:38 GMT
#1968
oh crap mutas out gg for p
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#1969
This PvZ is really uninspired....not a good build way too gimmicky.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#1970
On November 14 2011 20:38 Killcani wrote:
oh crap mutas out gg for p


Genius counters with carriers =P
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#1971
On November 14 2011 20:37 NepTuniO wrote:
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On November 14 2011 20:22 Hierarch wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:21 NepTuniO wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:17 Hierarch wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:16 Tidus Mino wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:14 Zzoram wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:11 kaetor wrote:
Ahh he had a lot of time before JYP's blink was done, probaly should have made the most of that!
Though he was pretty much screwed because of the choke anyway.

JYP is one of the better Koreans, so not too bad losing to him. Think Naniwa has a good chance of advancing, though it seems like foreigners never play up to standard vs Koreans.


Or maybe Koreans usually play better than foreigners, and foreigners keep using excuses instead of getting better.

Only Huk and Idra can hang with Koreans these days and the results prove it.


*Cough* Stephano *Cough* ^.^


Sigh, wait till Stephano competes in Korea, and people like to gloss over the fact that Stephano didn't make it very far at all at MLG orlando


lol?

he came from the open bracket and got that far. the amount of Bo3 he won in a row is amazing, and you say that? wowwoow


Sigh again, another fanatic. How many notable players did he beat? Players have come out of the open bracket and had much better showings, ones that comes off the top of my head? Ganzi, SaSe, MKP



sigh sigh sigh lol. he went 14-6 in the tournament, beating whitera and kiwikaki on the way. he lost to StC (who said he had thewind study stephano specifically to defeat him) and boxer (who is so aware of stephano that he said that he has created a brand new way to play TvZ). yet you look down on him for this performance. but that's okay, because stephano has won more or less every other tourney he has entered it seems like lol. Remember, he is the highest non-korean competitor in prize money this year, despite only really entering tournaments in the past 3-4 months. All of the 5 players above him have won at least one GSL, a tournament stephano has never played.... he is quite comfortably worthy of being mentioned alongside huk and idra lol!


I didn't say he wasn't worthy FFS, my initial point was the level of fanaticism that follows him is annoying and you guys are furthering my point. I even have given him praise by saying I like his play and think he can succeed vs Koreans. I just want to see him do it in Korea.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
November 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#1972
and heeeeeere come the mutas
We march to victory!
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
November 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#1973
lol mutas

nani so dedd
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
NepTuniO
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom57 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 11:39:51
November 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#1974
On November 14 2011 20:37 Lunares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 20:36 poorcloud wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:34 Lunares wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:29 poorcloud wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:22 Lunares wrote:
He lost to oGsTheSTC 0-2 in the open bracket, got into championship bracket from the losers, and then lost to boxer 1-2.


Incorrect. He went undefeated through the Open Bracket, went 4-1 in his pool, and then lost to Boxer 1-2. He didn't even play TheSTC.


How can anyone be so incorrect yet so confident ....


The irony

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Orlando/Open_Bracket

Bracket 1 Semifinals.

Stephano losing 0-2 to oGsTheSTC

or maybe you thought I was talking about a different player?


Nooooo i was responding to another guy. I just happened to merge his quote with my reply.


pretty sure i would take stephano's ZvP over IdrA's any day too.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#1975
Nani taking his third has is making colossus after two immortals - lucky has mutaslisks out and is pressuring third with roaches

nice FFs trap roaches and kill some while lucky attacks main as well - stalkers deflect mutas without losses
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#1976
On November 14 2011 20:39 demonik187 wrote:
and heeeeeere come the mutas


And theeeeereeee go the mutas~
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
November 14 2011 11:40 GMT
#1977
HongUn's game is so intense. Come on, HongUn...please win!
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
November 14 2011 11:40 GMT
#1978
On November 14 2011 20:39 Plexa wrote:
Nani taking his third has is making colossus after two immortals - lucky has mutaslisks out and is pressuring third with roaches

nice FFs trap roaches and kill some while lucky attacks main as well - stalkers deflect mutas without losses

NICE!!
"more gg, more skill"
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 14 2011 11:40 GMT
#1979
warp prism wandering into mutalisks and dies,

lucky attacks nani's third with roach/muta

nani has a lot of sentries which mostly get picked off in exchange for 95% of lucky's army.

4th going up for lucky - lucky on 90 drones/nani on 60ish probes

looks about even atm
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
divinesage
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore649 Posts
November 14 2011 11:40 GMT
#1980
Wow, both players making uncharacteristic sloppy plays.
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