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OMGKEI
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia590 Posts
November 01 2011 12:05 GMT
#2221
backdoor base with no rocks? 3 hatch before pool? oooh I can't wait for a toss to play zerg...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51392 Posts
November 01 2011 12:05 GMT
#2222
On November 01 2011 21:03 annYeong(o11) wrote:
Also wasn't there a format in BW where there were 3 players and the first player to win 2 in a row advanced?

Not super sure on that, but I think I can remember a group stage gonig for a really, really long time like 6 or 7 sets


lol thats the tiebreaker on the OSL Ro16.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
November 01 2011 12:05 GMT
#2223
Losira with a steel series green headset ? o.O Never seen anyone wear anything except the Banshee
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Kira.Yami
Profile Joined April 2010
158 Posts
November 01 2011 12:05 GMT
#2224
lol @ "LosirA killed that guy with roaches"... THAT GUY. ASD isn't the worst player in code S, common!
Push
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
November 01 2011 12:05 GMT
#2225
On November 01 2011 20:58 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Day9 is a professional commentator and sc1 pro gamer, he has as much or most of the insight of any person in the world, what does he need to analyze before making a suggestion for early game scouting? Idra said "its a coinflip at best when you have to guess your opponents build". Day9 had no reply to this, im not saying Day9 doesn't understand the game because he clearly does, but when Day9 or Idra cannot find a solution for zerg early game scouting, then the answer is there is no solution for early game scouting.

Nestea could of sacrificed 10 drones and made 10 spores blindly that game, however if SC went for a ground all in, how stupid would Nestea look? Like Idra said.. its a coinflip at best when you have to guess what your opponent is doing. Good job on SC's part though, he realized his 2 rax opening didn't work and followed up with an effective all-in.


Day9 and Idra are not the be all end all of intelligent Starcraft players. Because they can't figure out a way to solve zerg scouting during a 5 minute discussion, means that there is no zerg scouting? Is that seriously what you're implying?

And no, Day9 didn't reply to the argument because he actually went to a university where he majored in math. People like that have a very data-focused mindset and can't make broad speculations without information. Day9 never partook in the argument to begin with. That's what idras fanboys actually want to believe.

I can't believe you said that there is no early game scouting because two people in the entire world could not figure it out, regardless of whether they tried or not. You are actually annoying me...
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
November 01 2011 12:05 GMT
#2226
Losira is going to pretty much all-in again. If you can call it an all-in when you attack off three base and 40-ish drones.
Never make a hydralisk.
coReY425
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark86 Posts
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2227
On November 01 2011 21:02 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 21:01 coReY425 wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:53 Dalavita wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:51 Alric wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:47 Dalavita wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:45 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Idra debated this issue with day9 on SOTG couple months ago, the issue was that a zerg can't scout because of marines on the edge of the base.. day9 lost the debate because he couldn't explain how a zerg could scout. Nestea vs SC today showed that Idra was actually correct.


That was a dumb analysis.

First of all, Day9 didn't lose because he didn't even partake in an actual discussion right then. His answer was that he'd need more information before he could definitively deduct anything.

Also, saying that one game showed something correct is laughable.

The only thing this game showed us that Nesteas OL was millimeters from scouting the starports because they were close to the edge, and he spotted the banshees very early but didn't react properly.

You need to be slapped.

Screw you, dick. Idra won the debate because day[9] knew he couldn't win and refused to engage. "Need more information", what the fuck? What more information do you need after professionally analysing and casting sc2 for months? If idra and the zerg that "needs to be slapped" (such a dick comment, seriously) are such retards, then how does zerg scout that when the terran is walled off and has marines patrolling the edges of the base?


I don't even need to engage in an argument on zerg scouting. I'm talking about the argument day9 and Idra had ages ago, and yes, anyone saying "Idra won" is a blatant fanboy, because no serious argument took place to begin with, and they do need to get slapped.


Idra said that either zerg need to be able to scout (or deduct/eliminate builds), or they need a build that can react to all terran builds.
Day9 refused to accept that, without saying why. You must either hate Idra or love Day9 to not see that it wasnt Day9s proudest moment.

Idra's ideal game would be where terran can't put on any aggression of any form. The guy whined about terran in sc1 for christ's sake.


And? Just because Idra whines a lot, doesnt change the fact that the premise he said up was true, or atleast partly true, and day9 simply said he didnt accept it without arguing why. I love day9 as much as the next guy, but he did seem a bit silly in that discussion.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2228
--- Nuked ---
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2229
On November 01 2011 21:03 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 21:02 bittman wrote:
[image loading]

Anyone wearing shades like these deserves respect =D


wow the douchebags here at the disco who beat you up if you look at their girlfriends must get a lot of respect then

You know..... they probably do
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 12:06:33
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2230
Tastosis are being too hard on SC. SC would have to ASSUME Losira double expanded since he can't see him. SC being sick probably didn't have much time to practice on this map, much less prepare for what he would do against Double Expands.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Yuriegh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States327 Posts
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2231
On November 01 2011 21:05 Coal wrote:
Losira with a steel series green headset ? o.O Never seen anyone wear anything except the Banshee


Sponsors
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51392 Posts
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2232
On November 01 2011 21:05 Kira.Yami wrote:
lol @ "LosirA killed that guy with roaches"... THAT GUY. ASD isn't the worst player in code S, common!


who is the worst player on code s?

Ensnare?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2233
Hmm Losira actually has nothing
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 12:07:37
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2234
On November 01 2011 21:03 Yuriegh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 21:02 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 01 2011 21:01 coReY425 wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:53 Dalavita wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:51 Alric wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:47 Dalavita wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:45 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Idra debated this issue with day9 on SOTG couple months ago, the issue was that a zerg can't scout because of marines on the edge of the base.. day9 lost the debate because he couldn't explain how a zerg could scout. Nestea vs SC today showed that Idra was actually correct.


That was a dumb analysis.

First of all, Day9 didn't lose because he didn't even partake in an actual discussion right then. His answer was that he'd need more information before he could definitively deduct anything.

Also, saying that one game showed something correct is laughable.

The only thing this game showed us that Nesteas OL was millimeters from scouting the starports because they were close to the edge, and he spotted the banshees very early but didn't react properly.

You need to be slapped.

Screw you, dick. Idra won the debate because day[9] knew he couldn't win and refused to engage. "Need more information", what the fuck? What more information do you need after professionally analysing and casting sc2 for months? If idra and the zerg that "needs to be slapped" (such a dick comment, seriously) are such retards, then how does zerg scout that when the terran is walled off and has marines patrolling the edges of the base?


I don't even need to engage in an argument on zerg scouting. I'm talking about the argument day9 and Idra had ages ago, and yes, anyone saying "Idra won" is a blatant fanboy, because no serious argument took place to begin with, and they do need to get slapped.


Idra said that either zerg need to be able to scout (or deduct/eliminate builds), or they need a build that can react to all terran builds.
Day9 refused to accept that, without saying why. You must either hate Idra or love Day9 to not see that it wasnt Day9s proudest moment.

Idra's ideal game would be where terran can't put on any aggression of any form. The guy whined about terran in sc1 for christ's sake.


He played Terran.......

Yes, and he constantly whined about terran being underpowered. He's just a whiny guy.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2235
On November 01 2011 21:02 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 21:01 coReY425 wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:53 Dalavita wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:51 Alric wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:47 Dalavita wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:45 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Idra debated this issue with day9 on SOTG couple months ago, the issue was that a zerg can't scout because of marines on the edge of the base.. day9 lost the debate because he couldn't explain how a zerg could scout. Nestea vs SC today showed that Idra was actually correct.


That was a dumb analysis.

First of all, Day9 didn't lose because he didn't even partake in an actual discussion right then. His answer was that he'd need more information before he could definitively deduct anything.

Also, saying that one game showed something correct is laughable.

The only thing this game showed us that Nesteas OL was millimeters from scouting the starports because they were close to the edge, and he spotted the banshees very early but didn't react properly.

You need to be slapped.

Screw you, dick. Idra won the debate because day[9] knew he couldn't win and refused to engage. "Need more information", what the fuck? What more information do you need after professionally analysing and casting sc2 for months? If idra and the zerg that "needs to be slapped" (such a dick comment, seriously) are such retards, then how does zerg scout that when the terran is walled off and has marines patrolling the edges of the base?


I don't even need to engage in an argument on zerg scouting. I'm talking about the argument day9 and Idra had ages ago, and yes, anyone saying "Idra won" is a blatant fanboy, because no serious argument took place to begin with, and they do need to get slapped.


Idra said that either zerg need to be able to scout (or deduct/eliminate builds), or they need a build that can react to all terran builds.
Day9 refused to accept that, without saying why. You must either hate Idra or love Day9 to not see that it wasnt Day9s proudest moment.

Idra's ideal game would be where terran can't put on any aggression of any form. The guy whined about terran in sc1 for christ's sake.


In SC1 he played Terran and whined about Protoss dude (although it's Terran that is OP in SC1 ^^).
Khassar de Templari
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
November 01 2011 12:06 GMT
#2236
On November 01 2011 21:03 anrimayu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 21:01 msjakofsky wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:59 nOondn wrote:
Terran all in : disgusting
Zerg Baneling brust : beautiful

lol



some things work that way

think of it like

a hot marine chick with large boobs: beautiful
a powerful hydralisk female with large tentacles: disgusting

everything can't be equal


speak for yourself.

In my defense, I'm still in halloween mode.


well apples and oranges, but if you get horny looking at her
[image loading]

you have a condition there
annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
November 01 2011 12:07 GMT
#2237
On November 01 2011 21:05 Coal wrote:
Losira with a steel series green headset ? o.O Never seen anyone wear anything except the Banshee



yeah I was wondering that, for awhile I thought it was the razer orca, but yeah it's a green siberia

i wonder why.
Founder of the KiWiKaKi Fanclub: teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188537 my keyboard is like half broken. like terran. please ignore typos, thanks
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51392 Posts
November 01 2011 12:07 GMT
#2238
On November 01 2011 21:06 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 21:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 01 2011 21:03 annYeong(o11) wrote:
Also wasn't there a format in BW where there were 3 players and the first player to win 2 in a row advanced?

Not super sure on that, but I think I can remember a group stage gonig for a really, really long time like 6 or 7 sets


lol thats the tiebreaker on the OSL Ro16.

yes. and it was either 12 or 13 sets


oh yeah go.go,effort,shine tiebreaker..
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
November 01 2011 12:07 GMT
#2239
that hold.
Kira.Yami
Profile Joined April 2010
158 Posts
November 01 2011 12:07 GMT
#2240
I hope SC loses.
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