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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 16 2011 02:02 GMT
#9201
Korean Terrans, god damn. I literally jumped out of my seat and cheered when MarineKing beat Idra though <3.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 16 2011 02:02 GMT
#9202
Oh god is this Idra thing sill going on?
Yeah Idra lost a starcraft game, get over it.
Off-season = best season
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 02:04:13
October 16 2011 02:02 GMT
#9203
On October 16 2011 11:00 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:49 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:47 canikizu wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:37 Ksi wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:35 Badfatpanda wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him.




All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines.


thats why he had 4 cc and 57 workers at 15min after idra killed 30

You're right shit macro

....

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Did you not notice how he was floating 2k minerals at the end of the game because he didn't remember to make reactors or more barracks?

he did make reactors, he didn't make them early game to focus those gas on upgrade. That was why he was able to afford all the upgrades and still tech to tank, medivac at the same time.


So you're going to blantantly lie because Day9 showed all 8 or so barracks with no addon at all.

I'm gonna watch it again to make sure, but if he still didn't have it, i'm sure his gas was low, There's no way you can afford 3-3 bio upgrade 2-0 mech upgrade, have medivac, tank, even thor in 15 minutes.

The only thing you should complain about him is not having enough raxes.


he didn't have time to make reactors anyway because idra kept piling on the pressure

(btw. most pros flloat ridiculous amounts of ressources when they make important attacls, you're very nitpickingly silly, SC2 just isn't that evolved or maybe its just how it is even with MBS)

On October 16 2011 11:02 ZAiNs wrote:
Korean Terrans, god damn. I literally jumped out of my seat and cheered when MarineKing beat Idra though <3.


i kinda fistpumped yeah

well the evil guys got a winner in huk anyways so all is well for the cookie men

(also idra can still destroy his way back through the CB no?)
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 02:04:31
October 16 2011 02:03 GMT
#9204
When marines get +3/+3 and Zerg isn't on +3/+3, they just start to roll, especially when medivacs are around, and MKP had a lot of medivacs.

Even if IdrA had held that attack by MKP, MKP was able to trade so efficiently at that point that IdrA would've been ran dry either way. Eight marines with medivacs were able to hold off like 12 zerglings and 7-8 mutas without a problem - good trades for IdrA would've become almost impossible at that point.

By the point Terran hits +3/+3, Zerg should either have won, or have transitioned away from mutas and been running a mostly heavily upgraded ground-based army.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 16 2011 02:03 GMT
#9205
On October 16 2011 10:55 FryktSkyene wrote:
Is it worth it to buy the 4 stream thing? Hae you guys been able to see good games? Like top player games not just open bracket noobs.

Also, how much was it? It it's really worth I will be getting it for next MLG.

Thanks

Yes. 4 streams is absolutely outstanding. And no they aren't just streaming random noobs. It is mostly the best games that aren't on the red/blue stream. Totally worth buying a gold pass.

Gold pass is actually outstanding value. 30 bucks for a year. And you're going to get 4 streams at every MLG.
ThyHate
Profile Joined September 2011
240 Posts
October 16 2011 02:03 GMT
#9206
Wow, are some people complaining about Korean presence ?? On teamliquid ? ? ? Playing STARCRAFT 2 ? ? ? ?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 16 2011 02:03 GMT
#9207
On October 16 2011 11:01 karis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:58 corpsepose wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:56 youngminii wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:56 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:54 TooN wrote:
update on incontrol? still winless?

Pretty sure he went 0-5. Going up against Polt in the Championship Bracket, so he's going to get crushed. Not hating, I like Inc, but Polt is a TvP monster.

No, Polt is a TvT monster. Even so, he doesn't need to be a monster to beat Inc.


polt's tvp is statistically his highest matchup on tlpd korea... by a looong shot


especially if you take out his losses to killer who he seems to struggle with.


He barely lost to Killer with a build order loss and did two stupid hellion openers in his group stage.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
October 16 2011 02:03 GMT
#9208
wait what bomber had a tough time against machine?
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
Manslayer
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile150 Posts
October 16 2011 02:04 GMT
#9209
On October 16 2011 11:03 ThyHate wrote:
Wow, are some people complaining about Korean presence ?? On teamliquid ? ? ? Playing STARCRAFT 2 ? ? ? ?


no
No quote D:
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
October 16 2011 02:04 GMT
#9210
HE IS NADA!
Snitches get stiches
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 16 2011 02:04 GMT
#9211
I like this recap, its pretty epic
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
October 16 2011 02:04 GMT
#9212
Sorry if this has been asked before, but how come Naniwa and Select arent at this event?
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 16 2011 02:04 GMT
#9213
On October 16 2011 11:00 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:58 Courstice wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:52 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:50 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:48 Rebs wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Mordiford wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:
[quote]

Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time.


So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused...


No, he's explaining why MKP's macro looked poor.


It didn't look poor, it was poor, simple as that. MKP's own fault for getting his supply depots constantly picked off.



hahaa yea you know theres a fanboy in the house when the other players problems are self inflicted and the the guy he supports lost because Terran op lolol.


Yes I'm a fanboy of Idra's, doesn't change the fact that MKP played poorly and only won because of that last engage.


Your fanboism is clearly showing. Sure you may think that MKP played poor, but what matters is that Idra played worse. Suicide units 2-3 at a time into a tank line with medivacs and marines all around...

Yeah, MKP completely outplayed Idra that game.


Were you watching another game? completely outplay would be clearly having the upper hand the majority of the game and not sustaining much yourself. You are a step ahead. His win was due to idra's sloppiness towards the end and not maintaining upgrades.

That's just how it is with zerg, things can quickly go down the shitter. It's far less forgiving.


3/3 Marines > 1/1 Zerg. Just like 3/3 Zealots would > 1/1 Marauders. Simple.


I don't think marauders would actually even lose that if micro'd properly with conc.

Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:00 Rebs wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:59 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:57 minhbq299 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:50 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:48 Rebs wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Mordiford wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:
[quote]

Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time.


So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused...


No, he's explaining why MKP's macro looked poor.


It didn't look poor, it was poor, simple as that. MKP's own fault for getting his supply depots constantly picked off.



hahaa yea you know theres a fanboy in the house when the other players problems are self inflicted and the the guy he supports lost because Terran op lolol.


Yes I'm a fanboy of Idra's, doesn't change the fact that MKP played poorly and only won because of that last engage.


Point out how was MKP playing poorly, he defends well against a 3 base zerg(4th base have no drones) when MKP just take his 3rd. Idra lost because he invest in mass units to attack, have nothing to fall back on (hive tech, infestors, no upgrades) => that's why he lose when he cant finish MKP.

I will not comment on this match anymore but anyone who think idra is better player and MKP is not outplaying idra in that last game is delusional fanboyism and do not understand the game at all.


Read the quote road and theres my answer, been said numerous times. Anyway I said I wasn't responding anymore cause I'm just wasting my time at this point.


actually you were wasting your time from the start.


Agreed.



Zealots rape marauders so FUCKING HARD it's obscene, you have very limited game knowledge to believe otherwise, just contemplate Terran OP in your own home and save everyone time
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 16 2011 02:04 GMT
#9214
Will the championschip bracket round 2 be streamed today?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Makica
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada180 Posts
October 16 2011 02:04 GMT
#9215
On October 16 2011 11:01 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:58 Soulish wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:56 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:53 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:50 TazzDingo wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 Shurayuki wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 MCDayC wrote:
That's gonna go down as another amazing ZvT that Idra should have won.


and then the other guy was better and won instead?




Idra should have won it.


But then Marineking outplayed Idra and won it instead.

Today I learned: It's too hard for 90% on TL.net to understand that winning a match does not mean outplaying the opponent. Sheesh... First Huk-Hero, then IdrA-MKP... Unforced errors should not happen but they do happen sometimes. Has nothing to do with being outplayed... srsly guys.


outplayed. simple as that. poor engagements by idra, no upgrades. these are fundamental mistakes.


2-0 mutas 2-1 lings vs 3-3 marines. I count 5 upgrades for idra, 6 for mkp. Yea HUGE difference.

can't just add upgrades like that lol. Does 1/1 ling + 1/1 roach + 1/2 muta beat 3/3 marines?


I agree. 3/3 marines completely rape anything with lower upgrades, and equal upgrades even. My point is that Idra was keeping up with upgrades, he just has to split them between units while mkp didn't. So I think mkp's upgrades were far better, but it wasn't for lack of idra upgrading - it's because marines are absurd.


But he wasn't keeping up. You have to understand that 3-3 > 2-2 on all your units.
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
October 16 2011 02:04 GMT
#9216
On October 16 2011 11:04 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Will the championschip bracket round 2 be streamed today?


yes naruto stay awake if you wanna see stephano bro
YoloStar <3
halcyOn 2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States69 Posts
October 16 2011 02:04 GMT
#9217
Stephano coming to the main stage against Drewbie.
forza milan
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 16 2011 02:05 GMT
#9218
On October 16 2011 11:04 Dante08 wrote:
Sorry if this has been asked before, but how come Naniwa and Select arent at this event?

Have enough point for Nationals alrdy so just going for the small prize pool is meh I guess thats why
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
October 16 2011 02:05 GMT
#9219
Lol @ MLG saying bomber had it difficult vs machine!
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
October 16 2011 02:05 GMT
#9220
Is it done for today? It's 4am and I wanna know if I can go to sleep :p
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