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No player/caster bashing, or balance whining. Bans will be handed out like candy. (page 131)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2181
On October 15 2011 08:25 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:24 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:24 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:22 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'darim alter

In the bottom right is July

While in the bottom left is MC


1:50

Forge on the way for MC

Pool + gas for July


2:40

We have no idea what MC is doing but july is getting ling speed


4:00

Ok... MC going forge FE as july gets his own Natural


5:00

Cyber core on the way for MC and has both his gas now
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2182
rofl, nice one artosis
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
unsmart
Profile Joined April 2009
United States322 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2183
This isn't MC, it's a doppelganger.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2184
On October 15 2011 08:25 ZenithM wrote:
Is it cannon rushing 100% sure? It could be just anti 6 pool vs July?


Pretty sure it was the anti 6-8 pool. July is known to be a little cheesy and since he won game 1 he could have done it. I think thats why MC did that and would have cannon rushed had july hatch first.
When I think of something else, something will go here
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 23:27:24
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2185
On October 15 2011 08:24 SolidMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:21 gh0un wrote:
Anyone that believes that ghosts wont be nerfed in the near future, are just delusional.
They were never used against zerg and therefore forgotten about, but now more and more terrans go for ghost heavy compositions and they just demolish pretty much any composition zerg throws at terran.

The problem is, t1-t2 zerg cant really finish off a turtle terran, they need ultras or broodlords to siege terrans.
Ghosts kill zerg t3 extremely cost efficient (just watch darkforce vs mvp, mvp had like 50 ghosts and managed to kill a 200/200 zerg t3 army without losing many ghosts at all).
Ghosts force the zerg to go back to t1 units (zerglings), but we already know that t1 cant finish off a turtle terran.

I dont see how this is going to stay in the game much longer.


First off, please don't start balance whining here.

But seriously, ghosts are needed to fight lategame zerg. Nothing else can touch BL/Infestor. And ghosts are NOT cost efficient against ultras. It takes 11 snipes to kill one, aka at least 2 ghosts.

2 ghosts = 400/200
1 ultra = 300/200

If they have no support the ultras can kill them far faster than you can snipe them.


And once you have enough ghosts, they can kill an infinity amount of ultras without losing a single ghost.
Your reasoning doesnt make any sense, because ghosts cost 2 supply while ultras cost 6.

No ultras cant kill them because zerg shouldnt be able to see them. Ghosts can snipe the overseers easily, and infestors will either get emped or just sniped aswell.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2186
On October 15 2011 08:25 Ghrimnar wrote:
Thank got he canceled his cheese. Would have been the second epic fail in a row. Dont be too nervous Bosstoss. We believe in you no matter how tilted you are.


its not cheese, its to stop a 6 pool my friend
No Artosis, you are robin
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2187
Ret way ahead again, wow this match is swinging back and forth! so epic :D
Dead girls don't say no.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2188
On October 15 2011 08:24 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:24 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:22 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'darim alter

In the bottom right is July

While in the bottom left is MC


1:50

Forge on the way for MC

Pool + gas for July


2:40

We have no idea what MC is doing but july is getting ling speed


I salute you, sir, for your dedication to LR in general and this post in particular.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2189
On October 15 2011 08:26 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:25 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:24 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:24 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:22 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'darim alter

In the bottom right is July

While in the bottom left is MC


1:50

Forge on the way for MC

Pool + gas for July


2:40

We have no idea what MC is doing but july is getting ling speed


4:00

Ok... MC going forge FE as july gets his own Natural


5:00

Cyber core on the way for MC and has both his gas now


5:40

Warp gates on the way for MC as july gets his second gas
The.Imperator
Profile Joined October 2010
138 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2190
Artosis clearly doesn't play much nowdays.
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
October 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#2191
whitera, stephano, thestc, destiny, catz lots of fan favorites all in bracket 1 of the open bracket :/ Meanwhile bracket 3 has.. kawaiirice and spanishiwa and thats like it..
O well
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
October 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#2192
Wow HongUn vs Ret is pretty wild. HongUn had 17 void rays and now lost them all too mass fungal/corruptors.
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 23:28:11
October 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#2193
On October 15 2011 08:26 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:23 Heavenly wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:22 Zane wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:21 Heavenly wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:20 diophan wrote:
And people said Protoss was awful cause this guy couldn't stay in Code A... lol.


Yeah, because an accidental pylon block has anything to do with skill at the game instead of being an unfortunate misclick. People are being completely retarded.

How often do you see that at pro level?


How often do you see people destroying their own command center in a pro game? Is MMA garbage now that people should mock? Should we call Huk complete garbage because of how many games he's moved his sentries out a bit, lost all of them, and immediately lost afterward?

No, but i do expect those kind of huge mistakes to never happen or happen not as often as they do.


It happened once?

Looks like another all-in from July. Hydra nydus all in. pretty disappointing.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
October 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#2194
This thread is so hard to read. Nothing about MC's build was weird.

Just 'cause Tastosis says it doesn't make it so people.
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 23:28:11
October 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#2195
On October 15 2011 08:26 Zelniq wrote:
i cant believe tastosis dont realize that the pylon/forge placement is to combat the very common 6 or 7 pool on that map, which is extremely strong and dangerous for forge expos

Yeah, and it's july. The odds on a 6 pool have to be in the 80% range.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
sputnik.theory
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Poland449 Posts
October 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#2196
MC is not prioritizing probes very much this game -__-
“On the night of the murder I was at home, asleep. The characters in my dream can vouch for me.”
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#2197
On October 15 2011 08:26 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:26 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:25 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:24 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:24 Drazerk wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:22 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'darim alter

In the bottom right is July

While in the bottom left is MC


1:50

Forge on the way for MC

Pool + gas for July


2:40

We have no idea what MC is doing but july is getting ling speed


4:00

Ok... MC going forge FE as july gets his own Natural


5:00

Cyber core on the way for MC and has both his gas now


5:40

Warp gates on the way for MC as july gets his second gas


6:30

Stargate in production for MC as he takes both gasses at his natural

Lair on the way for July as he joins his bases with creep
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#2198
On October 15 2011 08:26 gh0un wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:24 SolidMoose wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:21 gh0un wrote:
Anyone that believes that ghosts wont be nerfed in the near future, are just delusional.
They were never used against zerg and therefore forgotten about, but now more and more terrans go for ghost heavy compositions and they just demolish pretty much any composition zerg throws at terran.

The problem is, t1-t2 zerg cant really finish off a turtle terran, they need ultras or broodlords to siege terrans.
Ghosts kill zerg t3 extremely cost efficient (just watch darkforce vs mvp, mvp had like 50 ghosts and managed to kill a 200/200 zerg t3 army without losing many ghosts at all).
Ghosts force the zerg to go back to t1 units (zerglings), but we already know that t1 cant finish off a turtle terran.

I dont see how this is going to stay in the game much longer.


First off, please don't start balance whining here.

But seriously, ghosts are needed to fight lategame zerg. Nothing else can touch BL/Infestor. And ghosts are NOT cost efficient against ultras. It takes 11 snipes to kill one, aka at least 2 ghosts.

2 ghosts = 400/200
1 ultra = 300/200

If they have no support the ultras can kill them far faster than you can snipe them.


And once you have enough ghosts, they can kill an infinity amount of ultras without losing a single ghost.
Your reasoning doesnt make any sense, because ghosts cost 2 supply while ultras cost 6.

No ultras cant kill them because zerg shouldnt be able to see them. Ghosts can snipe the overseers easily, and infestors will either get emped or just sniped aswell.


Take it PMs or to the Blizzard Forumsq
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
October 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#2199
Ret 2 HongUn 0 !!
Dead girls don't say no.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
October 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#2200
Updates: Ret 2-0 HongUn
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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