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On October 10 2011 03:24 Gnight wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:17 JWD wrote:
dApollo one of the few casters that obviously does research on players before he casts their matches (xHydrax on YT also comes to mind). mad respect! (why don't other casters do more of this??) Apollo has the advantage (I guess) that he isn't just a caster, but also actually a rather active progamer, which I think does give him a advantage on having such information ready (from experience), but also on gaining such information (he is in a proteam from which he most likely can draw alot of information from and has alot of contact through this with other progamers and perhaps "whole" teams). On top of that, he is rather new to the casting scene and I guess he knows his role as a caster, giving out insight not only of the tactical game from the progamers, but also in their history of matches, habits in that and alike. From there on out it's just him being a super, and cute, good boy that will do his homework. ^ ^ That is my general take on it and I love him for it as well. xD No idea if these advantages that I believe Apollo on this really is the reason why we don't see alot of other casters doing the same, just a theory.
It's got like almost nothing to do with being on a proteam, yes playing at a reasonably high level helps but that's not the reason he's able to know that MMA likes to do X in situation Y or Stephano does B in situation C. It's because he not only likes starcraft enough, but takes his job as a caster seriously enough to actually keep up and watch lots of events. There's no excuse for Doa to not know anything about how Stephano plays when coming to a tournament where he's heavily featured, just because he's in Korea. If Apollo can be aware of everything from euro tournaments to GSL to NASL/MLG, then someone who's meant to be a full time caster who only works like 3-4 days a week should be as up to date.
It's literally as simple as who bothers to put in the most effort.
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On October 10 2011 03:29 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:29 illsick wrote:On October 10 2011 03:25 Gotmog wrote:
Can Idra realistically take out Stc ? zvt is idra's best match up But that does not answer the question 
He beat Puma who is better so the answer is yes, he can.
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On October 10 2011 03:28 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:27 Andamanen wrote:
Somehow I didn't think Spanishiwa would look like that. Same lol. For some reason I expected a really 'white guy'.
I think he sounds black lol. 
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On October 10 2011 03:29 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:27 CeriseCherries wrote:On October 10 2011 03:25 GinDo wrote:On October 10 2011 03:18 Horseballs wrote:On October 10 2011 03:17 cilinder007 wrote:
people keep saying how good puma is in tvt, I havent seen him win a tvt yet :S He had really good TvT when he was on TSL... Foreign teams don't realize. Its not b/c they are Korean that makes them good. It the practice they get in Korea. Take that away and your gonna see a drop in skill. I was expecting a more even match. But that was pretty one-sided. Well its no that Puma is bad per se, but that MMA is freaking good. MMA is Code S and Puma is not, so although Puma is pretty damn good, MMA is pretty damn better. Yo GinDo (and other people talking about PuMa's practice), Incontrol said on SotG that at the EG house they usually play SC2 8 hours a day, and 12 hours a day right before big events. iNc also noted that PuMa continued to play with Koreans from the EG house. nobody here has presented any hard evidence that PuMa's practice regime was at all inferior while he was chez EG. Don't assume that someone is not keeping up on his practice just because he is outside Korea.
I would actually practice more or harder if I went to a different country where they pay me good and have high expectations !
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dat production quality. IPL3 <3
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How long do we have to wait before the next match ?
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On October 10 2011 03:30 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:29 ceaRshaf wrote:On October 10 2011 03:29 illsick wrote:On October 10 2011 03:25 Gotmog wrote:
Can Idra realistically take out Stc ? zvt is idra's best match up But that does not answer the question He beat Puma who is better so the answer is yes, he can.
Puma being better than TheStC is debatable especially in TvZ.
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On October 10 2011 03:29 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:27 CeriseCherries wrote:On October 10 2011 03:25 GinDo wrote:On October 10 2011 03:18 Horseballs wrote:On October 10 2011 03:17 cilinder007 wrote:
people keep saying how good puma is in tvt, I havent seen him win a tvt yet :S He had really good TvT when he was on TSL... Foreign teams don't realize. Its not b/c they are Korean that makes them good. It the practice they get in Korea. Take that away and your gonna see a drop in skill. I was expecting a more even match. But that was pretty one-sided. Well its no that Puma is bad per se, but that MMA is freaking good. MMA is Code S and Puma is not, so although Puma is pretty damn good, MMA is pretty damn better. Yo GinDo (and other people talking about PuMa's practice), Incontrol said on SotG that at the EG house they usually play SC2 8 hours a day, and 12 hours a day right before big events. iNc also noted that PuMa continued to play with Koreans from the EG house. nobody here has presented any hard evidence that PuMa's practice regime was at all inferior while he was chez EG. Don't assume that someone is not keeping up on his practice just because he is outside Korea.
What is wrong with you all? Puma is and was still in Korea the entire time. He only came to the EG house for MLG.
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On October 10 2011 03:27 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:25 Fyzar wrote:
I have to say, this might be the best tournament I have watched yet.
The interviews, the games (KiWi v Stephano mygooood), Anna & Rachel with actual good questions, great translations, Lani saving eSports, and just amazing filling of time.
Only downpoint I can think of is that I don't like some casters, but Apollo & WHEAT make up for that extremely well! Agree completely. Production is through the roof and after some awkward moments day 1 and 2 the interview/translation teams are killing it. This has been so enjoyable to watch. (+ I know I've mentioned them before, but these spots in between matches are really well done)
I agree. The only negative from me is the observing.
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On October 10 2011 03:29 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:27 CeriseCherries wrote:On October 10 2011 03:25 GinDo wrote:On October 10 2011 03:18 Horseballs wrote:On October 10 2011 03:17 cilinder007 wrote:
people keep saying how good puma is in tvt, I havent seen him win a tvt yet :S He had really good TvT when he was on TSL... Foreign teams don't realize. Its not b/c they are Korean that makes them good. It the practice they get in Korea. Take that away and your gonna see a drop in skill. I was expecting a more even match. But that was pretty one-sided. Well its no that Puma is bad per se, but that MMA is freaking good. MMA is Code S and Puma is not, so although Puma is pretty damn good, MMA is pretty damn better. Yo GinDo (and other people talking about PuMa's practice), Incontrol said on SotG that at the EG house they usually play SC2 8 hours a day, and 12 hours a day right before big events. iNc also noted that PuMa continued to play with Koreans from the EG house. nobody here has presented any hard evidence that PuMa's practice regime was at all inferior while he was chez EG. Don't assume that someone is not keeping up on his practice just because he is outside Korea.
But we can be sure that Korean practice environment cannot be replicated outside of Korea.
Isn't that why Huk and Naniwa are in Korea and Idra is going back?
If the quality of practice is the same why would any foreigner make that commitment?
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Spanishiwa and Deezer are the same age, what a night and day difference
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On October 10 2011 03:31 Jinsho wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:29 JWD wrote:On October 10 2011 03:27 CeriseCherries wrote:On October 10 2011 03:25 GinDo wrote:On October 10 2011 03:18 Horseballs wrote:On October 10 2011 03:17 cilinder007 wrote:
people keep saying how good puma is in tvt, I havent seen him win a tvt yet :S He had really good TvT when he was on TSL... Foreign teams don't realize. Its not b/c they are Korean that makes them good. It the practice they get in Korea. Take that away and your gonna see a drop in skill. I was expecting a more even match. But that was pretty one-sided. Well its no that Puma is bad per se, but that MMA is freaking good. MMA is Code S and Puma is not, so although Puma is pretty damn good, MMA is pretty damn better. Yo GinDo (and other people talking about PuMa's practice), Incontrol said on SotG that at the EG house they usually play SC2 8 hours a day, and 12 hours a day right before big events. iNc also noted that PuMa continued to play with Koreans from the EG house. nobody here has presented any hard evidence that PuMa's practice regime was at all inferior while he was chez EG. Don't assume that someone is not keeping up on his practice just because he is outside Korea. What is wrong with you all? Puma is and was still in Korea the entire time. He only came to the EG house for MLG.
word, good point (to be clear: I didn't mean to suggest otherwise in my post — note the was)
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On October 10 2011 03:29 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:29 illsick wrote:On October 10 2011 03:25 Gotmog wrote:
Can Idra realistically take out Stc ? zvt is idra's best match up But that does not answer the question
Idra is really good. When he doesn't get mad  . These early ggs are really silly. Play the game out, you never know when your opponent will make a mistake or where you can really pull ahead with strong play.
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On October 10 2011 03:29 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:29 illsick wrote:On October 10 2011 03:25 Gotmog wrote:
Can Idra realistically take out Stc ? zvt is idra's best match up But that does not answer the question
He can but StC is extremely good.
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Puma is a good Terran. Probably Top 10 in Korea. However, since he left TSL he's getting worse. He'll probably be Code A level.
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hahaha no offence but who is being called top 5 terran bullshit?? he is just another random terran in korea who is only good against foreigner. did u guys see what happened in mlg global invitational vs mvp?? even rain played a close series vs mvp in gsl. and today games mma outplayed him in every aspect
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how long to the next match? do they start on the hour?
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On October 10 2011 03:30 Killmouse wrote:
oh noes she has a bf ~
That's creepy man!
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On October 10 2011 03:29 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 03:27 CeriseCherries wrote:On October 10 2011 03:25 GinDo wrote:On October 10 2011 03:18 Horseballs wrote:On October 10 2011 03:17 cilinder007 wrote:
people keep saying how good puma is in tvt, I havent seen him win a tvt yet :S He had really good TvT when he was on TSL... Foreign teams don't realize. Its not b/c they are Korean that makes them good. It the practice they get in Korea. Take that away and your gonna see a drop in skill. I was expecting a more even match. But that was pretty one-sided. Well its no that Puma is bad per se, but that MMA is freaking good. MMA is Code S and Puma is not, so although Puma is pretty damn good, MMA is pretty damn better. Yo GinDo (and other people talking about PuMa's practice), Incontrol said on SotG that at the EG house they usually play SC2 8 hours a day, and 12 hours a day right before big events. iNc also noted that PuMa continued to play with Koreans from the EG house. nobody here has presented any hard evidence that PuMa's practice regime was at all inferior while he was chez EG. Don't assume that someone is not keeping up on his practice just because he is outside Korea.
so true. If MVP goes out of his way to practice with Puma to prepare for Bomber, I think Puma is doing ok.
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On October 10 2011 03:32 Project Psycho wrote:
how long to the next match? do they start on the hour?
should be about 5 minutes now, they said 10 minute break
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