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On October 24 2011 05:52 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:47 HappyChris wrote:On October 24 2011 05:44 how2TL wrote:On October 24 2011 05:37 HappyChris wrote:On October 24 2011 05:33 red4ce wrote:On October 24 2011 02:31 dsousa wrote:
I've been convinced for about a month that Stephano is the best zerg in the world, including Korea.
I don't see any other players that control their zerglings and roaches as effectively as Stephano. I don't know how he does it, but somehow he has mastered the art of not having lings running around not attacking. Watch him attack a siege line, he somehow separates his lings so that only the right amount surrounds the tanks and the rest carry on to attack the other units. Any other player I see do this, always has extra lings running circles around tanks and not attacking..... even Nestea last night vs MVP.
I would love to see him play a best of 7 vs MVP right now..... I would not be at all surpised if Stephano beat him.
This thread is ridiculous. In the last month Stephano beats MKP and a few code B Koreans while losing to Alive and Boxer, yet he's as good as Nestea who went 5-7 against MVP. Right. It seems like people have forgotten about Sen and Dimaga when talking about best foreign zergs. Too bad they had that Blizzcon thing to attend and couldn't be here to give Stephano a proper challenge. Yea, I agree Idra,Thorzain,MC,Sjow,Marineking,MaNa,Grubby,Nerchio isnt a prober challenge o.0 Say what? How is that in any way comparable to Code S? Its not but there is stil 2 code S players there. Players who has won GSL and place 2nd many times + the best foreigners in the world. Not an easy tournament to win Except it's less relevant listing all the players than who he actually beat... He has no one worthy of mentioning in his group, then he beat Axslav, Cloud, MKP, Mana. So the only one worthy of mentioning is MKP, whom just barely got back into Code S last season, and then not make it out of ro32. Add on to the fact that it was only a Bo3, and ZvT is Stephano's best MU, it definitely didn't deserve all the overhyping he got.
You can only beat the players put in front of you. He beat all the players that beat the players. Thats how a tournament works
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On October 24 2011 05:51 BBMorti wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:29 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 05:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Emphasis on the word "NA". Europeans have known who Stephano was for many months. Most of the ignorant "overhype" or "he came out of nowhere" statements are from Americans who didn't pay any attention to the EU scene. They should, it's without question better than the US right now, would anyone dispute that? 1) Many Americans knew who Stephano was since Home Story Cup, many others who are aware of the EU scene knew him even before then. 2) This overhyping came from French posters and Thorzain who says "SIGN ME UP FOR THE BEST FOREIGN ZERG!@!@" Although I admit the "out of nowhere" phrases came from alot of Americans. 3) Thanks for the generalizations, I won't be watching your shallow casting anymore from here on out. Then again shallow generalizations are your speciality it seems, whether it comes to your casting or your business style. Quoting for Irony, with emphasis on 'generalizations' .. Do not ask me to elaborate it is a pointless exercise if it is not smack in the face obvious what I mean. >_< Also, it must really suck to be French on this forum.. whatta hate they have to endure..
We are evil and we cheat in tournament, soon we'll rules the world *evil giggle*
The impression I have is that the Stephano 'overhype' often comes from EU and the hate often comes from NA. Even if more and more Na people seems to recognize him.
(oh and obviously Stephano is Better than nestea, he win more tournament in the last 3 month than him ... :D)
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On October 24 2011 05:33 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 02:31 dsousa wrote:
I've been convinced for about a month that Stephano is the best zerg in the world, including Korea.
I don't see any other players that control their zerglings and roaches as effectively as Stephano. I don't know how he does it, but somehow he has mastered the art of not having lings running around not attacking. Watch him attack a siege line, he somehow separates his lings so that only the right amount surrounds the tanks and the rest carry on to attack the other units. Any other player I see do this, always has extra lings running circles around tanks and not attacking..... even Nestea last night vs MVP.
I would love to see him play a best of 7 vs MVP right now..... I would not be at all surpised if Stephano beat him.
This thread is ridiculous. In the last month Stephano beats MKP and a few code B Koreans while losing to Alive and Boxer, yet he's as good as Nestea who went 5-7 against MVP. Right. It seems like people have forgotten about Sen and Dimaga when talking about best foreign zergs. Too bad they had that Blizzcon thing to attend and couldn't be here to give Stephano a proper challenge.
I would agree that Stephano isn't as good as Nestea now but he has great potential to be better then the top Koreans, that's for sure.
Taking his recent results (2 major wins in 2 weeks)
+ the pace that he is improving
+ enviroment that he practices in (not KR server)
+ actual time he puts into practice (supposed 4-5 hours a day )
, yeah... a clear potential for the best SC2 player
Imagine if he would practice for at least half a year in Korea like for 8 hours a day what he could do with that kind of talent...
MaNa is kind of in the same situation, although he's a lot more shaky...
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On October 24 2011 05:58 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:51 BBMorti wrote:On October 24 2011 05:29 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 05:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Emphasis on the word "NA". Europeans have known who Stephano was for many months. Most of the ignorant "overhype" or "he came out of nowhere" statements are from Americans who didn't pay any attention to the EU scene. They should, it's without question better than the US right now, would anyone dispute that? 1) Many Americans knew who Stephano was since Home Story Cup, many others who are aware of the EU scene knew him even before then. 2) This overhyping came from French posters and Thorzain who says "SIGN ME UP FOR THE BEST FOREIGN ZERG!@!@" Although I admit the "out of nowhere" phrases came from alot of Americans. 3) Thanks for the generalizations, I won't be watching your shallow casting anymore from here on out. Then again shallow generalizations are your speciality it seems, whether it comes to your casting or your business style. Quoting for Irony, with emphasis on 'generalizations' .. Do not ask me to elaborate it is a pointless exercise if it is not smack in the face obvious what I mean. >_< Also, it must really suck to be French on this forum.. whatta hate they have to endure.. We are evil and we cheat in tournament, soon we'll rules the world *evil giggle* The impression I have is that the Stephano 'overhype' often comes from EU and the hate often comes from NA. Even if more and more Na people seems to recognize him. (oh and obviously Stephano is Better than nestea, he win more tournament in the last 3 month than him ... :D)
Thanks for basically elaborating my point I was trying to make. I think much of the NA hate could be ascribed to the soured coL deal.
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On October 24 2011 05:49 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:37 HappyChris wrote:On October 24 2011 05:33 red4ce wrote:On October 24 2011 02:31 dsousa wrote:
I've been convinced for about a month that Stephano is the best zerg in the world, including Korea.
I don't see any other players that control their zerglings and roaches as effectively as Stephano. I don't know how he does it, but somehow he has mastered the art of not having lings running around not attacking. Watch him attack a siege line, he somehow separates his lings so that only the right amount surrounds the tanks and the rest carry on to attack the other units. Any other player I see do this, always has extra lings running circles around tanks and not attacking..... even Nestea last night vs MVP.
I would love to see him play a best of 7 vs MVP right now..... I would not be at all surpised if Stephano beat him.
This thread is ridiculous. In the last month Stephano beats MKP and a few code B Koreans while losing to Alive and Boxer, yet he's as good as Nestea who went 5-7 against MVP. Right. It seems like people have forgotten about Sen and Dimaga when talking about best foreign zergs. Too bad they had that Blizzcon thing to attend and couldn't be here to give Stephano a proper challenge. Yea, I agree Idra,Thorzain,MC,Sjow,Marineking,MaNa,Grubby,Nerchio isnt a prober challenge o.0 Say what? Yeah Stephano totally manhandled MC didn't he.
No, but he manhandled Marineking and won in the finals with MaNa, who 2-0'ed MC.
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I actually did attend the ESWC today and watched the 2nd MKP vs Stephano match and the Mana vs Stephano matches (sadly, due to confusing setup/etc I missed more) - but while I do think that the players may have noticed the casters and crowd cheer, they never gave an indication as to them actually acting up it - they were very focused on their games. Also I think that if they did hear it, Mana probably ignored it by then as there were constantly cheers for Stephano's play.
As for Stephano being amongst the best in the world, I think he may be - of course, he needs to actually keep on proving it now that he got some high profile wins and hopefully we can see him face off against some of the top Koreans and see how he fares then. He has a very greedy and aggressive playstyle which I think players like MVP, Nestea and the like would punish. But I do enjoy watching the Stephano games as he plays in a way that I find quite fun to watch.
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On October 24 2011 05:54 SabreUK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:49 red4ce wrote:On October 24 2011 05:37 HappyChris wrote:On October 24 2011 05:33 red4ce wrote:On October 24 2011 02:31 dsousa wrote:
I've been convinced for about a month that Stephano is the best zerg in the world, including Korea.
I don't see any other players that control their zerglings and roaches as effectively as Stephano. I don't know how he does it, but somehow he has mastered the art of not having lings running around not attacking. Watch him attack a siege line, he somehow separates his lings so that only the right amount surrounds the tanks and the rest carry on to attack the other units. Any other player I see do this, always has extra lings running circles around tanks and not attacking..... even Nestea last night vs MVP.
I would love to see him play a best of 7 vs MVP right now..... I would not be at all surpised if Stephano beat him.
This thread is ridiculous. In the last month Stephano beats MKP and a few code B Koreans while losing to Alive and Boxer, yet he's as good as Nestea who went 5-7 against MVP. Right. It seems like people have forgotten about Sen and Dimaga when talking about best foreign zergs. Too bad they had that Blizzcon thing to attend and couldn't be here to give Stephano a proper challenge. Yea, I agree Idra,Thorzain,MC,Sjow,Marineking,MaNa,Grubby,Nerchio isnt a prober challenge o.0 Say what? Yeah Stephano totally manhandled MC didn't he. but he manhandled MKP, one of the most consistent GSL players out there? (Albeit not a winner), whats your point?
And thus the reasonable claim to make about Stephano is that he's a code S calibur player, not that he's better than Nestea.
For the record I love MKP and think he's a great player, but I predicted Stephano beating him about 100 pages ago so don't think I'm unaware of Stephano's skill.
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On October 24 2011 06:00 forgottendreams wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:58 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:On October 24 2011 05:51 BBMorti wrote:On October 24 2011 05:29 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 05:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Emphasis on the word "NA". Europeans have known who Stephano was for many months. Most of the ignorant "overhype" or "he came out of nowhere" statements are from Americans who didn't pay any attention to the EU scene. They should, it's without question better than the US right now, would anyone dispute that? 1) Many Americans knew who Stephano was since Home Story Cup, many others who are aware of the EU scene knew him even before then. 2) This overhyping came from French posters and Thorzain who says "SIGN ME UP FOR THE BEST FOREIGN ZERG!@!@" Although I admit the "out of nowhere" phrases came from alot of Americans. 3) Thanks for the generalizations, I won't be watching your shallow casting anymore from here on out. Then again shallow generalizations are your speciality it seems, whether it comes to your casting or your business style. Quoting for Irony, with emphasis on 'generalizations' .. Do not ask me to elaborate it is a pointless exercise if it is not smack in the face obvious what I mean. >_< Also, it must really suck to be French on this forum.. whatta hate they have to endure.. We are evil and we cheat in tournament, soon we'll rules the world *evil giggle* The impression I have is that the Stephano 'overhype' often comes from EU and the hate often comes from NA. Even if more and more Na people seems to recognize him. (oh and obviously Stephano is Better than nestea, he win more tournament in the last 3 month than him ... :D) Thanks for basically elaborating my point I was trying to make. I think much of the NA hate could be ascribed to the soured coL deal.
why would the CoL issue matter when col (AND stephano) both lied to millennium >:>
they said they were negotiating for weeks and later admitted they contacted stephano in the middle of the night without milleniums notice lol..
this stephano hate from is just an issue of butthurt americans that can't accept you're scene is bad compared to Europe and every skepticism you had towards stephano has been proving wrong and you can't swallow that.
oh, he's french so more hate amirite, lol?
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I'll feed the trolls.
I think Stephano has a better future ahead of him in SC2 than Nestea. Nestea might still be better than him currently, but I think Stephano's at least close to Nestea's level and has more upside.
Flame me all you want, but I'll remind you about it in a year :D
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On October 24 2011 05:29 forgottendreams wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Emphasis on the word "NA". Europeans have known who Stephano was for many months. Most of the ignorant "overhype" or "he came out of nowhere" statements are from Americans who didn't pay any attention to the EU scene. They should, it's without question better than the US right now, would anyone dispute that? 1) Many Americans knew who Stephano was since Home Story Cup, many others who are aware of the EU scene knew him even before then. 2) This overhyping came from French posters and Thorzain who says "SIGN ME UP FOR THE BEST FOREIGN ZERG!@!@" Although I admit the "out of nowhere" phrases came from alot of Americans. 3) Thanks for the generalizations, I won't be watching your shallow casting anymore from here on out. Then again shallow generalizations are your speciality it seems, whether it comes to your casting or your business style.
Oh please, cry some more. Another generalisation that seems to come true very often, Americans are easily offended. An eagle doesn't cry everytime somebody says your country isn't #1 in everything.
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On October 24 2011 06:07 WaSa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 06:00 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 05:58 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:On October 24 2011 05:51 BBMorti wrote:On October 24 2011 05:29 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 05:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Emphasis on the word "NA". Europeans have known who Stephano was for many months. Most of the ignorant "overhype" or "he came out of nowhere" statements are from Americans who didn't pay any attention to the EU scene. They should, it's without question better than the US right now, would anyone dispute that? 1) Many Americans knew who Stephano was since Home Story Cup, many others who are aware of the EU scene knew him even before then. 2) This overhyping came from French posters and Thorzain who says "SIGN ME UP FOR THE BEST FOREIGN ZERG!@!@" Although I admit the "out of nowhere" phrases came from alot of Americans. 3) Thanks for the generalizations, I won't be watching your shallow casting anymore from here on out. Then again shallow generalizations are your speciality it seems, whether it comes to your casting or your business style. Quoting for Irony, with emphasis on 'generalizations' .. Do not ask me to elaborate it is a pointless exercise if it is not smack in the face obvious what I mean. >_< Also, it must really suck to be French on this forum.. whatta hate they have to endure.. We are evil and we cheat in tournament, soon we'll rules the world *evil giggle* The impression I have is that the Stephano 'overhype' often comes from EU and the hate often comes from NA. Even if more and more Na people seems to recognize him. (oh and obviously Stephano is Better than nestea, he win more tournament in the last 3 month than him ... :D) Thanks for basically elaborating my point I was trying to make. I think much of the NA hate could be ascribed to the soured coL deal. why would the CoL issue matter when col (AND stephano) both lied to millennium >:> they said they were negotiating for weeks and later admitted they contacted stephano in the middle of the night without milleniums notice lol.. this stephano hate from is just an issue of butthurt americans that can't accept you're scene is bad compared to Europe and every skepticism you had towards stephano has been proving wrong and you can't swallow that.oh, he's french so more hate amirite, lol?
I won't even take the time to refute such a childish post. Your hubris just makes you look stupid.
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Stephano will disappear in about a month just watch hahaha
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On October 24 2011 06:11 Fleshy wrote:
Stephano will disappear in about a month just watch hahaha
Ill take that bet hehe.
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On October 24 2011 06:11 Fleshy wrote:
Stephano will disappear in about a month just watch hahaha
That might actually be the smartest move ever.... show up... win 60k in a month, then never play again!!!
The LEGEND would live forever!
All jokes aside, Stephano is great for SC2 because he still has the chance to do that. He can be the first foreigner to goto Korea and just kick butt right off the bat.... he's not been broken yet like the others... he still believes and doesn't fear anyone, whereas it seems all the other major foreign stars lose their swagger a bit after being beaten down by Koreans.
Probably Stephano will take a step back at some point... but he hasn't yet....
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On October 24 2011 05:29 forgottendreams wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Emphasis on the word "NA". Europeans have known who Stephano was for many months. Most of the ignorant "overhype" or "he came out of nowhere" statements are from Americans who didn't pay any attention to the EU scene. They should, it's without question better than the US right now, would anyone dispute that? 1) Many Americans knew who Stephano was since Home Story Cup, many others who are aware of the EU scene knew him even before then. 2) This overhyping came from French posters and Thorzain who says "SIGN ME UP FOR THE BEST FOREIGN ZERG!@!@" Although I admit the "out of nowhere" phrases came from alot of Americans. 3) Thanks for the generalizations, I won't be watching your shallow casting anymore from here on out. Then again shallow generalizations are your speciality it seems, whether it comes to your casting or your business style.
I too pay attention from which country the posters come.
And I actually came to the conclussion that from all the European countrys the French are most critical about Stephano.
They absolutely dont overhype him.
Please explain how you came to that conclusion.
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Stephano
Thorzain
Huk
Nestea
MVP
Dunno who the best Korean Protoss is at the moment.
I feel these are the current top of their respective races in their regions.
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On October 24 2011 06:10 forgottendreams wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 06:07 WaSa wrote:On October 24 2011 06:00 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 05:58 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:On October 24 2011 05:51 BBMorti wrote:On October 24 2011 05:29 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 05:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Emphasis on the word "NA". Europeans have known who Stephano was for many months. Most of the ignorant "overhype" or "he came out of nowhere" statements are from Americans who didn't pay any attention to the EU scene. They should, it's without question better than the US right now, would anyone dispute that? 1) Many Americans knew who Stephano was since Home Story Cup, many others who are aware of the EU scene knew him even before then. 2) This overhyping came from French posters and Thorzain who says "SIGN ME UP FOR THE BEST FOREIGN ZERG!@!@" Although I admit the "out of nowhere" phrases came from alot of Americans. 3) Thanks for the generalizations, I won't be watching your shallow casting anymore from here on out. Then again shallow generalizations are your speciality it seems, whether it comes to your casting or your business style. Quoting for Irony, with emphasis on 'generalizations' .. Do not ask me to elaborate it is a pointless exercise if it is not smack in the face obvious what I mean. >_< Also, it must really suck to be French on this forum.. whatta hate they have to endure.. We are evil and we cheat in tournament, soon we'll rules the world *evil giggle* The impression I have is that the Stephano 'overhype' often comes from EU and the hate often comes from NA. Even if more and more Na people seems to recognize him. (oh and obviously Stephano is Better than nestea, he win more tournament in the last 3 month than him ... :D) Thanks for basically elaborating my point I was trying to make. I think much of the NA hate could be ascribed to the soured coL deal. why would the CoL issue matter when col (AND stephano) both lied to millennium >:> they said they were negotiating for weeks and later admitted they contacted stephano in the middle of the night without milleniums notice lol.. this stephano hate from is just an issue of butthurt americans that can't accept you're scene is bad compared to Europe and every skepticism you had towards stephano has been proving wrong and you can't swallow that.oh, he's french so more hate amirite, lol? I won't even take the time to refute such a childish post. Your hubris just makes you look stupid.
hubris or not, it's true and you know it :p
note that while I'm a fan of stephano I don't believe a second he's on par with Nestea and such lol. There are a few diehard fanboys and other ignorant posters that actually believe so but most posts I see are just trolls baiting people to respond to their ridiculous claims like "Stephano>Nestea" etc. As a consequence 30 people respond with equally ridiculous claims like "he was lucky, opponent didn't take it seriously and/or is bad" etc.
that's why I'm respoding to this. Can we just stop this stupid fanboyism and retarded hate?
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On October 24 2011 05:49 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:37 HappyChris wrote:On October 24 2011 05:33 red4ce wrote:On October 24 2011 02:31 dsousa wrote:
I've been convinced for about a month that Stephano is the best zerg in the world, including Korea.
I don't see any other players that control their zerglings and roaches as effectively as Stephano. I don't know how he does it, but somehow he has mastered the art of not having lings running around not attacking. Watch him attack a siege line, he somehow separates his lings so that only the right amount surrounds the tanks and the rest carry on to attack the other units. Any other player I see do this, always has extra lings running circles around tanks and not attacking..... even Nestea last night vs MVP.
I would love to see him play a best of 7 vs MVP right now..... I would not be at all surpised if Stephano beat him.
This thread is ridiculous. In the last month Stephano beats MKP and a few code B Koreans while losing to Alive and Boxer, yet he's as good as Nestea who went 5-7 against MVP. Right. It seems like people have forgotten about Sen and Dimaga when talking about best foreign zergs. Too bad they had that Blizzcon thing to attend and couldn't be here to give Stephano a proper challenge. Yea, I agree Idra,Thorzain,MC,Sjow,Marineking,MaNa,Grubby,Nerchio isnt a prober challenge o.0 Say what? Yeah Stephano totally manhandled MC didn't he.
Don't be an ass, he was comparing the ESWC player list to the BLIZZCON player list. Not his list of opponents.
Beat MKP and a few Code B?
Ok here's the list.
IPL3 quali #2 :
 Stephano 2-0  anypro
2-1  MKP
1-2 aLive LOSS
IPL3 quali #3
2-1 RevivaL
2-0 Puzzle
2-1 MMA
IPL3
2-0 HuK (listing cause he's code S)
2-0 BoxeR
0-2 aLive (playing Mass lings fooling around, total bullshit games to hide strats, he SaiD it himself, Check the vods) LOSS
2-0 viOlet
2-1 Inori
3-1 TheStC
4-0 Lucky
MLG
0-2 TheStC LOSS
1-2 BoxeR LOSS
ESWC
2-0 MKP
Total : 29-13 , 27-13 if you remove HuK.
Against October Code S players, it is : 10-5 (8-5 without HuK) (and 4-1 against Code A)
I mean, how many koreans even post a 66% win record against Code S players ? MVP, NesTea, and that's all ?
Could you just stop being an ass ? Of course he isn't gonna get a 100% win ratio against koreans, nobody can, even NesTea or MVP. Not saying he's at their level obviously, but still, just look at the numbers and STOP BEING AN ASS.
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On October 24 2011 05:29 forgottendreams wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Emphasis on the word "NA". Europeans have known who Stephano was for many months. Most of the ignorant "overhype" or "he came out of nowhere" statements are from Americans who didn't pay any attention to the EU scene. They should, it's without question better than the US right now, would anyone dispute that? 1) Many Americans knew who Stephano was since Home Story Cup, many others who are aware of the EU scene knew him even before then. 2) This overhyping came from French posters and Thorzain who says "SIGN ME UP FOR THE BEST FOREIGN ZERG!@!@" Although I admit the "out of nowhere" phrases came from alot of Americans. 3) Thanks for the generalizations, I won't be watching your shallow casting anymore from here on out. Then again shallow generalizations are your speciality it seems, whether it comes to your casting or your business style.
actually there was no generalization there, just your inability to comprehend your native language
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On October 24 2011 06:16 WaSa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 06:10 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 06:07 WaSa wrote:On October 24 2011 06:00 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 05:58 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:On October 24 2011 05:51 BBMorti wrote:On October 24 2011 05:29 forgottendreams wrote:On October 24 2011 05:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Emphasis on the word "NA". Europeans have known who Stephano was for many months. Most of the ignorant "overhype" or "he came out of nowhere" statements are from Americans who didn't pay any attention to the EU scene. They should, it's without question better than the US right now, would anyone dispute that? 1) Many Americans knew who Stephano was since Home Story Cup, many others who are aware of the EU scene knew him even before then. 2) This overhyping came from French posters and Thorzain who says "SIGN ME UP FOR THE BEST FOREIGN ZERG!@!@" Although I admit the "out of nowhere" phrases came from alot of Americans. 3) Thanks for the generalizations, I won't be watching your shallow casting anymore from here on out. Then again shallow generalizations are your speciality it seems, whether it comes to your casting or your business style. Quoting for Irony, with emphasis on 'generalizations' .. Do not ask me to elaborate it is a pointless exercise if it is not smack in the face obvious what I mean. >_< Also, it must really suck to be French on this forum.. whatta hate they have to endure.. We are evil and we cheat in tournament, soon we'll rules the world *evil giggle* The impression I have is that the Stephano 'overhype' often comes from EU and the hate often comes from NA. Even if more and more Na people seems to recognize him. (oh and obviously Stephano is Better than nestea, he win more tournament in the last 3 month than him ... :D) Thanks for basically elaborating my point I was trying to make. I think much of the NA hate could be ascribed to the soured coL deal. why would the CoL issue matter when col (AND stephano) both lied to millennium >:> they said they were negotiating for weeks and later admitted they contacted stephano in the middle of the night without milleniums notice lol.. this stephano hate from is just an issue of butthurt americans that can't accept you're scene is bad compared to Europe and every skepticism you had towards stephano has been proving wrong and you can't swallow that.oh, he's french so more hate amirite, lol? I won't even take the time to refute such a childish post. Your hubris just makes you look stupid. hubris or not, it's true and you know it :p note that while I'm a fan of stephano I don't believe a second he's on par with Nestea and such lol. There are a few diehard fanboys and other ignorant posters that actually believe so but most posts I see are just trolls baiting people to respond to their ridiculous claims like "Stephano>Nestea" etc. As a consequence 30 people respond with equally ridiculous claims like "he was lucky, opponent didn't take it seriously and/or is bad" etc. that's why I'm respoding to this. Can we just stop this stupid fanboyism and retarded hate?
Maybe you should be the first to stop. If you really want to get into why your statement may be untrue explain why the only foreigner in Code S is a Canadian-American and Idra continues to place well, even above many other foreigners.
The place to stop being a stupid fanboy can be you, because the NA scene is perfectly strong.
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