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pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
October 22 2011 14:11 GMT
#2881
On October 22 2011 23:09 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:09 Otori wrote:
Is there a loser bracket in this tournament or is thorzain out?


thorzain out, such is the hilarity of bo3 single elim

Single elimination tournament is like playing on hardcore mode in diablo 2. It's not for little girls and pregnant women.
VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 22 2011 14:11 GMT
#2882
On October 22 2011 23:11 VegaNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:10 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:09 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:08 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:07 VegaNZ wrote:
7:00 MC expands, has immortal and observer on the way. Mana adding 2 gates


(LR virgin)

8:00 Mana on 5 gates, MC with a 3 probe advantage. Both players adding Immortals


9:00 TC finishes for MC - starts blink. TC on the way for Mana who's still building immortals


10:00 MC trying to snipe Mana's observer, but Mana is wise to it. MC's blink finishing up, supply count 76 for both players.


11:00 Robo bay on the way for MC, shortly followed by a robo bay for Mana. First engagment about to happen


13:00 MC snipes Mana's sentries, MC wins the first engagement up 10 supply. MC moving around the map.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 14:12:39
October 22 2011 14:12 GMT
#2883
On October 22 2011 23:11 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:07 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:05 AxionSteel wrote:
It depends what you mean by A-Team, Grubby might not be top 3 protoss in EU, but he's still a top european player. Europe has a lot more depth than NA.

A-team would be the top10 in any particular region, no? I mean, how big are your teams O_o


So when you look at Europe, you have Mana, nerchio, stephano, thorzain, naniwa, jinro, sjow, sase, hasuobs, socke, dimaga, morrow, Kas, White Ra, Strelok etc etc, that's far more than 10, and there's many more, I don't think you can say there's only ten A team players in Europe. I'd rather rank by tiers, all of them are top European players, and I'd put Grubby and Cloud as a top tier European player as well. 2nd Tier would probably include LiveZerg, though.


I just wouldn't put Grubby/Cloud on the same level as Whitera/Thorzain at all, and if they are, they haven't shown it in terms of results.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
October 22 2011 14:12 GMT
#2884
Anyone else stream lagging every 3-5seconds?
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 22 2011 14:13 GMT
#2885
On October 22 2011 23:11 VegaNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:11 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:10 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:09 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:08 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:07 VegaNZ wrote:
7:00 MC expands, has immortal and observer on the way. Mana adding 2 gates


(LR virgin)

8:00 Mana on 5 gates, MC with a 3 probe advantage. Both players adding Immortals


9:00 TC finishes for MC - starts blink. TC on the way for Mana who's still building immortals


10:00 MC trying to snipe Mana's observer, but Mana is wise to it. MC's blink finishing up, supply count 76 for both players.


11:00 Robo bay on the way for MC, shortly followed by a robo bay for Mana. First engagment about to happen


13:00 MC snipes Mana's sentries, MC wins the first engagement up 10 supply. MC moving around the map.


14:00 - MC takes a third, Mana is catching up the supply difference. MC's thermal lance finishing just as Mana's start. Both adding a second Robo, but MC's is ahead. MC also adding a forge. Both players passive for the moment.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 22 2011 14:13 GMT
#2886
On October 22 2011 23:12 Mithriel wrote:
Anyone else stream lagging every 3-5seconds?


Working fine under heavy network usage here.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 14:13:47
October 22 2011 14:13 GMT
#2887
I'm so bummed we won't see Thorzain vs. Stephano, I really wanted to see that. /sigh

And what's up with the laggy stream?
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
October 22 2011 14:13 GMT
#2888
On October 22 2011 23:12 Mithriel wrote:
Anyone else stream lagging every 3-5seconds?


yeah, it's kind of collapsed when they started getting blink
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 22 2011 14:13 GMT
#2889
On October 22 2011 23:12 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:07 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:05 AxionSteel wrote:
It depends what you mean by A-Team, Grubby might not be top 3 protoss in EU, but he's still a top european player. Europe has a lot more depth than NA.

A-team would be the top10 in any particular region, no? I mean, how big are your teams O_o


So when you look at Europe, you have Mana, nerchio, stephano, thorzain, naniwa, jinro, sjow, sase, hasuobs, socke, dimaga, morrow, Kas, White Ra, Strelok etc etc, that's far more than 10, and there's many more, I don't think you can say there's only ten A team players in Europe. I'd rather rank by tiers, all of them are top European players, and I'd put Grubby and Cloud as a top tier European player as well. 2nd Tier would probably include LiveZerg, though.


I just wouldn't put Grubby/Cloud on the same level as Whitera/Thorzain at all, and if they are, they haven't shown it in terms of results.


Hard to play with a broken arm-_______-
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
October 22 2011 14:13 GMT
#2890
Yeah...like they said MaNa is basically doing what MC is doing only a minute behind lol.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 22 2011 14:13 GMT
#2891
On October 22 2011 23:12 Mithriel wrote:
Anyone else stream lagging every 3-5seconds?

Vin Doasel works fine, TB lags from time to time for me.
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
October 22 2011 14:14 GMT
#2892
MC going for dual colossus production.
VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 22 2011 14:14 GMT
#2893
On October 22 2011 23:13 VegaNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:11 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:11 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:10 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:09 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:08 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:07 VegaNZ wrote:
7:00 MC expands, has immortal and observer on the way. Mana adding 2 gates


(LR virgin)

8:00 Mana on 5 gates, MC with a 3 probe advantage. Both players adding Immortals


9:00 TC finishes for MC - starts blink. TC on the way for Mana who's still building immortals


10:00 MC trying to snipe Mana's observer, but Mana is wise to it. MC's blink finishing up, supply count 76 for both players.


11:00 Robo bay on the way for MC, shortly followed by a robo bay for Mana. First engagment about to happen


13:00 MC snipes Mana's sentries, MC wins the first engagement up 10 supply. MC moving around the map.


14:00 - MC takes a third, Mana is catching up the supply difference. MC's thermal lance finishing just as Mana's start. Both adding a second Robo, but MC's is ahead. MC also adding a forge. Both players passive for the moment.


16:00 - Mana puts down a third, but MC's +1 well on the way as Mana's forge is just finishing up. MC has a 2 collosi advantage, very similar numbers on other units
F u r u y a
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil173 Posts
October 22 2011 14:14 GMT
#2894
holy boringness that mc vs mana g1.
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
October 22 2011 14:14 GMT
#2895
On October 22 2011 23:12 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:07 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:05 AxionSteel wrote:
It depends what you mean by A-Team, Grubby might not be top 3 protoss in EU, but he's still a top european player. Europe has a lot more depth than NA.

A-team would be the top10 in any particular region, no? I mean, how big are your teams O_o


So when you look at Europe, you have Mana, nerchio, stephano, thorzain, naniwa, jinro, sjow, sase, hasuobs, socke, dimaga, morrow, Kas, White Ra, Strelok etc etc, that's far more than 10, and there's many more, I don't think you can say there's only ten A team players in Europe. I'd rather rank by tiers, all of them are top European players, and I'd put Grubby and Cloud as a top tier European player as well. 2nd Tier would probably include LiveZerg, though.


I just wouldn't put Grubby/Cloud on the same level as Whitera/Thorzain at all, and if they are, they haven't shown it in terms of results.

That is because you don't follow the Players close enough and only look at statistics.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 14:15:34
October 22 2011 14:14 GMT
#2896
On October 22 2011 23:12 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:07 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:05 AxionSteel wrote:
It depends what you mean by A-Team, Grubby might not be top 3 protoss in EU, but he's still a top european player. Europe has a lot more depth than NA.

A-team would be the top10 in any particular region, no? I mean, how big are your teams O_o


So when you look at Europe, you have Mana, nerchio, stephano, thorzain, naniwa, jinro, sjow, sase, hasuobs, socke, dimaga, morrow, Kas, White Ra, Strelok etc etc, that's far more than 10, and there's many more, I don't think you can say there's only ten A team players in Europe. I'd rather rank by tiers, all of them are top European players, and I'd put Grubby and Cloud as a top tier European player as well. 2nd Tier would probably include LiveZerg, though.


I just wouldn't put Grubby/Cloud on the same level as Whitera/Thorzain at all, and if they are, they haven't shown it in terms of results.

Perhaps ClouD is overall not on the level of ThorZaIN, but TvT wise ClouD is better.

Grubby would be the second tier of protosses at the moment I THINK, behind Nani/Sase/MaNa, but he can beat all of them. Don't really know that for certain, seeing as we haven't seen too much of him since he went to Korea.

Also, results are not everything, and White-Ra doesn't have that great results either.
It appears I have been chosen.
VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 22 2011 14:14 GMT
#2897
On October 22 2011 23:14 VegaNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:13 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:11 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:11 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:10 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:09 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:08 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:07 VegaNZ wrote:
7:00 MC expands, has immortal and observer on the way. Mana adding 2 gates


(LR virgin)

8:00 Mana on 5 gates, MC with a 3 probe advantage. Both players adding Immortals


9:00 TC finishes for MC - starts blink. TC on the way for Mana who's still building immortals


10:00 MC trying to snipe Mana's observer, but Mana is wise to it. MC's blink finishing up, supply count 76 for both players.


11:00 Robo bay on the way for MC, shortly followed by a robo bay for Mana. First engagment about to happen


13:00 MC snipes Mana's sentries, MC wins the first engagement up 10 supply. MC moving around the map.


14:00 - MC takes a third, Mana is catching up the supply difference. MC's thermal lance finishing just as Mana's start. Both adding a second Robo, but MC's is ahead. MC also adding a forge. Both players passive for the moment.


16:00 - Mana puts down a third, but MC's +1 well on the way as Mana's forge is just finishing up. MC has a 2 collosi advantage, very similar numbers on other units


17:00 - Mana with a nice blink into MC's base, get's a pylon and gets away. No real damage done.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 22 2011 14:15 GMT
#2898
Mana owned him pretty hard in that fight
VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 22 2011 14:15 GMT
#2899
On October 22 2011 23:14 VegaNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:14 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:13 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:11 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:11 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:10 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:09 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:08 VegaNZ wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:07 VegaNZ wrote:
7:00 MC expands, has immortal and observer on the way. Mana adding 2 gates


(LR virgin)

8:00 Mana on 5 gates, MC with a 3 probe advantage. Both players adding Immortals


9:00 TC finishes for MC - starts blink. TC on the way for Mana who's still building immortals


10:00 MC trying to snipe Mana's observer, but Mana is wise to it. MC's blink finishing up, supply count 76 for both players.


11:00 Robo bay on the way for MC, shortly followed by a robo bay for Mana. First engagment about to happen


13:00 MC snipes Mana's sentries, MC wins the first engagement up 10 supply. MC moving around the map.


14:00 - MC takes a third, Mana is catching up the supply difference. MC's thermal lance finishing just as Mana's start. Both adding a second Robo, but MC's is ahead. MC also adding a forge. Both players passive for the moment.


16:00 - Mana puts down a third, but MC's +1 well on the way as Mana's forge is just finishing up. MC has a 2 collosi advantage, very similar numbers on other units


17:00 - Mana with a nice blink into MC's base, get's a pylon and gets away. No real damage done.


18:30 - Both armies posturing in the middle of the map and engage. MC's collosi out of position, and Mana taking a big lead!!!!! MC in big trouble now.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 22 2011 14:15 GMT
#2900
MAAAANANANANANANNAAAAAA

Wowow, caught MC so out of position.
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