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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
October 22 2011 14:17 GMT
#2921
Dear Blizzard... Bring back the 4gate please....

Gooo MaNa!
Poisonblack
Profile Joined May 2011
452 Posts
October 22 2011 14:17 GMT
#2922
pvp is pretty much a coin toss lol
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 22 2011 14:17 GMT
#2923
MC failed on positioning there.

Nice win for Mana. He was behind the whole game but that one engagement won it.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
October 22 2011 14:17 GMT
#2924
Positioning - it matters
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#2925
Getting adverts 4 times in a row. But FUCK YEAH MANA!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#2926
On October 22 2011 23:17 Azarkon wrote:
MC failed on positioning there.

Nice win for Mana. He was behind the whole game but that one engagement won it.

he stopped being behind when he killed robo
Stork[gm]
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#2927
On October 22 2011 23:11 pred470r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:09 sixfour wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:09 Otori wrote:
Is there a loser bracket in this tournament or is thorzain out?


thorzain out, such is the hilarity of bo3 single elim

Single elimination tournament is like playing on hardcore mode in diablo 2. It's not for little girls and pregnant women.


<3

I like it. Winners advance and losers are out. No fluff.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
October 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#2928
Tbh these war of worlds fights are more boring than 4gate vs 4gate:o
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#2929
lol Stephano
CutthroatCollapse
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany309 Posts
October 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#2930
On October 22 2011 23:17 Poisonblack wrote:
pvp is pretty much a coin toss lol


haha, a good one
I tink, MC so sterong
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
October 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#2931
Was mana ahead on upgrades as well? If so, perhaps we see double forge mass gateway builds going up in pvp in the future lol.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 22 2011 14:19 GMT
#2932
On October 22 2011 23:18 poorcloud wrote:
Was mana ahead on upgrades as well? If so, perhaps we see double forge mass gateway builds going up in pvp in the future lol.

both were 1-0 during the fight
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
October 22 2011 14:19 GMT
#2933
On October 22 2011 23:18 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:17 Azarkon wrote:
MC failed on positioning there.

Nice win for Mana. He was behind the whole game but that one engagement won it.

he stopped being behind when he killed robo


he still was slightly behind in almost every regard.

MaNa won cause of MC's positioning only, but well thats what happens in pvp. And the advantage MC had was about 30 seconds @ upgrades and eco
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 22 2011 14:19 GMT
#2934
On October 22 2011 23:18 Morale wrote:
Tbh these war of worlds fights are more boring than 4gate vs 4gate:o

The colossus has an amazing ability to make any engagement boring as shit =(
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
MGN
Profile Joined June 2011
France383 Posts
October 22 2011 14:19 GMT
#2935
lol @ stephano
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 22 2011 14:19 GMT
#2936
On October 22 2011 23:06 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:04 o)_Saurus wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:02 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:00 Baituri wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:58 xCenasfu wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:56 Jehct wrote:
What a crazy tournament. Idra, Nerchio & Thorzain out while Livezerg, Grubby & Cloud in - it's like the European B-teamers strike back O_o


I think its more like Incontrol was right.. European B teamers > NA A teamers!

I don't want to say Grubby and Cloud are B-teamers. Don't know enough of LiveZerg to tell him what he is.

Grubby one of the best WC3 pro's ever. Has been to Korea and plays really good the past couple of weeks.

Cloud had his arm broken, getting back in there, one of the best Terrans in Europe.

Cloud and Grubby are absolutely European B teamers. Throughout SC2 they have never been considered even top3 for their respective races in Europe; no one expects these guys to win a tournament.


Only people that are not involved in European Scene dont.
Grubby for example won a bo7 against nerchio even before he went to Korea. It's just that he doesn't play that many tournaments and is a bit shaky sometimes but he is definitly one of the better Europeans.

So he's better than Sase/Naniwa/Mana? And Cloud > Strelok/Thorzain/Bratok/Demuslim/Kas/Beasty.... It never ends.


If you think that Demuslim, Strelok , Beasty and Bratok are better than Cloud, you probably don't know anything about the european scene.
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
October 22 2011 14:19 GMT
#2937
mana take down son
VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 22 2011 14:19 GMT
#2938
0:00

MC vs Mana

Game 2 on Metalopolis

Mana is up 1 game to 0.

Mana spawns at 1 o'clock
MC spawns at 3 o'clock

Close by air.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 22 2011 14:20 GMT
#2939
On October 22 2011 23:17 Poisonblack wrote:
pvp is pretty much a coin toss lol

not this one when every player has ability of scouting opponent and make decisions that matter, stop this coinflip bullshit
Stork[gm]
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 22 2011 14:20 GMT
#2940
On October 22 2011 23:14 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:12 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:07 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:05 AxionSteel wrote:
It depends what you mean by A-Team, Grubby might not be top 3 protoss in EU, but he's still a top european player. Europe has a lot more depth than NA.

A-team would be the top10 in any particular region, no? I mean, how big are your teams O_o


So when you look at Europe, you have Mana, nerchio, stephano, thorzain, naniwa, jinro, sjow, sase, hasuobs, socke, dimaga, morrow, Kas, White Ra, Strelok etc etc, that's far more than 10, and there's many more, I don't think you can say there's only ten A team players in Europe. I'd rather rank by tiers, all of them are top European players, and I'd put Grubby and Cloud as a top tier European player as well. 2nd Tier would probably include LiveZerg, though.


I just wouldn't put Grubby/Cloud on the same level as Whitera/Thorzain at all, and if they are, they haven't shown it in terms of results.

Perhaps ClouD is overall not on the level of ThorZaIN, but TvT wise ClouD is better.

Grubby would be the second tier of protosses at the moment I THINK, behind Nani/Sase/MaNa, but he can beat all of them. Don't really know that for certain, seeing as we haven't seen too much of him since he went to Korea.

Also, results are not everything, and White-Ra doesn't have that great results either.


I highly doubt you can say ClouD is better tvt than thorzain based one one series :S ThorZaiN definitely had his chances, i'd back him in a Bo7 any day of the week.

Grubby looks really really strong lately, saw him streaming from Korea, looked good. Obviously can't call him top 3 or 4 protoss in EU, but he's a top EU player now IMO.


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