EPTor is that just mana and tzain?
ESWC 2011 Grand Finals - Page 143
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
or is that just mana and tzain? | ||
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VegaNZ
New Zealand317 Posts
Lucky buggers!!! | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
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HappyChris
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Alak
Sweden380 Posts
On October 22 2011 23:02 FinnGamer wrote: Except for LiveZerg everyone of those can be considered a EU A-Teamer (Idra being a NA A-team) There were definitely upsets, but having 2 Americans there can't really justify such a claim Surely Grubby and ClouD can't be considered A-Teamers? I don't think anyone is expecting anyone of them to win a tournament, especially not considering their opposition. | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On October 22 2011 23:03 Alak wrote: Surely Grubby and ClouD can't be considered A-Teamers? I don't think anyone is expecting anyone of them to win a tournament, especially not considering their opposition. grubby is surely on the a team of team grubby? | ||
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o)_Saurus
Germany260 Posts
On October 22 2011 23:02 Jehct wrote: Cloud and Grubby are absolutely European B teamers. Throughout SC2 they have never been considered even top3 for their respective races in Europe; no one expects these guys to win a tournament. Only people that are not involved in European Scene dont. Grubby for example won a bo7 against nerchio even before he went to Korea. It's just that he doesn't play that many tournaments and is a bit shaky sometimes but he is definitly one of the better Europeans. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Get revenge for IEM. Since when did Mana have excellent PvP? I love him, but his PvP is relatively terrible... | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Its really not that amazing and hard if you have better upgrades + a decent split with medivacs. Yet ClouD decided to do a massive drop because ThorZaIN KNEW he probably can get caught offguard if he starts moving so he was playing defensive in the middle. If TZ had a sensor tower or turrets, things would look completely different but he did not. Thats what I talked about earlier, you can really really easily just lose a game of Starcraft 2. That game did not really show that TZ is worse, nor did it show the opposite. GGs.. I'd wish to see TZ play Stephano but ClouD won and people should get over it. | ||
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mighty_honour_korea
Scotland198 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On October 22 2011 23:04 o)_Saurus wrote: Only people that are not involved in European Scene dont. Grubby for example won a bo7 against nerchio even before he went to Korea. It's just that he doesn't play that many tournaments and is a bit shaky sometimes but he is definitly one of the better Europeans. So he's better than Sase/Naniwa/Mana? And Cloud > Strelok/Thorzain/Bratok/Demuslim/Kas/Beasty.... It never ends. | ||
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Nightkaira
Singapore412 Posts
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VegaNZ
New Zealand317 Posts
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Grettin
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CryMeAReaper
Denmark1135 Posts
On October 22 2011 23:02 Jehct wrote: Cloud and Grubby are absolutely European B teamers. Throughout SC2 they have never been considered even top3 for their respective races in Europe; no one expects these guys to win a tournament. Well depends on how you define an A teamer or an B teamer. If you define an "A" player as in top 3 in their region, then yes, ClouD is prolly not A teamer but a high lvl B teamer. However, imo an A teamer is around top 10 or so in their region, the guys you expect to do well (not neccesarily win it), while guys like Thorzain, Nerchio are A+/S team. But generally I think you shouldnt label players like that, as almost everyone at the top level can beat each other if the conditions are there. | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On October 22 2011 23:05 AxionSteel wrote: It depends what you mean by A-Team, Grubby might not be top 3 protoss in EU, but he's still a top european player. Europe has a lot more depth than NA. A-team would be the top10 in any particular region, no? I mean, how big are your teams O_o | ||
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Mouzone
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