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vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 14:03:15
October 22 2011 14:03 GMT
#2841
mouz players don't wish others gl, only to hf hahaha.

or is that just mana and tzain?
VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 22 2011 14:03 GMT
#2842
something about watching Khaldor and Doa chillin in their room with their cups of coffee (or w/e), casting these games, makes me realise they are living my dream life.

Lucky buggers!!!

sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 22 2011 14:03 GMT
#2843
tb has the protoss half, mc first then grubby
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
October 22 2011 14:03 GMT
#2844
Aww poor MaNa worst match up vs a great opponent. MC gonna clean the floor with him
Alak
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden380 Posts
October 22 2011 14:03 GMT
#2845
On October 22 2011 23:02 FinnGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 22:58 xCenasfu wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:56 Jehct wrote:
What a crazy tournament. Idra, Nerchio & Thorzain out while Livezerg, Grubby & Cloud in - it's like the European B-teamers strike back O_o


I think its more like Incontrol was right.. European B teamers > NA A teamers!

Except for LiveZerg everyone of those can be considered a EU A-Teamer (Idra being a NA A-team)
There were definitely upsets, but having 2 Americans there can't really justify such a claim


Surely Grubby and ClouD can't be considered A-Teamers? I don't think anyone is expecting anyone of them to win a tournament, especially not considering their opposition.
Amateurish. Nearsighted. A waste of my time and everyone else's.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
October 22 2011 14:03 GMT
#2846
APM wars
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 22 2011 14:04 GMT
#2847
On October 22 2011 23:03 Alak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:02 FinnGamer wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:58 xCenasfu wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:56 Jehct wrote:
What a crazy tournament. Idra, Nerchio & Thorzain out while Livezerg, Grubby & Cloud in - it's like the European B-teamers strike back O_o


I think its more like Incontrol was right.. European B teamers > NA A teamers!

Except for LiveZerg everyone of those can be considered a EU A-Teamer (Idra being a NA A-team)
There were definitely upsets, but having 2 Americans there can't really justify such a claim


Surely Grubby and ClouD can't be considered A-Teamers? I don't think anyone is expecting anyone of them to win a tournament, especially not considering their opposition.


grubby is surely on the a team of team grubby?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
o)_Saurus
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany260 Posts
October 22 2011 14:04 GMT
#2848
On October 22 2011 23:02 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:00 Baituri wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:58 xCenasfu wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:56 Jehct wrote:
What a crazy tournament. Idra, Nerchio & Thorzain out while Livezerg, Grubby & Cloud in - it's like the European B-teamers strike back O_o


I think its more like Incontrol was right.. European B teamers > NA A teamers!

I don't want to say Grubby and Cloud are B-teamers. Don't know enough of LiveZerg to tell him what he is.

Grubby one of the best WC3 pro's ever. Has been to Korea and plays really good the past couple of weeks.

Cloud had his arm broken, getting back in there, one of the best Terrans in Europe.

Cloud and Grubby are absolutely European B teamers. Throughout SC2 they have never been considered even top3 for their respective races in Europe; no one expects these guys to win a tournament.


Only people that are not involved in European Scene dont.
Grubby for example won a bo7 against nerchio even before he went to Korea. It's just that he doesn't play that many tournaments and is a bit shaky sometimes but he is definitly one of the better Europeans.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 22 2011 14:04 GMT
#2849
Come on MANA!!!!!!
Get revenge for IEM.



Since when did Mana have excellent PvP? I love him, but his PvP is relatively terrible...
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 22 2011 14:04 GMT
#2850
I think people fail to realize that ThorZaIN could not push very fast. Yes he had tanks and a 'better' composition but only if he moves slowly and leapfrogs. We all know Marines do insane DPS and with superior upgrades ClouD had 3-2 vs 2-1 he would have walked right through marine/tank...

Its really not that amazing and hard if you have better upgrades + a decent split with medivacs. Yet ClouD decided to do a massive drop because ThorZaIN KNEW he probably can get caught offguard if he starts moving so he was playing defensive in the middle. If TZ had a sensor tower or turrets, things would look completely different but he did not.

Thats what I talked about earlier, you can really really easily just lose a game of Starcraft 2. That game did not really show that TZ is worse, nor did it show the opposite.

GGs.. I'd wish to see TZ play Stephano but ClouD won and people should get over it.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
mighty_honour_korea
Profile Joined March 2010
Scotland198 Posts
October 22 2011 14:05 GMT
#2851
Are all the quarter finals being played at the same time?
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 22 2011 14:05 GMT
#2852
It depends what you mean by A-Team, Grubby might not be top 3 protoss in EU, but he's still a top european player. Europe has a lot more depth than NA.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 22 2011 14:06 GMT
#2853
On October 22 2011 23:04 o)_Saurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:02 Jehct wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:00 Baituri wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:58 xCenasfu wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:56 Jehct wrote:
What a crazy tournament. Idra, Nerchio & Thorzain out while Livezerg, Grubby & Cloud in - it's like the European B-teamers strike back O_o


I think its more like Incontrol was right.. European B teamers > NA A teamers!

I don't want to say Grubby and Cloud are B-teamers. Don't know enough of LiveZerg to tell him what he is.

Grubby one of the best WC3 pro's ever. Has been to Korea and plays really good the past couple of weeks.

Cloud had his arm broken, getting back in there, one of the best Terrans in Europe.

Cloud and Grubby are absolutely European B teamers. Throughout SC2 they have never been considered even top3 for their respective races in Europe; no one expects these guys to win a tournament.


Only people that are not involved in European Scene dont.
Grubby for example won a bo7 against nerchio even before he went to Korea. It's just that he doesn't play that many tournaments and is a bit shaky sometimes but he is definitly one of the better Europeans.

So he's better than Sase/Naniwa/Mana? And Cloud > Strelok/Thorzain/Bratok/Demuslim/Kas/Beasty.... It never ends.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Nightkaira
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore412 Posts
October 22 2011 14:06 GMT
#2854
someone LR MC's game please ? =D
VegaNZ
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand317 Posts
October 22 2011 14:07 GMT
#2855
MC wins the fist zealot/stalker engagement, actuallys gets both mana's stalker and zealot with zero losses
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 22 2011 14:07 GMT
#2856
What was that MC?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
October 22 2011 14:07 GMT
#2857
On October 22 2011 23:02 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:00 Baituri wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:58 xCenasfu wrote:
On October 22 2011 22:56 Jehct wrote:
What a crazy tournament. Idra, Nerchio & Thorzain out while Livezerg, Grubby & Cloud in - it's like the European B-teamers strike back O_o


I think its more like Incontrol was right.. European B teamers > NA A teamers!

I don't want to say Grubby and Cloud are B-teamers. Don't know enough of LiveZerg to tell him what he is.

Grubby one of the best WC3 pro's ever. Has been to Korea and plays really good the past couple of weeks.

Cloud had his arm broken, getting back in there, one of the best Terrans in Europe.

Cloud and Grubby are absolutely European B teamers. Throughout SC2 they have never been considered even top3 for their respective races in Europe; no one expects these guys to win a tournament.


Well depends on how you define an A teamer or an B teamer. If you define an "A" player as in top 3 in their region, then yes, ClouD is prolly not A teamer but a high lvl B teamer. However, imo an A teamer is around top 10 or so in their region, the guys you expect to do well (not neccesarily win it), while guys like Thorzain, Nerchio are A+/S team.

But generally I think you shouldnt label players like that, as almost everyone at the top level can beat each other if the conditions are there.
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 22 2011 14:07 GMT
#2858
On October 22 2011 23:05 AxionSteel wrote:
It depends what you mean by A-Team, Grubby might not be top 3 protoss in EU, but he's still a top european player. Europe has a lot more depth than NA.

A-team would be the top10 in any particular region, no? I mean, how big are your teams O_o
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
October 22 2011 14:07 GMT
#2859
Why are all streams casting the same game?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 22 2011 14:07 GMT
#2860
For those about to scan the streams: MaNa vs MC on all of them.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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