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Keep enjoying the games. In advance, if you OP whine, see you in a while. If you post well, hopefully see a lot more of you :D <3
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:39:09
October 04 2011 03:36 GMT
#841
On October 04 2011 12:34 nanaoei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:27 sAfuRos wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:26 kolofome wrote:
elfi didnt deserve that, hasu outplayed him in just about everyway


All of you guys claiming Hasu outplayed...i hope you realize PvP at the top level is like 80% decision making. Its all metagame.

Edit: that is, almost every top player has good enough micro do almost anything; its the choices and mindgames that win, thus, Hasu losing means Hasu was, at least today, the worse PvPer

kthxbai


kthxhai, care to explain why it's ~80% in each and every game of PvP?
most people are saying that hasuobs is more consistent in his good decision making mid to late game. even players today are unsure of the best way to play. if it means being able to stay alive, and being able to play well in the late game, then yeah, hasuobs did play a better style but fell short.


Uh, 80% was an arbitrary number to illustrate the point that PvP is by and far all about the choices you make

Care to explain? Yes. Everyone can blink stalkers and move around their colossus. Not fucking hard. Its the reads you make and the choices you make based on them that determine the game. End of story. Hasu isn't bad he just got outplayed. Boom.

edit: game 3, no cannon in main was a terrible decision. he was safe from the front and from blink (and he knew it) and thus the only possible threat was dt into main, and he didn't build a single cannon despite having forge

game 4: he should have won that game, and i think anyone who knows phoenix pvp and pvp in general realized that. moving down the ramp to defend that one gateway with only one immortal BARELY lost him the game, and if he had had 3 immortals or more it would have just been a move into hasu for hard win, and phoenix/obs to prevent blinking in/map awareness, or just go for base trade because he would have won that too

game 5: LOL in general there. if you think hasu outplayed in any way in game 5, you're just wrong
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
Timerly
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany511 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#842
Only Elfi would want Puma as an opponent in PvT looooooooooool
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#843
On October 04 2011 12:36 SequentiaL wrote:
As much as I want to root for Elfi, i dont think Elfi can beat Idra or Puma. Nonetheless, im looking forward to Puma vs Idra


For the second time, elfi just beat idra in pool play.. omg where are these people coming from?
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#844
wow "i dont think i can beat either of them" from elfi

god i love EG
MLG Wahoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#845
lol. Elfi just said "I don't think I can beat any of them" when asked who he'd rather face.
kolofome
Profile Joined December 2010
United States96 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#846
On October 04 2011 12:36 Montana[TK] wrote:
i would lololo so hard if elfi wins vs idra


if idra beats puma, most likely I think he would lose to elfi
battlefield 3 is pretty damn fun
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:40:01
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#847
On October 04 2011 12:34 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:33 usethis2 wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:30 bkrow wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:29 usethis2 wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:27 sAfuRos wrote:
On October 04 2011 12:26 kolofome wrote:
elfi didnt deserve that, hasu outplayed him in just about everyway


All of you guys claiming Hasu outplayed...i hope you realize PvP at the top level is like 80% decision making. Its all metagame.

You mean, coin-flipping.

Glad I missed the series between Hasu and Elfi. I enjoyed dinner instead. ^^

Wtf; how can you be "glad" you missed something when you have no idea what happened.

It was a pretty amazing series with a lot of back and forth action and awesome engagements. Really really entertaining to watch.

I got to watch like last 3 minutes where both Dark shrines were going up. I figured I wouldn't have missed much.

Unfortunately you missed heaps! Hasu was behind so he went for a gamble, and Elfi scouted no robo or forge so made the correct decision. DT shrine != insta-cheese

Anyway; i would recommend that series for some entertaining PvP

Thank you for letting me know. I might think about catching up the replays. ^^ But based on what I saw from Elfi's previous replays I highly doubt I'll watch his games. Waste of time, IMO. To be blunt, I think it's the sad state of SC2 (and to an extent Protoss race) that a player like Elfi (in his current form) can rack up wins.
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#848
Man what a nice guy, he gave a great interview and just seems to happy to be playing well. Definitely a huge Elfi fan now
stu >)
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#849
Wanting Puma takes some fucking BALLS.

Elfi just made a huge fan of me.
Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#850
Elfi doesnt think he can beat idrA instead of puma? even as a fan of idra that sounds off
do you REALLY want additional pylons?
P3rytt
Profile Joined August 2011
137 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#851
On October 04 2011 12:35 Ubertron wrote:
When Huk beat Naniwa in the final of Homestory cup I think it was, with a massive supply deficit and a risky DT switch everybody loved it, as did it. Huk showed a huge pair of balls and pulled back the deficit

Why the Elfi bashing?


I think it's because Huk also won macro games against Naniwa in that series whereas it felt like Elfi could only pull ahead with perfectly timed DT's which is fair play to him I guess lol just not as impressive as Hasu's sandwish in g2
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#852
After hearing that interview....I think Elfi is going to beat whoever comes out of the other semi. I could see the fire in his eyes.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:38:12
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#853
is there a way to watch the IEM from the Chinese stream with Chinese commenters??

Actually, Is there a Chinese casters stream?
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#854
On October 04 2011 12:34 kolofome wrote:
...someone get a translator


I can hear Elfi fine...his accent seems similar to Eastern European (Ukraine/Russia?)
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
October 04 2011 03:38 GMT
#855
I'm an instant elfi fan.Guy has some charisma.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
October 04 2011 03:38 GMT
#856
The guy has some respect for Idra despite beating him 2-0.
But he should consider that TvP is Pumas best matchup and ZvP Idras worst. So he certainly has better chances against Idra.
MLG Wahoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4 Posts
October 04 2011 03:38 GMT
#857
On October 04 2011 12:37 Mohdoo wrote:
Wanting Puma takes some fucking BALLS.

Elfi just made a huge fan of me.


He claims his PvZ is awful, so he'd rather play T. Then again it's Puma. Then again, he just said he doesn't think he can beat any of them.

Man, I hope the finals isn't lame.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
October 04 2011 03:38 GMT
#858
On October 04 2011 12:35 sAfuRos wrote:
LOL at kevin trying to push through his bullshit theory on how blink only would have won the shakuras game

WHEN YOU BLINK YOU CANT BLINK AGAIN FOR A WHILE, THUS, WHEN YOU BLINK INTO A BASE AND THEY HAVE ZEALOTS AND NEAR EQUAL STALKERS AND CLOSER REINFORCEMENTS, YOU WILL LOSE WAY MORE AND RUIN YOUR CHANCES OF WINNING

someone send this guy the goddamn memo

Give it a freaking rest. He had an observer so he could've blinked into a spot where Hasu had no units. It wasn't a sure victory but it was completely possible it would've won the game. Get the freaking stick out of your ass and chill out.
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
October 04 2011 03:38 GMT
#859
On October 04 2011 12:35 sAfuRos wrote:
LOL at kevin trying to push through his bullshit theory on how blink only would have won the shakuras game

WHEN YOU BLINK YOU CANT BLINK AGAIN FOR A WHILE, THUS, WHEN YOU BLINK INTO A BASE AND THEY HAVE ZEALOTS AND NEAR EQUAL STALKERS AND CLOSER REINFORCEMENTS, YOU WILL LOSE WAY MORE AND RUIN YOUR CHANCES OF WINNING

someone send this guy the goddamn memo


yo take a chill pill dawg
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
October 04 2011 03:38 GMT
#860
Great interview, I really liked how the questions were laid out. Elfi you got some fans today I think!
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