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Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
October 04 2011 18:43 GMT
#5281
IdrA vs Puma starting now on ESL.TV!
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 18:48:23
October 04 2011 18:45 GMT
#5282
On October 05 2011 03:43 Serashin wrote:
The results and the replays feel so much like matchmaking from Idra and Puma ,
the Puma i saw in the other lans was all about focusing on winning and attacking... also constant droping and agressive dropping was what made him stand out.
Just watched the replay of game 1 from Idra vs Puma and this was 100 % weird.



Watch game 2....There was 3 pronged attacks from Puma all game long.

Does anyone else hear SC2 Terran sounds/someones music on the ESL stream? It sounds like I have someone's stream minimized and am watching the ESL stream
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 18:50:26
October 04 2011 18:45 GMT
#5283
On October 05 2011 03:43 Serashin wrote:
The results and the replays feel so much like matchmaking from Idra and Puma ,
the Puma i saw in the other lans was all about focusing on winning and attacking... also constant droping and agressive dropping was what made him stand out.
Just watched the replay of game 1 from Idra vs Puma and this was 100 % weird.


how about u stfu and watch g2 there was no matchmaking are you kidding me and in game 3 i got a perfect pic for that


Edit: turtle ghost mech is fucking nuts on temple there was a resaosn why idra was not tryign to att you see the choke around the nat and gold..? thats why idra went ultras and was tryign to nydus and stuff
TCC
Profile Joined September 2011
46 Posts
October 04 2011 18:50 GMT
#5284
PuMa looked in pretty good shape splitting the map and turtling in game 1. I thought IdrA couldn't break the defense even though he was on 200/200 already. Of course IdrA then started the mutas/nydus/ultras/lings harrass which eventually won him the game
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
October 04 2011 18:53 GMT
#5285
On October 05 2011 03:50 TCC wrote:
PuMa looked in pretty good shape splitting the map and turtling in game 1. I thought IdrA couldn't break the defense even though he was on 200/200 already. Of course IdrA then started the mutas/nydus/ultras/lings harrass which eventually won him the game


and the fungle on the ghosts so the banes could kill a lot of them like nerly half
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
October 04 2011 18:54 GMT
#5286
On October 05 2011 03:53 Whiteman103 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 03:50 TCC wrote:
PuMa looked in pretty good shape splitting the map and turtling in game 1. I thought IdrA couldn't break the defense even though he was on 200/200 already. Of course IdrA then started the mutas/nydus/ultras/lings harrass which eventually won him the game


and the fungle on the ghosts so the banes could kill a lot of them like nerly half


does puma ever split. the fungals in the games were ridiculous
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
October 04 2011 18:55 GMT
#5287
On game one Puma plays too passively, he's not the puma we're used to see.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Shrimpy949
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada53 Posts
October 04 2011 18:57 GMT
#5288
On October 04 2011 23:51 On_Slaught wrote:
For people who watched the idra games, was it a better showing of Idra improving or of Puma degressing?


Idra played very well as did puma though not as well in the 3rd game. Just because Puma lost doesn't mean he is degressing. People lose games. And he played great in the groups and against all the Protoss he played. I definitely think Idra played more to his potential.
Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
October 04 2011 18:58 GMT
#5289
who won the sick nerd baller award?
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 19:03:43
October 04 2011 19:00 GMT
#5290
was puma even trying? it kinda looks like he wasn't or maybe idra played that good? don't think so either.

I mean game 1 he didn't even make a move, and imo on games 2 and 3 there were moments when he could've done some serious damage but decided to either go chasing mutas or just show his army to idra then retreat and come back just after a full round of units spawned. gotta be quite honest here, those games are kinda bad.
BushidoSnipr
Profile Joined November 2010
United States910 Posts
October 04 2011 19:01 GMT
#5291
Props to IdrA-He's really cleaned up his ZvT
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 19:05:12
October 04 2011 19:03 GMT
#5292
On October 05 2011 03:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 03:53 Whiteman103 wrote:
On October 05 2011 03:50 TCC wrote:
PuMa looked in pretty good shape splitting the map and turtling in game 1. I thought IdrA couldn't break the defense even though he was on 200/200 already. Of course IdrA then started the mutas/nydus/ultras/lings harrass which eventually won him the game


and the fungle on the ghosts so the banes could kill a lot of them like nerly half


does puma ever split. the fungals in the games were ridiculous


i think this will answer that question 25:50 in the vid the link i put here had it start right form there.

Pr0d1gy2k5
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal110 Posts
October 04 2011 19:03 GMT
#5293
holy crap this IdrA vs PuMa Game 1. Finally putting up all that apm to massive multi pronged attacked, awesome.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
October 04 2011 19:04 GMT
#5294
IdrA metagamed him. Puma was expecting Broodlords after that ultra fast Spire and mass mutas so he passively expanded and stocked up on Ghosts. When the Ultras came he'd already lost.


Stop passive-aggressively hating on IdrA for stupid reasons, he played very well this game. So did Puma. He didn't scout the Ultra den, that was his only mistake.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
October 04 2011 19:04 GMT
#5295
hmm I don't think people are so infatuated with idra's play so much as he didn't botch his leads and kept getting ahead. it's been awhile since we've seen idra win games he should've won.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 04 2011 19:05 GMT
#5296
On October 05 2011 04:04 Jinsho wrote:
IdrA metagamed him. Puma was expecting Broodlords after that ultra fast Spire and mass mutas so he passively expanded and stocked up on Ghosts. When the Ultras came he'd already lost.


Stop passive-aggressively hating on IdrA for stupid reasons, he played very well this game. So did Puma. He didn't scout the Ultra den, that was his only mistake.


Large amounts of ghosts actually work well against ultras too, just not when there are 16 ultras out on the field at a time and the zerg has a large economy advantage.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
October 04 2011 19:06 GMT
#5297
On October 05 2011 04:00 latan wrote:
was puma even trying? it kinda looks like he wasn't or maybe idra played that good? don't think so either.

I mean game 1 he didn't even make a move, and imo on games 2 and 3 there were moments when he could've done some serious damage but decided to either go chasing mutas or just show his army to idra then retreat and come back just after a full round of units spawned. gotta be quite honest here, those games are kinda bad.


Thats a really dumb comment to make. Who plays for a $6500 prize , makes it all the way to the end and then decides not to try. This is not the same as splitting the prize either as the loser of their match fights for 3rd place, which has a much much lower prize. Sometimes people say the weirdest things.
mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
October 04 2011 19:07 GMT
#5298
I love this build from PuMa!
Head of New Business at Team Kinguin :: https://www.teamkinguin.com
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 19:08:25
October 04 2011 19:07 GMT
#5299
It's true. They can work quite nicely but it's not what you really want to have against Ultras. I think it takes 12 snipes to kill 1 Ultra compared to like... 6? 8? for a Broodlord, so they die slower, and they cleave, so they're quite good versus Marauder-less bio.
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
October 04 2011 19:09 GMT
#5300
On October 05 2011 03:55 Yaki wrote:
On game one Puma plays too passively, he's not the puma we're used to see.


idra stated in an interview that puma plays that style on shattered.
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