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Keep enjoying the games. In advance, if you OP whine, see you in a while. If you post well, hopefully see a lot more of you :D <3
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
October 04 2011 06:12 GMT
#3281
On October 04 2011 15:09 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:
i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.png

I mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before.


The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match.

Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.-


Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions.


Did you read the above post?

You have virtually 0 evidence that there is any match fixing going on. To simply throw around that term is extremely dangerous. You should seriously think about what you're saying before making that accusation again...

BTW the Demu v Idra thing is a lot different, Demu joined the tourney then realized midway that he was ineligible or unable to play.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
October 04 2011 06:12 GMT
#3282
any updates on slashers hair?
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 04 2011 06:12 GMT
#3283
Ah, I knew PuMa has a dodgy TvZ, but still IdrA 3-0'ing him is amazing considering the players he loses to these days, great performance!
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 06:16:06
October 04 2011 06:12 GMT
#3284
Beautiful tactical play by Puma. ok This is better.

edit: Puma drop shipped about 8 marauders to this "4th" and then stimmed and engaged while Hasu was poking at the front. 2 collosi were snapped in half easy peasy.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
October 04 2011 06:12 GMT
#3285
Crazy backstab by Puma.
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
October 04 2011 06:13 GMT
#3286
Huh just got into work and i see that Idra pwned PuMa 3-0 that fuckin fantastic :D
Power is nothing without control
Turquoise
Profile Joined August 2011
Turkey145 Posts
October 04 2011 06:13 GMT
#3287
Wow Puma surviving that push =O
Here's looking at you, kid.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 04 2011 06:13 GMT
#3288
Wtf, backing off with 8 stlakers, a sentry, and 2 colossus vs 2 medivacs, a few vikings, 2 marauders and 2 marines? WHAT?!
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
October 04 2011 06:13 GMT
#3289
Wheres the drop defense? The whole game is mother fucking drops.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
October 04 2011 06:13 GMT
#3290
Just woke up. Oh Slasher :D
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
October 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#3291
On October 04 2011 15:12 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 15:09 dainbramage wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:
i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.png

I mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before.


The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match.

Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.-


Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions.


Did you read the above post?

You have virtually 0 evidence that there is any match fixing going on. To simply throw around that term is extremely dangerous. You should seriously think about what you're saying before making that accusation again...

BTW the Demu v Idra thing is a lot different, Demu joined the tourney then realized midway that he was ineligible or unable to play.


(and all the similar posts)

I'm not trying to imply that puma v idra was fixed, or that it was the same as demu v idra. I'm just saying that it will raise questions regardless of the truth, and just the questions being raised can be bad.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
October 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#3292
Hasu needs to tech now that he's ahead. Puma's making 3 vikings at a time he's gonna crush colo soon.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#3293
hasuowned
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
October 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#3294
Hasuuuuuu! WP!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
October 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#3295
Those collossi where dancing all over the place.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#3296
so late.. but these games are so... good... argh
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
samd
Profile Joined July 2011
United States77 Posts
October 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#3297
On October 04 2011 15:12 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 15:09 dainbramage wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:
i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.png

I mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before.


The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match.

Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.-


Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions.


Did you read the above post?

You have virtually 0 evidence that there is any match fixing going on. To simply throw around that term is extremely dangerous. You should seriously think about what you're saying before making that accusation again...

BTW the Demu v Idra thing is a lot different, Demu joined the tourney then realized midway that he was ineligible or unable to play.



0 evidence except this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.png and the fact that Puma didn't need this to qualify for IEM championships while Idra did. Also think of how good of a story this will make, EG is going to get a TON of publicity if Idra wins.
wat
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
October 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#3298
PUAM GGS HASU WINS HASU WINS!

Please read that in horse racing caster voice.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Turquoise
Profile Joined August 2011
Turkey145 Posts
October 04 2011 06:15 GMT
#3299
gg
Here's looking at you, kid.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
October 04 2011 06:15 GMT
#3300
ooo, Hasu takes a game, silencing all the people predicting a quick 3-0.

snap.
For Aiur???
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