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On October 04 2011 15:12 TOCHMY wrote:
any updates on slashers hair?
What updates there should be? He will lose the hair, completely.
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On October 04 2011 15:09 dainbramage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.pngI mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before. The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match. Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.- Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions.
Because its impossible that IdrA is improving...
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On October 04 2011 15:14 dainbramage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:12 FairForever wrote:On October 04 2011 15:09 dainbramage wrote:On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.pngI mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before. The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match. Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.- Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions. Did you read the above post? You have virtually 0 evidence that there is any match fixing going on. To simply throw around that term is extremely dangerous. You should seriously think about what you're saying before making that accusation again... BTW the Demu v Idra thing is a lot different, Demu joined the tourney then realized midway that he was ineligible or unable to play. (and all the similar posts) I'm not trying to imply that puma v idra was fixed, or that it was the same as demu v idra. I'm just saying that it will raise questions regardless of the truth, and just the questions being raised can be bad.
Please stop talking about your conspiracy about throwing matches. Go create a thread with your evidence and see how far it takes you but this is not the thread for it.
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On October 04 2011 15:14 dainbramage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:12 FairForever wrote:On October 04 2011 15:09 dainbramage wrote:On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.pngI mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before. The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match. Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.- Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions. Did you read the above post? You have virtually 0 evidence that there is any match fixing going on. To simply throw around that term is extremely dangerous. You should seriously think about what you're saying before making that accusation again... BTW the Demu v Idra thing is a lot different, Demu joined the tourney then realized midway that he was ineligible or unable to play. (and all the similar posts) I'm not trying to imply that puma v idra was fixed, or that it was the same as demu v idra. I'm just saying that it will raise questions regardless of the truth, and just the questions being raised can be bad.
It's only bad when people like you start rumours that are unfounded and hold no water. The rest of us are just enjoying the match. Contrary to popular belief Puma can lose games too.
Like that one. He just played shitty, his ghost timing attack got hardcountered and he lost that.
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Puma: Ive had enough toying with you
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*pulls out 1-1-1 BO*
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Good to see Terran getting punished for doing such a risky push without scouting for collo or ht tech
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On October 04 2011 15:14 samd wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:12 FairForever wrote:On October 04 2011 15:09 dainbramage wrote:On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.pngI mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before. The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match. Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.- Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions. Did you read the above post? You have virtually 0 evidence that there is any match fixing going on. To simply throw around that term is extremely dangerous. You should seriously think about what you're saying before making that accusation again... BTW the Demu v Idra thing is a lot different, Demu joined the tourney then realized midway that he was ineligible or unable to play. 0 evidence except this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.png and the fact that Puma didn't need this to qualify for IEM championships while Idra did. Also think of how good of a story this will make, EG is going to get a TON of publicity if Idra wins.
It's definitely a possibility but that tweet proves nothing. It's just suspicious, and accusations as severe as match fixing shouldn't be based solely on suspicious circumstances, but on real proof.
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On October 04 2011 15:15 danson wrote:
Puma: Ive had enough toying with you
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*pulls out 1-1-1 BO*
Hasuu: I've had enough of this 1/1/1
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*pulls out 1.4 immortal
Good to see Terran getting punished for doing such a risky push without scouting for collo or ht tech
Yea. Build order loss.
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I just woke up to the Puma vs Idra result...... WHAT
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On October 04 2011 15:16 Techno wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:15 danson wrote:
Puma: Ive had enough toying with you
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*pulls out 1-1-1 BO* Hasuu: I've had enough of this 1/1/1 --- *pulls out 1.4 immortal
actually mothership and warprism, not immortal.
Nice try tho.
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On October 04 2011 15:16 Techno wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:15 danson wrote:
Puma: Ive had enough toying with you
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*pulls out 1-1-1 BO* Hasuu: I've had enough of this 1/1/1 --- *pulls out 1.4 immortal
Oh if only it was that simple unless we're talking about some replacement to the 3gate void.
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On October 04 2011 15:14 samd wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:12 FairForever wrote:On October 04 2011 15:09 dainbramage wrote:On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.pngI mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before. The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match. Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.- Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions. Did you read the above post? You have virtually 0 evidence that there is any match fixing going on. To simply throw around that term is extremely dangerous. You should seriously think about what you're saying before making that accusation again... BTW the Demu v Idra thing is a lot different, Demu joined the tourney then realized midway that he was ineligible or unable to play. 0 evidence except this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.png and the fact that Puma didn't need this to qualify for IEM championships while Idra did. Also think of how good of a story this will make, EG is going to get a TON of publicity if Idra wins.
Okay well I think TLO threw the games at MLG Anaheim in the Elimination stage against Sheth, since TLO had already lost to Naniwa and would be facing a very difficult challenge to win in an extended series. I have no evidence. But it makes sense!!!
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On October 04 2011 15:08 Brian333 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 15:04 Moralez wrote:On October 04 2011 15:03 Wipples wrote:
Why don't protoss ever research hallucination for the midgame when its HT vs. Ghost? Seems to me like Hallucinating some HTS would be a good way to keep them from being sniped or EMPd. Any reasons not to do this? Thats a really good idea, dont know why protosses dont do that :o actually vs zerg hallucinated lossus are really annoying aswell vs corrupters. Because the Terran will always scan ahead of his army? Just watch that replay and see how many times Puma scans. The second he sees one hallucination, you think he won't scan before he goes in to snipe? Not to mention you need energy to hallucinate also need to FF, and EMP makes it difficult to do either.
precisely
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3 koreeans participating and no koreean 1st place. the world is about to end. brace yourselves.
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I actually really like the EU pride that Rotterdam shows. Pretty sweet how into it he is.
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On October 04 2011 15:16 mitthrawn wrote:
I just woke up to the Puma vs Idra result...... WHAT
Yeah it was super cute
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probe sneaks into base, puma should've walled off.
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Bitter and Rotti are the fucking best. They give Day9 + husky and tastosis a run for their money
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If you cross your eyes slightly it looks like Hasu is wearing Adam Jensen glasses.
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And so now that Puma has dropped a game against Hasu does that mean that this match is fixed too? Maybe Mouz made a deal with EG that they would take third over loser of Idra/Puma?
I mean, because this is all totally plausible, right?
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