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Keep enjoying the games. In advance, if you OP whine, see you in a while. If you post well, hopefully see a lot more of you :D <3
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 06:08:21
October 04 2011 06:07 GMT
#3261
On October 04 2011 15:05 Tewks44 wrote:
I think as the meta-game evolves we're gonna see hallucination used a lot more. Just imagine with a handful of sentires you can trick terran into thinking you're running a bunch of zealots into his bio = emp wasted on hallucinated zealots.

Waste, especially when Terran is constantly scanning you to get EMPs and Snipes, and stopping Templar trying to get Feedbacks.

Even then, it's still a waste. You can use micro and/or warp prism to protect against EMPs. Hasu didn't lose that game because of a micro...he lost it because he was far behind.
trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
October 04 2011 06:08 GMT
#3262
On October 04 2011 15:04 trikshun wrote:He played in China before. He was apart of Team USA with Artosis and Tasteless


Neat, thanks

:: searches for Team USA on TL ::

jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 04 2011 06:08 GMT
#3263
he shouldn't think 1-1-1 cause of the tech lab on the barracks at this time
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
October 04 2011 06:08 GMT
#3264
On October 04 2011 15:07 samd wrote:
that tod story was awesome


Lol that was pretty hilarious. "it was worth it."
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 06:10:40
October 04 2011 06:08 GMT
#3265
On October 04 2011 15:04 Moralez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 15:03 Wipples wrote:
Why don't protoss ever research hallucination for the midgame when its HT vs. Ghost? Seems to me like Hallucinating some HTS would be a good way to keep them from being sniped or EMPd. Any reasons not to do this?

Thats a really good idea, dont know why protosses dont do that :o actually vs zerg hallucinated lossus are really annoying aswell vs corrupters.


Because the Terran will always scan ahead of his army? Just watch that replay and see how many times Puma scans. The second he sees one hallucination, you think he won't scan before he goes in to snipe?

Not to mention you need energy to hallucinate also need to FF, and EMP makes it difficult to do either.
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
October 04 2011 06:08 GMT
#3266
On October 04 2011 15:07 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 15:06 KillerSOS wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:05 Tewks44 wrote:
I think as the meta-game evolves we're gonna see hallucination used a lot more. Just imagine with a handful of sentires you can trick terran into thinking you're running a bunch of zealots into his bio = emp wasted on hallucinated zealots.


do you know how much energy it costs to use hillu?



I'd rather use energy on hallucinations to waste EMPs than have EMPs land on my sentries and make them useless anyway.


It's a cute idea, except terran has this nifty thing they randomly use a lot called "scan"
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 06:10:06
October 04 2011 06:09 GMT
#3267
On October 04 2011 15:07 Tump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 15:05 Tewks44 wrote:
I think as the meta-game evolves we're gonna see hallucination used a lot more. Just imagine with a handful of sentires you can trick terran into thinking you're running a bunch of zealots into his bio = emp wasted on hallucinated zealots.

Waste, especially when Terran is constantly scanning you to get EMPs and Snipes, and stopping Templar trying to get Feedbacks.

Even then, it's still a waste. You can use micro and/or warp prism to protect against EMPs. Hasu didn't lose that game because of a micro war...he lost it because he was far behind.

My midgame sure could use more CONSTANT SCANNING to prevent hallucinations!
I dont know why Terrans ever lose to DTs what with all the CONSTANT SCANNING!
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
October 04 2011 06:09 GMT
#3268
Ghosts vs Colossus ;o

Hasu has a chance!
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
October 04 2011 06:09 GMT
#3269
On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:
i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.png

I mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before.


The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match.

Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.-


Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 04 2011 06:10 GMT
#3270
Sick Commentating Timing Attack
twitch.tv/medrea
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
October 04 2011 06:10 GMT
#3271
nice move by hasu
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
October 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#3272
The DeMusliM vs IdrA thing was quite different and was explained in details.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
October 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#3273
Sick reaction by hasu!!
Chicken gank op
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
October 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#3274
nice, Hasu looking good
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#3275
On October 04 2011 15:09 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 15:04 dormer wrote:
On October 04 2011 15:00 samd wrote:
i dont understand why people aren't even considering the possibility that puma threw the games. I mean I don't 100% believe it but I could see it happening. Puma doesn't gain anything from winning. EG gets tons of publicity from their most talked about and famous player winning. Idra hasn't put together a good result in a while. And then there's this tweet: http://i.imgur.com/ssWYE.png

I mean it probably was legitimate games, but to instantly cuss out those raising questions is ignorant. This type of thing has happened in esports tons of times before.


The reason people cuss out those raising questions is that it's a pretty serious accusation. If players are fixing matches, then there goes the credibility of the sport. That isn't something you should just throw around when someone pulls off an upset or when one player looks worse than you'd expect them to. If there's evidence, if there's a pattern, if there's anything substantial, then sure. But just saying "Puma didn't look good against Idra, must have thrown the match on purpose" is pretty awful in my opinion. That's actually a big deal, this is supposed to be a real competition, not a professional wrestling match.

Edit @ the tweet: probably just a tweet :-p Hopefully. If you think he's serious about that, then sure, discuss it, I just get frustrated when some people talk about match fixing so casually -.-


Upsets happen, but especially when the same thing happened with demuslim vs idra only a few weeks ago, it raises questions.


Demuslim did throw those games. He found out during the series with idra that the tournament was at a time he could not make so he threw the series away.
When I think of something else, something will go here
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
October 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#3276
Nice defense by Hasu
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
October 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#3277
Hasu's got this!
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
October 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#3278
You can do this Hasu!
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 06:12:00
October 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#3279
The game is only balanced when Terran loses. Build order win for hasuu.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
October 04 2011 06:11 GMT
#3280
Hasu is in a good position right now. Ghost timings like that are part of why the gateway/templar style is failing hard nowadays.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
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