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On October 02 2011 15:58 GenoZStriker wrote: Elfi 4-0 (6-0) +6 Idra 1-2 (3-4) -1 Jim 1-2 (2-4) -2 Jinro 1-2 (2-5) -3
ESL usually resolves three-way ties with map differences.
even 4-0 for elfi, nice :D
OT: I am sorry for Jinro, would have loved to see him advance
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On October 02 2011 15:56 Malinor wrote: This game reminds me of one MLG final back in 2010 between Idra and Select. Idra roflstomped Select like he was a low level pro, and Select said in the post-game interview that there were simply no good zergs on NA to train against and that he did just not know any timings of Idra (Idra still living in Korea back then). The way Jim is playing this series looks pretty similar. His strats were just so outdated, it seemed that he never faced a Zerg of this calibre before.
The alternative explanation would be that Jim is just bad, but at least he beat Jinro. Grats Idra for advancing.
His strats aren't really that outdated, just watch any PvZ since 1.4 hit. It's all back to basically the same old shit. Zergs are going roach/hydra/corruptor a lot and Protoss are trying to make a 3base deathball.
Game was basically over as soon as the stargate was scouted and consequently never going to get even a bit of damage done. Utterly untouched Zerg economy was always going to run rampant.
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Hydra/roach/corruptor is sooooo good omg
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On October 02 2011 15:58 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:57 MrSexington wrote: That's crazy, but what Rotterdam just said actually made sense.
Advance when 1-2 in the group? Crazy. well they can't eliminate all three guys with 1-2, can they? Every time a player in a four man group goes 0-3 or 3-0 this kind of thing happens not true, look at group a.
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On October 02 2011 15:59 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote: Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ
can''t believe Idra advances rofl How did the patch ruin PvZ? A barely noticeable fungal nerf ruined it, obviously! added five seconds to barracks, obviously....
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IMO map score is the worst way to decide ties... how are maps determined in iem? 1 veto and loser pick map?
head to head should be done and if it is all tied it should be a tie breaker
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On October 02 2011 15:59 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:58 GenoZStriker wrote: Elfi 4-0 (6-0) +6 Idra 1-2 (3-4) -1 Jim 1-2 (2-4) -2 Jinro 1-2 (2-5) -3
ESL usually resolves three-way ties with map differences. even 4-0 for elfi, nice :D OT: I am sorry for Jinro, would have loved to see him advance  XD sorry meant 3-0
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On October 02 2011 15:56 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:53 PieLieDie wrote:On October 02 2011 15:52 halvorg wrote: Elfi 2-0 Idra Elfi 2-0 Jinro Elfi 2-0 Jim
SUP thats impressive.. did he play undead in wc3? Nah he was Human IIRC.
Elfi was undead I think.
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Sometimes watching Idra makes me wonder if he tries to lose even when he's ahead just because he wants to show how "OP" P or T units are. For example attacking in to marines with mutas at MLG, and then not finishing off that nexus when he had ample opportunity to do so.
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On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote: Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ
can''t believe Idra advances rofl How did the patch ruin PvZ?
since ppl think roach hydra corrupter is the only way to play PvZ. suddenly, infestor ling, infestor broodlord are useless. And no1 plays muta anyway since idra says they are terrible... while every muta player in korea does pretty well vs toss
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On October 02 2011 15:58 Executor1 wrote: How the hell does idra advance, 2-0'd the worst player in the group and advances.
Sry jinro. Cant beleive jinro got 2-0'd by Jim, his TVP really really needs some work, while every other terran is smacking protoss's around left and right jinro just cant even seem to take a game off of one of them. Worst player beat Jinro...
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On October 02 2011 15:59 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote: Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ
can''t believe Idra advances rofl How did the patch ruin PvZ? A barely noticeable fungal nerf ruined it, obviously!
Apparently lol, just ask Dimaga or stephano what they think lol, it wasn't even that big of a deal since didn't some people measure it takes the same amount of chained fungals to kill almost everything accept marines?
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On October 02 2011 15:59 iamke55 wrote: Hydra/roach/corruptor is sooooo good omg Idra also has sick ZvP judging from that match!
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On October 02 2011 15:57 Rokevo wrote: I'm happy IdrA advances, but he really needs to change his ZvP
For the love of God, yes.....
1). Hydras should only be used against double stargate (not one) and should be stopped when Colossus come out
2). Stop engaging into forcefields and chokes... seriously, IdrA is awesome but he has some of the worst army-engagements of all time... and he continues to engage that way and lose armies.
3). Dat nexus.... kill it!!!!
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On October 02 2011 15:58 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:57 HolydaKing wrote:On October 02 2011 15:56 DoomsVille wrote:On October 02 2011 15:53 PieLieDie wrote:On October 02 2011 15:52 halvorg wrote: Elfi 2-0 Idra Elfi 2-0 Jinro Elfi 2-0 Jim
SUP thats impressive.. did he play undead in wc3? Nah he was Human IIRC. undead. definitely. Confirmed Undead...How dare someone accuse Elfi of playing Human! :p Clearly I'm not remembering correctly rofl.
Although it makes sense, don't remember because I can't remember his matches because he was always eliminated in the first round by some random orc lol
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On October 02 2011 16:00 DiaBoLuS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote: Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ
can''t believe Idra advances rofl How did the patch ruin PvZ? since ppl think roach hydra corrupter is the only way to play PvZ. suddenly, infestor ling, infestor broodlord are useless. And no1 plays muta anyway since idra says they are terrible... while every muta player in korea does pretty well vs toss 
I know lol, didn't DRG roflstomp Yonghwa with infested terrans? Infesters have other spells than fungal, and broodlords are still insanely good.
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On October 02 2011 16:00 Mainland wrote: Sometimes watching Idra makes me wonder if he tries to lose even when he's ahead just because he wants to show how "OP" P or T units are. For example attacking in to marines with mutas at MLG, and then not finishing off that nexus when he had ample opportunity to do so.
I've thought for a while that he just knows he's so far ahead that he "should" win. So he wants to make a unit now that will allow him to simply attack move into his opponents, maybe using sooome micro. His problem is he wants hydras to be that unit, but long ago protoss figured out they can actually just micro against hydras off of creep and they're a joke.
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On October 02 2011 15:59 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:59 Daralii wrote:On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote: Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ
can''t believe Idra advances rofl How did the patch ruin PvZ? A barely noticeable fungal nerf ruined it, obviously! added five seconds to barracks, obviously.... as well as mothership and immortals dancing on both sky and ground. That game showed it all man.
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I didn't think Jim played THAT bad that game. He was getting the right units, he was expanding the right way, he just didn't have macro as good as idra did, made some control mistakes, and worse of all for me, he didn't build enough cannons. Watching huk play that style you see lots of cannons and always has troops ready to stand the ground with cannons, units, and forcefields cutting up the attacking armies.He had the right idea.
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On October 02 2011 16:00 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:59 Daralii wrote:On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote: Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ
can''t believe Idra advances rofl How did the patch ruin PvZ? A barely noticeable fungal nerf ruined it, obviously! Apparently lol, just ask Dimaga or stephano what they think lol, it wasn't even that big of a deal since didn't the measure it takes the same amount of chained fungals to kill almost everything accept marines? I think it takes an extra fungal to kill anything armored, though that's hardly a big deal when you can pump out 10+ infestors at any given time and they all spawn with enough energy.
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