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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2614 Posts
October 02 2011 06:59 GMT
#1341
On October 02 2011 15:58 GenoZStriker wrote:
Elfi 4-0 (6-0) +6
Idra 1-2 (3-4) -1
Jim 1-2 (2-4) -2
Jinro 1-2 (2-5) -3

ESL usually resolves three-way ties with map differences.


even 4-0 for elfi, nice :D

OT:
I am sorry for Jinro, would have loved to see him advance
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 02 2011 06:59 GMT
#1342
On October 02 2011 15:56 Malinor wrote:
This game reminds me of one MLG final back in 2010 between Idra and Select. Idra roflstomped Select like he was a low level pro, and Select said in the post-game interview that there were simply no good zergs on NA to train against and that he did just not know any timings of Idra (Idra still living in Korea back then).
The way Jim is playing this series looks pretty similar. His strats were just so outdated, it seemed that he never faced a Zerg of this calibre before.

The alternative explanation would be that Jim is just bad, but at least he beat Jinro. Grats Idra for advancing.


His strats aren't really that outdated, just watch any PvZ since 1.4 hit. It's all back to basically the same old shit. Zergs are going roach/hydra/corruptor a lot and Protoss are trying to make a 3base deathball.

Game was basically over as soon as the stargate was scouted and consequently never going to get even a bit of damage done. Utterly untouched Zerg economy was always going to run rampant.
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
October 02 2011 06:59 GMT
#1343
Hydra/roach/corruptor is sooooo good omg
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
October 02 2011 06:59 GMT
#1344
On October 02 2011 15:58 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:57 MrSexington wrote:
That's crazy, but what Rotterdam just said actually made sense.

Advance when 1-2 in the group? Crazy.

well they can't eliminate all three guys with 1-2, can they?
Every time a player in a four man group goes 0-3 or 3-0 this kind of thing happens

not true, look at group a.
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 02 2011 06:59 GMT
#1345
On October 02 2011 15:59 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote:
Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ

can''t believe Idra advances rofl


How did the patch ruin PvZ?

A barely noticeable fungal nerf ruined it, obviously!

added five seconds to barracks, obviously....
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
October 02 2011 06:59 GMT
#1346
IMO map score is the worst way to decide ties... how are maps determined in iem? 1 veto and loser pick map?

head to head should be done and if it is all tied it should be a tie breaker
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
October 02 2011 07:00 GMT
#1347
On October 02 2011 15:59 chrisolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:58 GenoZStriker wrote:
Elfi 4-0 (6-0) +6
Idra 1-2 (3-4) -1
Jim 1-2 (2-4) -2
Jinro 1-2 (2-5) -3

ESL usually resolves three-way ties with map differences.


even 4-0 for elfi, nice :D

OT:
I am sorry for Jinro, would have loved to see him advance

XD sorry meant 3-0
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
October 02 2011 07:00 GMT
#1348
On October 02 2011 15:56 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:53 PieLieDie wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:52 halvorg wrote:
Elfi 2-0 Idra
Elfi 2-0 Jinro
Elfi 2-0 Jim

SUP


thats impressive.. did he play undead in wc3?

Nah he was Human IIRC.


Elfi was undead I think.
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
October 02 2011 07:00 GMT
#1349
Sometimes watching Idra makes me wonder if he tries to lose even when he's ahead just because he wants to show how "OP" P or T units are. For example attacking in to marines with mutas at MLG, and then not finishing off that nexus when he had ample opportunity to do so.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
October 02 2011 07:00 GMT
#1350
On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote:
Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ

can''t believe Idra advances rofl


How did the patch ruin PvZ?



since ppl think roach hydra corrupter is the only way to play PvZ. suddenly, infestor ling, infestor broodlord are useless. And no1 plays muta anyway since idra says they are terrible... while every muta player in korea does pretty well vs toss
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trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
October 02 2011 07:00 GMT
#1351
On October 02 2011 15:58 Executor1 wrote:
How the hell does idra advance, 2-0'd the worst player in the group and advances.

Sry jinro. Cant beleive jinro got 2-0'd by Jim, his TVP really really needs some work, while every other terran is smacking protoss's around left and right jinro just cant even seem to take a game off of one of them.

Worst player beat Jinro...
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 07:02:25
October 02 2011 07:00 GMT
#1352
On October 02 2011 15:59 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote:
Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ

can''t believe Idra advances rofl


How did the patch ruin PvZ?

A barely noticeable fungal nerf ruined it, obviously!


Apparently lol, just ask Dimaga or stephano what they think lol, it wasn't even that big of a deal since didn't some people measure it takes the same amount of chained fungals to kill almost everything accept marines?
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
October 02 2011 07:00 GMT
#1353
On October 02 2011 15:59 iamke55 wrote:
Hydra/roach/corruptor is sooooo good omg

Idra also has sick ZvP judging from that match!
eNigma627
Profile Joined December 2010
United States51 Posts
October 02 2011 07:00 GMT
#1354
On October 02 2011 15:57 Rokevo wrote:
I'm happy IdrA advances, but he really needs to change his ZvP


For the love of God, yes.....

1). Hydras should only be used against double stargate (not one) and should be stopped when Colossus come out

2). Stop engaging into forcefields and chokes... seriously, IdrA is awesome but he has some of the worst army-engagements of all time... and he continues to engage that way and lose armies.

3). Dat nexus.... kill it!!!!

DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 02 2011 07:01 GMT
#1355
On October 02 2011 15:58 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:57 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:56 DoomsVille wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:53 PieLieDie wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:52 halvorg wrote:
Elfi 2-0 Idra
Elfi 2-0 Jinro
Elfi 2-0 Jim

SUP


thats impressive.. did he play undead in wc3?

Nah he was Human IIRC.

undead. definitely.


Confirmed Undead...How dare someone accuse Elfi of playing Human! :p

Clearly I'm not remembering correctly rofl.

Although it makes sense, don't remember because I can't remember his matches because he was always eliminated in the first round by some random orc lol
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 02 2011 07:01 GMT
#1356
On October 02 2011 16:00 DiaBoLuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote:
Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ

can''t believe Idra advances rofl


How did the patch ruin PvZ?



since ppl think roach hydra corrupter is the only way to play PvZ. suddenly, infestor ling, infestor broodlord are useless. And no1 plays muta anyway since idra says they are terrible... while every muta player in korea does pretty well vs toss


I know lol, didn't DRG roflstomp Yonghwa with infested terrans? Infesters have other spells than fungal, and broodlords are still insanely good.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
October 02 2011 07:02 GMT
#1357
On October 02 2011 16:00 Mainland wrote:
Sometimes watching Idra makes me wonder if he tries to lose even when he's ahead just because he wants to show how "OP" P or T units are. For example attacking in to marines with mutas at MLG, and then not finishing off that nexus when he had ample opportunity to do so.


I've thought for a while that he just knows he's so far ahead that he "should" win. So he wants to make a unit now that will allow him to simply attack move into his opponents, maybe using sooome micro. His problem is he wants hydras to be that unit, but long ago protoss figured out they can actually just micro against hydras off of creep and they're a joke.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
October 02 2011 07:02 GMT
#1358
On October 02 2011 15:59 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:59 Daralii wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote:
Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ

can''t believe Idra advances rofl


How did the patch ruin PvZ?

A barely noticeable fungal nerf ruined it, obviously!

added five seconds to barracks, obviously....

as well as mothership and immortals dancing on both sky and ground. That game showed it all man.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 02 2011 07:02 GMT
#1359
I didn't think Jim played THAT bad that game. He was getting the right units, he was expanding the right way, he just didn't have macro as good as idra did, made some control mistakes, and worse of all for me, he didn't build enough cannons. Watching huk play that style you see lots of cannons and always has troops ready to stand the ground with cannons, units, and forcefields cutting up the attacking armies.He had the right idea.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 07:02 GMT
#1360
On October 02 2011 16:00 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:59 Daralii wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:58 Hierarch wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:54 Asha` wrote:
Terrible game zzzz. Patch ruined PvZ

can''t believe Idra advances rofl


How did the patch ruin PvZ?

A barely noticeable fungal nerf ruined it, obviously!


Apparently lol, just ask Dimaga or stephano what they think lol, it wasn't even that big of a deal since didn't the measure it takes the same amount of chained fungals to kill almost everything accept marines?

I think it takes an extra fungal to kill anything armored, though that's hardly a big deal when you can pump out 10+ infestors at any given time and they all spawn with enough energy.
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