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outerspace02
Profile Joined March 2011
United States136 Posts
October 02 2011 03:09 GMT
#341
tree hugger

no one cares
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 02 2011 03:09 GMT
#342
Idra sure as hell was not going roach hydra corruptor before he used mass infestors so i don't see why he is now. Roach hydra corruptor is countered by blink stalker, not colossus! At least go ling bane muta or ling bane infestor, but using a unit composition with 0 attacking potential is just not clever.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
October 02 2011 03:10 GMT
#343
On October 02 2011 12:08 Lunas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:06 ZeaL. wrote:
Idra seems to have this mindset that what he's doing is right and if the opponent does something that beats him, that opponent is abusing some OP unit.


Be quite with that shit. If you wanna see how a zerg handle that unit composition watch Dimaga vs JYP.Idra been average for months and Elfi been in a hot streak for the past month. The better player won.


Lol, wooosh.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
October 02 2011 03:10 GMT
#344
Idra needs to get his ass back to Korea ASAP -_-
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 02 2011 03:10 GMT
#345
On October 02 2011 12:07 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:07 Cyanocyst wrote:
Roach hydra, so obsolete.


IdrA's mindset from his recent interview went something like this:

Blizzard nerfed infestors.

Infestors are now shit.

I don't build shit units
.

Back to roach hydra.


There is a contradiction somewhere in there...
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
October 02 2011 03:10 GMT
#346
On October 02 2011 12:08 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:07 jmbthirteen wrote:
Now I know I have heard idra say over and over roaches and hydras suck, yet he maxes on them 2 games in a row...

He forced the hydras with mass phoenix

why no corruptor or infestor, both hardcounter phoenix and are good against colossus...
badog
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
October 02 2011 03:10 GMT
#347
On October 02 2011 12:08 Teim wrote:
Why does Idra still play Roach / Hydra / Corr? It hasn't worked for months. I don't understand. It's like hes resigned himself to lose the second he sees a Protoss.

I think IdrA's problem is really that. He literally thinks that his race is so bad that at a certain build has no possible way to be defeated so he just botches the whole game.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
October 02 2011 03:10 GMT
#348
On October 02 2011 12:09 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:08 tree.hugger wrote:
On October 02 2011 11:51 Executor1 wrote:
On October 02 2011 11:49 tree.hugger wrote:
Treehugger:
What distinguishes Protoss players of Elfi's style is their contradictory willingness to play both long defensive games, and aggressive timing games. IdrA's ZvP vulnerability has long been against the former.


Sup?

hahaha , yea you called it man. Your knowledge of the players and the current state of the game is impressive to say the least. I especially liked your article about the current state of protoss and MC.


Treehugger:
Elfi is one of those players who I keep expecting to start dropping off. He has a low APM Protoss style that more often then not relies upon surprise and unpredictability as opposed to sound theory.


On October 02 2011 12:05 tree.hugger wrote:
Now watch, Elfi is just going to go kill him.



Ballin'!


Patting yourself on the back for predicting IdrA is going to fall apart in a ZvP is like predicting the tide is going to come in.

That game had very little to do with Elfi and everything to do with IdrA.

Hahahahahaha, touché!
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babo213
Profile Joined January 2011
United States266 Posts
October 02 2011 03:10 GMT
#349
On October 02 2011 12:09 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:08 Teim wrote:
Why does Idra still play Roach / Hydra / Corr? It hasn't worked for months. I don't understand. It's like hes resigned himself to lose the second he sees a Protoss.

Its what people do in Korea. Losira uses it heavily, Nestea uses it some.


I'd say more koreans just do strong roach/ling pushes/all ins currently than trying to win with hydra/roach/corrupter
kurrysauce
Profile Joined October 2010
272 Posts
October 02 2011 03:10 GMT
#350
Okay , so for the rest of the day I'm gonna predict this is what's gonna happen to idra.

Play awesomely for the early - mid game making opponent's early rushes and attacks look like child's play.

Die flat out in the late game because he refuses to tech to broodlords.

Don't see how idra gonna make it out of this group if he continues to neglect T3 units.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
October 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#351
On October 02 2011 12:09 outerspace02 wrote:
tree hugger

no one cares

lol mad
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Miraju
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany235 Posts
October 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#352
such a waste of money for EG to send out idra to all tournaments he always goes down so fast...
best foreigner zerg? huh long time ago yea but now not even top10 :X
can you dig it, SUCKAAAAA?
duckTemplar
Profile Joined February 2011
United States209 Posts
October 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#353
We want to see Jinro
The first word Kerrigan said to Raynor was "...You Pig!", to Raynor's response "What? ... oh you're a psychic"
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#354
On October 02 2011 12:09 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:07 MosART wrote:
Idra is great against NA, but against EU/Korean he's below average.


He loses won games.
He loses late game vP.
He loses to Cheese.

But do not say he can't beat anyone not from NA. Because that is just dumb

when did he say idra cant beat anyone outside NA?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
October 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#355
no other esport guy i know has as bad of a mindset as idra, i bet a lot of us people saw idra as the favorite vs elfi
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 03:11:57
October 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#356
I don't really understand what people expected Idra to do against that build other then roach hydra corrupter. He never would have held off the huge 2 base push without roach/hydra.

Maybe he just had to tech to hive and get broods faster after defending. No matter what though Elfi forced roach hydra corrupter.
#1 Kwanro Fan
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 03:12:47
October 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#357
On October 02 2011 12:10 rpgalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:08 Aocowns wrote:
On October 02 2011 12:07 jmbthirteen wrote:
Now I know I have heard idra say over and over roaches and hydras suck, yet he maxes on them 2 games in a row...

He forced the hydras with mass phoenix

why no corruptor or infestor, both hardcounter phoenix and are good against colossus...


Corruptors are the hydras that can fly.

Edit: Also Infestors are hard countered by colossus.
Never make a hydralisk.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
October 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#358
On October 02 2011 12:11 duckTemplar wrote:
We want to see Jinro

Heck yea we want!
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#359
On October 02 2011 12:09 Micket wrote:
Idra sure as hell was not going roach hydra corruptor before he used mass infestors so i don't see why he is now. Roach hydra corruptor is countered by blink stalker, not colossus! At least go ling bane muta or ling bane infestor, but using a unit composition with 0 attacking potential is just not clever.


He was always going roach hydra corruptor before he got on the infestor train. His honeymoon with baneling drops was sweet, but short.
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
October 02 2011 03:12 GMT
#360
On October 02 2011 12:07 Termit wrote:
Just tuned in. Is it bo3 or just nbo1 in group stage?


bo3
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
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