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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#321
I mean Idra even says hydra's are bad yet he's making like 30 of them wtf....
When I think of something else, something will go here
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#322
On October 02 2011 11:51 Executor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 11:49 tree.hugger wrote:
Treehugger:
What distinguishes Protoss players of Elfi's style is their contradictory willingness to play both long defensive games, and aggressive timing games. IdrA's ZvP vulnerability has long been against the former.


Sup?

hahaha , yea you called it man. Your knowledge of the players and the current state of the game is impressive to say the least. I especially liked your article about the current state of protoss and MC.


Treehugger:
Elfi is one of those players who I keep expecting to start dropping off. He has a low APM Protoss style that more often then not relies upon surprise and unpredictability as opposed to sound theory.


On October 02 2011 12:05 tree.hugger wrote:
Now watch, Elfi is just going to go kill him.



Ballin'!
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27303 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#323
Really don't get Idra, he defends stupidly multitask-intensive all-ins/harass plays EXTREMELY solidly, then when ahead he just throws it away. Bizarre.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#324
On October 02 2011 12:07 jmbthirteen wrote:
Now I know I have heard idra say over and over roaches and hydras suck, yet he maxes on them 2 games in a row...

He forced the hydras with mass phoenix
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Geophagus
Profile Joined April 2011
67 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#325
Was going to stay up and watch the tourney, but Idra's playing like a dumbass
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#326
On October 02 2011 12:07 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:05 Condor Hero wrote:
if protoss pushes now, zerg just dies since no corruptors.

beep wrong. Corruptors made no fuckin difference

well you need more than like 5 to deal with 3 colossus with a massive ball of stalkers
Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 03:11:10
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#327
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#328
Yeah, that was stupid. Terrible unit comp, he handled the harras so well, Idra's multi-tasking is still absolutely insane, just playing terrible unit comps.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
Kappa09
Profile Joined January 2011
United States149 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#329
Have you guys noticed that IdrA makes people famous when they beat him. I think we have to start realizing that IdrA just isn't that good though...
Teim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia373 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#330
Why does Idra still play Roach / Hydra / Corr? It hasn't worked for months. I don't understand. It's like hes resigned himself to lose the second he sees a Protoss.
A duck is a duck!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#331
On October 02 2011 12:06 ZeaL. wrote:
Idra seems to have this mindset that what he's doing is right and if the opponent does something that beats him, that opponent is abusing some OP unit.

He's been that way since BW, and he's been very vocal about it. It's annoying and fosters a really hateful group of people, but I doubt he'll change any time soon.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#332
On October 02 2011 12:07 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:05 Condor Hero wrote:
if protoss pushes now, zerg just dies since no corruptors.

beep wrong. Corruptors made no fuckin difference

If you let all your hydras die then attack with them: no it won't
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
October 02 2011 03:08 GMT
#333
On October 02 2011 12:07 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:06 SafeAsCheese wrote:
stalkers easily deal with hydra, they are shit lol

Blink stalkers with solid micro and support come out relatively even against hydras in equal numbers. In what world does that constitute easily dealing with them?


With solid blink micro, stalkers greatly beat equal numbers of hydra

With poor blink it's a close battle as long as theres no concave, lol.
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
October 02 2011 03:09 GMT
#334
Idra loses one drone to the harass and then proceeds to lose. Interesting game, so much harass from Elfi.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
October 02 2011 03:09 GMT
#335
On October 02 2011 12:07 MosART wrote:
Idra is great against NA, but against EU/Korean he's below average.


He loses won games.
He loses late game vP.
He loses to Cheese.

But do not say he can't beat anyone not from NA. Because that is just dumb
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
October 02 2011 03:09 GMT
#336
On October 02 2011 12:08 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 11:51 Executor1 wrote:
On October 02 2011 11:49 tree.hugger wrote:
Treehugger:
What distinguishes Protoss players of Elfi's style is their contradictory willingness to play both long defensive games, and aggressive timing games. IdrA's ZvP vulnerability has long been against the former.


Sup?

hahaha , yea you called it man. Your knowledge of the players and the current state of the game is impressive to say the least. I especially liked your article about the current state of protoss and MC.


Show nested quote +
Treehugger:
Elfi is one of those players who I keep expecting to start dropping off. He has a low APM Protoss style that more often then not relies upon surprise and unpredictability as opposed to sound theory.


Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:05 tree.hugger wrote:
Now watch, Elfi is just going to go kill him.



Ballin'!


Patting yourself on the back for predicting IdrA is going to fall apart in a ZvP is like predicting the tide is going to come in.

That game had very little to do with Elfi and everything to do with IdrA.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
October 02 2011 03:09 GMT
#337
Hi i just arrived from a busy day , i missed most of yesterdays stream too..can someone give me a full update of whats going on ? OP isnt updated
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 02 2011 03:09 GMT
#338
On October 02 2011 12:08 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 11:51 Executor1 wrote:
On October 02 2011 11:49 tree.hugger wrote:
Treehugger:
What distinguishes Protoss players of Elfi's style is their contradictory willingness to play both long defensive games, and aggressive timing games. IdrA's ZvP vulnerability has long been against the former.


Sup?

hahaha , yea you called it man. Your knowledge of the players and the current state of the game is impressive to say the least. I especially liked your article about the current state of protoss and MC.


Show nested quote +
Treehugger:
Elfi is one of those players who I keep expecting to start dropping off. He has a low APM Protoss style that more often then not relies upon surprise and unpredictability as opposed to sound theory.


Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:05 tree.hugger wrote:
Now watch, Elfi is just going to go kill him.



Ballin'!

You're really loving this aren't you? So cute >.<
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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
October 02 2011 03:09 GMT
#339
On October 02 2011 12:08 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 12:07 jmbthirteen wrote:
Now I know I have heard idra say over and over roaches and hydras suck, yet he maxes on them 2 games in a row...

He forced the hydras with mass phoenix


I think he would have been fine with mass spores and roaches. He could have stopped the third with pure roach.
Never make a hydralisk.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 03:11:10
October 02 2011 03:09 GMT
#340
On October 02 2011 12:08 Teim wrote:
Why does Idra still play Roach / Hydra / Corr? It hasn't worked for months. I don't understand. It's like hes resigned himself to lose the second he sees a Protoss.

Its what people do in Korea. Losira uses it heavily, Nestea uses it some.


Wow 500 post, fml.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
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