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makk
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom132 Posts
September 29 2011 13:03 GMT
#2381
lol I stopped watching after clide won.. big mistake
TimeFlighT
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia257 Posts
September 29 2011 13:03 GMT
#2382
On September 29 2011 22:02 synergy_sin wrote:
I'm still in shock man...

Seeing Creator so emotional and happy and proud makes me realize just how dedicated he is to the game and to succeeding.

What a powerful image to end that cast on. This has been one of my favorite days of Starcraft II ever!



he actually stated that he didn't practice much for this game vs TSL due to school.


imagine when creator plays sc2 full-time. scary.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 13:05:44
September 29 2011 13:04 GMT
#2383
On September 29 2011 21:56 dartoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 21:52 Storm_Rider wrote:
I wanted TSL to win the tournament but I'm happy for Prime. Great series..gotta love the GSTL.



Yeah me too, I wanted TSL to go through and take the tourney, but seeing all the emotion on creators face made me happy they won too. next time tsl! Creator is 13 years old o.0 and family issues aswell, I hope he does well.


Same here as well, I'm a big TSL fan and was cheering for them pretty hard, but seeing how happy Prime was after winning ... well I just can't be mad at them.

I'm really happy for Creator as well, this may very well be the happiest day of his life. ^^
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
September 29 2011 13:04 GMT
#2384
On September 29 2011 22:03 TimeFlighT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 22:02 synergy_sin wrote:
I'm still in shock man...

Seeing Creator so emotional and happy and proud makes me realize just how dedicated he is to the game and to succeeding.

What a powerful image to end that cast on. This has been one of my favorite days of Starcraft II ever!



he actually stated that he didn't practice much for this game vs TSL due to school.


imagine when creator plays sc2 full-time. scary.

They just translated wrong (as Gom's translators tend to do very often). He said he didn't appear in the GSTL before today because he was busy with school BACK THEN and he wasn't as good as he is now. He practiced for today's matches.
KuRiCobbY
Profile Joined September 2011
37 Posts
September 29 2011 13:05 GMT
#2385
On September 29 2011 21:56 adrift wrote:
im not complaining that we got to see a macro game..

but its just silly to pick crossfire and then not do an all-in. everyone knows that map is ridiculous for forcefield + aoe if you let the protoss get to that point. if you want to play a macro game pick a different map



Didn't Tails hold off MVP's 1/1/1 on Crossfire?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 29 2011 13:05 GMT
#2386
That he did.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
September 29 2011 13:05 GMT
#2387
On September 29 2011 22:05 KuRiCobbY wrote:
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On September 29 2011 21:56 adrift wrote:
im not complaining that we got to see a macro game..

but its just silly to pick crossfire and then not do an all-in. everyone knows that map is ridiculous for forcefield + aoe if you let the protoss get to that point. if you want to play a macro game pick a different map



Didn't Tails hold off MVP's 1/1/1 on Crossfire?


Yep. Turns out Immortals are good now.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
September 29 2011 13:06 GMT
#2388
On September 29 2011 22:02 Xkalibert wrote:
sc2 players playing Brood war
http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=apink&no=320170&page=1&bbs=


I lol'ed
gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
September 29 2011 13:06 GMT
#2389
who really shone today? its JYP and Creator, so

STOP WHINING! PROTOSS IS NOT UNDERPOWERED OK???
Make Love Not War
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
September 29 2011 13:07 GMT
#2390
On September 29 2011 22:06 gengka wrote:
who really shone today? its JYP and Creator, so

STOP WHINING! PROTOSS IS NOT UNDERPOWERED OK???


With that logic i could point at every code s ro32 group and say protoss is in fact up. The sample size from just a few games is too small to draw any conclusions.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
September 29 2011 13:08 GMT
#2391
On September 29 2011 22:06 gengka wrote:
who really shone today? its JYP and Creator, so

STOP WHINING! PROTOSS IS NOT UNDERPOWERED OK???
Annyung and BBoongBBoong played awfully, and 3 Terrans were too stupid to figure out that Creator does the same build over and over and is ridiculously weak early game because its so greedy.
#freeshauni
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
September 29 2011 13:08 GMT
#2392
If only this was the finals.
7 protoss wins in one day, not bad.
Fnatic - TSM - EG
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
September 29 2011 13:09 GMT
#2393
Some good games tonight. I wanted TSL to win though. Especially after JYP's performance, I thought they had it in the bag, oh well.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 29 2011 13:10 GMT
#2394
On September 29 2011 22:08 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 22:06 gengka wrote:
who really shone today? its JYP and Creator, so

STOP WHINING! PROTOSS IS NOT UNDERPOWERED OK???
Annyung and BBoongBBoong played awfully, and 3 Terrans were too stupid to figure out that Creator does the same build over and over and is ridiculously weak early game because its so greedy.


So basically everybody is bad and stupid except people on TL forums.

Standard.
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
September 29 2011 13:10 GMT
#2395
On September 29 2011 22:06 gengka wrote:
who really shone today? its JYP and Creator, so

STOP WHINING! PROTOSS IS NOT UNDERPOWERED OK???


Yeah, that dicussion is not going to end for a while..
Fnatic - TSM - EG
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
September 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#2396
That was undeniably one of the finest performances by any player in the GSTL. Down 4 games to 1, proceeds to rip apart some of the best that TSL had to offer to bring the series to Prime. Way to go, Creator! If this kid does not get a fan club before I wake up tomorrow, I am going to make him one -_-
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
September 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#2397
On September 29 2011 22:10 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 22:08 Elem wrote:
On September 29 2011 22:06 gengka wrote:
who really shone today? its JYP and Creator, so

STOP WHINING! PROTOSS IS NOT UNDERPOWERED OK???
Annyung and BBoongBBoong played awfully, and 3 Terrans were too stupid to figure out that Creator does the same build over and over and is ridiculously weak early game because its so greedy.


So basically everybody is bad and stupid except people on TL forums.

Standard.
Well no, not really. But in this case it is actually so. Anyone who isn't ridiculously biased will see this.
#freeshauni
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
September 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#2398
so Happy for Prime !!

i think they can take the whole thing now !!
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
September 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#2399
On September 29 2011 22:06 gengka wrote:
who really shone today? its JYP and Creator, so

STOP WHINING! PROTOSS IS NOT UNDERPOWERED OK???


May I notice that they didn't face a single really good vP player (except marineKing, that, coincendatley, won...).
Btw I would like to see a protoss convincely hold the 2 ghost push, because for now it wasn't the case (even the suboptimal Alive did could have done dmg).
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
September 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#2400
On September 29 2011 21:58 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 21:56 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 29 2011 21:52 Teoita wrote:
On September 29 2011 21:49 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 29 2011 21:47 Orpheusz wrote:
On September 29 2011 21:46 sleepingdog wrote:
So, I ask this again - why did all Korean protoss players back away from double forge colossus and start with chargelot/archon?

Double forge play is STILL so very unexplored and from all protoss PvT strategies I've ever seen this seems to have one of the highest win-%.


The timing alive hit right before 2-2 would've crushed it on any other map.


That's why I said "unexplored" - obviously it has to be played differently (colossus-timing-wise and council-timing-wise) on each map. But in the last few months korean protoss-players established the chargelot/archon metagame....which just seemed to have a terrible win-%


I remember when tyler first started trying double forge builds, he would not go colossus at all but instead get either fast storm or a third the moment his 2/2 got done, and only then he teched to colossus.
I think the strat if anything is even better with the immortal buff because you might even be able to delay colossi for a while and be fine vs 2-4 medivacs with just gateway+immortals.


I think fast upgrades immortals might prove to be just that vs a fast medivac play (immortals with upgrades deal damage way too quickly to allow for any out-healing) - vs fast ghosts though I think going colossus is fine.

I just don't understand why everyone backed away from double forge play so quickly. Tyler's opening is/was inefficient (3 gates + robo before expansion is too weak macro-wise, nobody does that anymore). But that aside, I always wondered why double forge went out of fashion without never seeming to get build order countered since you just don't go double forge after your observer confirms weird stuff. Creator showed in the last games that it - still..or again? - has great potential.


Yeah beats me, i can't figure out why people like zealot/archon better either. I think it might just have been a big over-reaction to the archon buff.


I am pretty sure it is because the korean metagame shifted to where Terrans went double starport (1 reactor one naked) off 2 base every time and Protoss felt like their colossus builds were no good at all. So they started to do all this zealot archon and fast ht stuff. But now every Terran goes fast ghost lol, and ghost counter archon/HT better than vikings counters Colossus. (Since ghosts good vs everything pretty much and the control war is actually easier to protect Colossus from vikings than to dodge emps I think.) Combine that with resurgence of 1-1-1 all-ins which punished all their "safe" middle of the road expands and PvT went completely to hell. I think that a LOT of stuff can just be figured out and maybe not everything is as imba as it seems. (Not saying I don't think 1-1-1 or ghosts are imba) Anyways thats my thoughts.
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