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Funtime is over, start behaving in here. You all know the rules and this isn't the place for some kind of comments or discussion. Keep it to the games and keep balance, the casters and meta discussions out of here.

Pretty please, with minerals on top.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45048 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 12:40:59
September 19 2011 12:40 GMT
#4781
SjoW

+ Show Spoiler +
!!!


Select

+ Show Spoiler +
!!!


MC

+ Show Spoiler +
x.x


+ Show Spoiler +
Man, I'm so happy for SjoW and Select... and sooooooo upset for my Protoss brother
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 12:42:10
September 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#4782
On September 19 2011 21:34 _vladimir_ wrote:
Wow, dont want to sound like hater, but whats with big hype that Sjow won, it was one of worst matches lately, and Maka would easily 2-0ed him if he didnt start prematurely BMing with mass gold expo in G2. That could be given away game from textbook, aka what not to do.
I mean, if Sjow fans are happy with how he played this match....dont know what to say which will not get me banned.
But hf in next round, vs some half serious opponent.
I bet you Curious won't make the same mistake Maka did today. He saw what happened when you underestimate your opponent.

You simply can't muck around against a player of Sjow's calibre, it'll get you killed and lose you the game. Maka had to learn that the hard way today.



edit: but please by all means, I encourage everyone to keep talking up the Koreans and keep talking down the non-Koreans, as long as it leads to Koreans underestimating and ending up losing kekekeke
ineq
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden376 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 12:43:35
September 19 2011 12:42 GMT
#4783
On September 19 2011 21:37 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 21:34 _vladimir_ wrote:
Wow, dont want to sound like hater, but whats with big hype that Sjow won, it was one of worst matches lately, and Maka would easily 2-0ed him if he didnt start prematurely BMing with mass gold expo in G2. That could be given away game from textbook, aka what not to do.
I mean, if Sjow fans are happy with how he played this match....dont know what to say which will not get me banned.
But hf in next round, vs some half serious opponent.


Woulda shoulda coulda. Why take this win away from SjoW? The first game he just fell apart to banshee harass, 2nd game his opponent though he was funny and SjoW told him no. 3rd game SjoW beat him straight up holding off an all-innish build and trying to play a macro game. I'm proud that he didn't fold under pressure and I don't particularly like him as a player. HF being negative about someones accomplishment.


If's and but's don't win you games.. Throwing away a games due to continous mistakes is way more embarassing than just beeing worse than your opponent.

SjoW might not be the best player, but SjoW sure is one of the more consistant foreigner names, and that deserves alot more respect that he is getting on this forum.

Edit; sorry qouted the wrong guy, show the nested one and it will make more sense.
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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
September 19 2011 12:44 GMT
#4784
On September 19 2011 21:37 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 21:35 Ammanas wrote:
for fucks sake, just ask him. Oh wait, you don't have to, someone already did. He said, he represents foreign scene, so yeah, SeleCT is foreigner. dealwithit.jpg

The same way that Huk Considers himself Korean yet ppl still call him the foreinger hope.
Funny how this works eh.


Where and when did Huk say that he represents korean scene?
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 19 2011 12:45 GMT
#4785
On September 19 2011 21:38 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 21:27 thepuppyassassin wrote:
People who take Select being a "foreigner" literally need to have their brain examined.

People who call any SC2 players "foreigners" are stupid. :p

Korea is an important location in the SC2 world, but it's not the only one. It's different from BW, so we shouldn't use outdated terminology (imo).

But it's a hard to break habit (especially because most of the popular commentators come from BW, keep using it and thus "teach" it to newcomers) so it keeps being used and accepted in the community despite my best efforts *sigh*.

Maybe if foreigners were on an even footing that would make sense but they aren't.
MrSweetNess
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia312 Posts
September 19 2011 12:45 GMT
#4786
On September 19 2011 21:37 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 21:34 _vladimir_ wrote:
Wow, dont want to sound like hater, but whats with big hype that Sjow won, it was one of worst matches lately, and Maka would easily 2-0ed him if he didnt start prematurely BMing with mass gold expo in G2. That could be given away game from textbook, aka what not to do.
I mean, if Sjow fans are happy with how he played this match....dont know what to say which will not get me banned.
But hf in next round, vs some half serious opponent.


Woulda shoulda coulda. Why take this win away from SjoW? The first game he just fell apart to banshee harass, 2nd game his opponent though he was funny and SjoW told him no. 3rd game SjoW beat him straight up holding off an all-innish build and trying to play a macro game. I'm proud that he didn't fold under pressure and I don't particularly like him as a player. HF being negative about someones accomplishment.


I don't think anyone is taking the win away from Sjow as much as saying that Maka lost it for himself.

I mean yea, Sjow managed to take advantage of Maka's overconfidence in game 2 and then won a pretty standard marine tank TvT because he had the smarts to take a hidden base and some pretty horrible marine micro from Maka.

Though the main thing is Maka had the game and series wrapped up and managed to piss it away. I don't think you can argue that Maka cost himself the loss in game 2.

Either way, well done Sjow and I hope Maka learns his lesson in getting too confident and comes back next code A ready play some great games.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 12:48:09
September 19 2011 12:45 GMT
#4787
To all the Sjow haters..... suck it up!!!

Did he play the most magnificent series? No.

Did he deserve to win? YOU BET HE DID!!!

The GSL is not about the "perfect game". It is about 2 players duking it out in a pressure cooker environment with the world watching. It leads to mistakes, but that is what makes it so fascinating!

If you want a "mistake free" long macro game, go and watch high level players on the ladder.

Is Sjow going to beat Curious? WHO CARES??? He earnt respect by coming to Korea and competing and getting it out of the ro32 and thus securing Code A by at least 1 more season! How many armchair pros are sitting on their lounge chairs saying that the GSL is so easy?
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 19 2011 12:47 GMT
#4788
People always talk shit about SjoW's play because it tends to look scrappy even when he wins, but he keeps placing high in tournaments.
betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
September 19 2011 12:51 GMT
#4789
I am so very happy for SjoW. I coudnt care less how other people think he didnt all in and won.

Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
September 19 2011 12:51 GMT
#4790
Maybe they're just angry that their superhero MC fell out of Code A, so they hate everything else in the world.

w.s
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden850 Posts
September 19 2011 12:51 GMT
#4791
Stop hating on sjow low, he won and that's all that matters.
You blaming mcs code B for being overconfident in picking mvp?
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 19 2011 12:55 GMT
#4792
would be hilarious if MC got himself back into code S via MLG straight away
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
September 19 2011 12:57 GMT
#4793
On September 19 2011 21:55 sleepingdog wrote:
would be hilarious if MC got himself back into code S via MLG straight away


True, but theres alot wrong with his play and protossplay in general atm. JYP only won that first game because JookTo screwed up again and again for example. Us toss just cant break terran and zerg anymore
KCCO!
djack0666
Profile Joined March 2011
Belarus219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 12:58:27
September 19 2011 12:57 GMT
#4794
never LOLed so much in my life!!!

MC to code B!!! He is now as low in GSL as he is humble. [which i find damn appropriate]

Good night [Suicide] Toss president, Rust In Peaces.
"... of wolf and man!"
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
September 19 2011 12:57 GMT
#4795
On September 19 2011 21:55 sleepingdog wrote:
would be hilarious if MC got himself back into code S via MLG straight away

Yeeeaaah that won't happen.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
September 19 2011 13:00 GMT
#4796
On September 19 2011 21:57 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 21:55 sleepingdog wrote:
would be hilarious if MC got himself back into code S via MLG straight away


True, but theres alot wrong with his play and protossplay in general atm. JYP only won that first game because JookTo screwed up again and again for example. Us toss just cant break terran and zerg anymore


You just love giving up don't you?
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 13:03:04
September 19 2011 13:01 GMT
#4797
On September 19 2011 21:45 MrSweetNess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 21:37 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 19 2011 21:34 _vladimir_ wrote:
Wow, dont want to sound like hater, but whats with big hype that Sjow won, it was one of worst matches lately, and Maka would easily 2-0ed him if he didnt start prematurely BMing with mass gold expo in G2. That could be given away game from textbook, aka what not to do.
I mean, if Sjow fans are happy with how he played this match....dont know what to say which will not get me banned.
But hf in next round, vs some half serious opponent.


Woulda shoulda coulda. Why take this win away from SjoW? The first game he just fell apart to banshee harass, 2nd game his opponent though he was funny and SjoW told him no. 3rd game SjoW beat him straight up holding off an all-innish build and trying to play a macro game. I'm proud that he didn't fold under pressure and I don't particularly like him as a player. HF being negative about someones accomplishment.


I don't think anyone is taking the win away from Sjow as much as saying that Maka lost it for himself.

I mean yea, Sjow managed to take advantage of Maka's overconfidence in game 2 and then won a pretty standard marine tank TvT because he had the smarts to take a hidden base and some pretty horrible marine micro from Maka.

Though the main thing is Maka had the game and series wrapped up and managed to piss it away. I don't think you can argue that Maka cost himself the loss in game 2.

Either way, well done Sjow and I hope Maka learns his lesson in getting too confident and comes back next code A ready play some great games.

What you never seen Maka play before? That's not overconfidence that's how Maka plays. He is not a top tier player by any means.
People seemed to forget that Makarax wasnt originally a hidden rax, it was a proxy barracks built in a location which will unavoidably get scouted.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
gehgrfhgrh
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany294 Posts
September 19 2011 13:03 GMT
#4798
No panic, MC will get his CodeS spot at Orlando.
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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 13:08:27
September 19 2011 13:04 GMT
#4799
On September 19 2011 21:45 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 21:38 Bobster wrote:
On September 19 2011 21:27 thepuppyassassin wrote:
People who take Select being a "foreigner" literally need to have their brain examined.

People who call any SC2 players "foreigners" are stupid. :p

Korea is an important location in the SC2 world, but it's not the only one. It's different from BW, so we shouldn't use outdated terminology (imo).

But it's a hard to break habit (especially because most of the popular commentators come from BW, keep using it and thus "teach" it to newcomers) so it keeps being used and accepted in the community despite my best efforts *sigh*.

Maybe if foreigners were on an even footing that would make sense but they aren't.

I disagree.

You can still make the distinction between Koreans and non-Koreans, but using "foreigners" for everyone outside Korea implies that the SC2 scene is "native" to Korea, and that's the thought I disagree with. The game has organised professional players all over the world.

You don't call Table Tennis players from all over the world foreigners compared to the Chinese, even though Chinese domination in that sport is higher than compared to Koreans/non-Koreans in SC2. That's because while the best players do come from China, the game is played professionally in many countries. (Unlike BW, which had a pro scene in one country only.)
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
September 19 2011 13:04 GMT
#4800
On September 19 2011 21:57 labbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 21:55 sleepingdog wrote:
would be hilarious if MC got himself back into code S via MLG straight away

Yeeeaaah that won't happen.


It's pretty dam possible
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