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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 17 2011 18:58 GMT
#7081
On September 18 2011 03:57 Pippi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:54 jedi1982 wrote:
Is Hailey single?


No =/ But that doesnt stop you right?


you kidding man? You better recognize, jedi1982 be pimpin at large, mackin at hunnies yknow what im sayin
memes are a dish best served dank
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
September 17 2011 18:58 GMT
#7082
Oh man, I love dreamhack, such a good song collection. Thanks for the guys who mentioned the song. Im getting it now on iTunes
RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 18:59:52
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#7083
On September 18 2011 03:57 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:55 RedDragon571 wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:53 Hammer442 wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:51 RedDragon571 wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:41 RedDragon571 wrote:
Omg, Apollo's criticism of Pro-players makes me cringe. Half the stuff he criticizes about DRG is just flat out wrong. I hope to hes not another gold league caster. :/, I've liked his stuff in the past but it seems hes trying too hard to make himself look knowledgeable about that game.


can you give an example? ive really enjoyed his commentary, and found his game knowledge to be more than satisfactory


He kept complaining about the bane speed timings, which were in fact fine. DRG vs Lucifron he was using a heavy ling muta counterattack style similar to zenex line, to get out more drones. Also you don't need that many banes if your already ahead. In the rain game, DRG saw a late seigemode, so bane speed wasn't a big deal and delaying it can get you a slightly better economy. The little things pro-players do add up. Also he kept complaining about heroes force fields and not using them when he actually used them all. I mean it just bothers me when he says that's a mistake, when there's legitimate reasons to do that. Besides pointing out player mistakes distracts from the energy of the game, and i think its more casters trying to inflate their own ego. It annoys me when tasteless and artosis point out mistakes which actually may not be. Just some opinion, good tourney so far! T v P dissapoints me tho :/

Wow you must have a hard time ever enjoying any games if you think that much about any small imperfections in what the casters say :\


nah i enjoy the games fine, but as somebody who really likes the competitve side of the game, the technical small things detract sometimes that's all. Just a slight annoyance. It just makes me sad to think, theirs gold league lil zergies out their thinking that if they don't get bane speed right away their idiots or something. I think casters miss out on some of the higher parts of high level play. It simplifies the game when they don't include them. Sorry but TB and apollo don't understand like day9 can or Idra or QXC, and wolf's pretty solid too.

you seem to be putting your viewpoint accross speaking as a very good zerg (or at least that you think youre a very good zerg, so what league are you in?


It shouldnt matter but I'm in masters zerg, :/ , I guess you'd have to be decent at zerg to see some of the finer points to DRG's play.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#7084
I wonder if Thorzain will pull out SlayerS style Medivacs against DRG.
/commercial
Ajsbear
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden63 Posts
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#7085
On September 18 2011 03:56 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:54 Ajsbear wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:41 ZaaaaaM wrote:
haha for the ones that dont check reddit thought this was pretty funny, piece from an interview with huk at DH
+ Show Spoiler +


I'm probably childish but I found this hilarious...

is there a full interview?


There is but only if you are a (paying) member of Aftonbladet site. http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/noje/article13636946.ab if you are.
The delicate touch of the viking flower doth take out the colossi - Artosis
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#7086
On September 18 2011 03:57 Racer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:54 Kira__ wrote:
swedens biggest newspaper currently have sc2 on their frontpage online, due to thorzain making the finals

Could you share the link?


http://www.aftonbladet.se/
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#7087
On September 18 2011 03:57 flowSthead wrote:
DRG's gonna be singing:
"All the other kids with the pumped stims
better run, better run, outrun my banes.
All the other kids with the sieged up tanks
better run, better run, faster than my mutas."


NICE!!

My only complaint is why do terran and zerg get all the good songs? No protoss love =(
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#7088
"I can't believe you just said no homo."

Hilarious.



Great tournament so far. I would've liked double elim (obviously), but the production is just so well done.


GO THORZAIN
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#7089
1 minute fellas!
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#7090
On September 18 2011 03:57 ODieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:56 kommunalka wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:55 ODieN wrote:
Anyone know why this wasn't a double elimination bracket?
Didn't they travel for this event? Single elimination is kind of meh, imo.



you are free to decline the invitation if you don't like the tourney rules.....

it is what it is....

Fair enough, thanks.


It's a very simple, short-and-sweet tournament. It's kind of known for that too. It contrasts many others. ::shrugs::

It's like that because that's how the directors want it to be.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
September 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#7091
On September 18 2011 03:57 flowSthead wrote:
DRG's gonna be singing:
"All the other kids with the pumped stims
better run, better run, outrun my banes.
All the other kids with the sieged up tanks
better run, better run, faster than my mutas."



We gotta get Tempo on this stat ^-^
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
September 17 2011 19:00 GMT
#7092
On September 18 2011 03:59 Ajsbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:56 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:54 Ajsbear wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:41 ZaaaaaM wrote:
haha for the ones that dont check reddit thought this was pretty funny, piece from an interview with huk at DH
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3dp_y2eh08&feature=colike


I'm probably childish but I found this hilarious...

is there a full interview?


There is but only if you are a (paying) member of Aftonbladet site. http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/noje/article13636946.ab if you are.

Oh dude thats such a bummer.
no dude, the question
Massing
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany354 Posts
September 17 2011 19:00 GMT
#7093
On September 18 2011 03:55 ODieN wrote:
Anyone know why this wasn't a double elimination bracket?
Didn't they travel for this event? Single elimination is kind of meh, imo.


the format is fine, its an oneday invitational with every series getting streamed and at first the viewers must enjoy the event not the players... so everything fine nothing to worry about
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
September 17 2011 19:00 GMT
#7094
On September 18 2011 03:58 RedDragon571 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:56 TheHova wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:51 RedDragon571 wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:41 RedDragon571 wrote:
Omg, Apollo's criticism of Pro-players makes me cringe. Half the stuff he criticizes about DRG is just flat out wrong. I hope to hes not another gold league caster. :/, I've liked his stuff in the past but it seems hes trying too hard to make himself look knowledgeable about that game.


can you give an example? ive really enjoyed his commentary, and found his game knowledge to be more than satisfactory


He kept complaining about the bane speed timings, which were in fact fine. DRG vs Lucifron he was using a heavy ling muta counterattack style similar to zenex line, to get out more drones. Also you don't need that many banes if your already ahead. In the rain game, DRG saw a late seigemode, so bane speed wasn't a big deal and delaying it can get you a slightly better economy. The little things pro-players do add up. Also he kept complaining about heroes force fields and not using them when he actually used them all. I mean it just bothers me when he says that's a mistake, when there's legitimate reasons to do that. Besides pointing out player mistakes distracts from the energy of the game, and i think its more casters trying to inflate their own ego. It annoys me when tasteless and artosis point out mistakes which actually may not be. Just some opinion, good tourney so far! T v P dissapoints me tho :/

err delayed seige means less money into tanks, which means more money into marines, so bane speed is MORE important when you see a delayed seige mode.


Nah dude, RedDragon571 knows more about these kind of things than Pro players who praise apollo for his knowledge and casting, who also used to be a decent Zerg player before becoming a caster. :p


source dat plz.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Apollo


From the first day of the beta Apollo played as Terran, his race in Brood War. He played all day every day until he moved back to Korea for the summer of 2010 to live with Tasteless. He spent his time there talking Starcraft 2 every day with Idra, Artosis and his roommate. Tasteless influenced Apollo to begin commentating and he applied for the position of Day 9s co-commentator at IEM Season V.



Apollo started out the release of the game playing Zerg, playing at a high level but never winning tournaments. He ultimately switched to Random to assist him in his casting.


marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 17 2011 19:00 GMT
#7095
Front page of Swedens biggest newspaper:

"Dream finals! The swede against the big favorite"

(literal translation is super favorite but didn't seem right)



(that's right I have sweden skills bitches)
memes are a dish best served dank
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
September 17 2011 19:00 GMT
#7096
well apollo won a WCG in some RTS afaik ?
and he mid/high masters.
duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
September 17 2011 19:00 GMT
#7097
seriously dApollo is one of the best casters in the business. I would say his game knowledge is actually better than artosis'. He's also really easy to listen to and is very good at keeping up with what's going on in the production tab, something I feel many casters have trouble with.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
September 17 2011 19:01 GMT
#7098
On September 18 2011 04:00 marttorn wrote:
Front page of Swedens biggest newspaper:

"Dream finals! The swede against the big favorite"

(literal translation is super favorite but didn't seem right)



(that's right I have sweden skills bitches)


Impressive..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
September 17 2011 19:01 GMT
#7099
On September 18 2011 03:59 Spacekyod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:57 flowSthead wrote:
DRG's gonna be singing:
"All the other kids with the pumped stims
better run, better run, outrun my banes.
All the other kids with the sieged up tanks
better run, better run, faster than my mutas."


NICE!!

My only complaint is why do terran and zerg get all the good songs? No protoss love =(


If HerO had won I was gonna do one for him, although any time there is some good blink micro you can just yell "EVERYDAY IM SHUFFLIN".
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
September 17 2011 19:01 GMT
#7100
On September 18 2011 03:37 soverRR wrote:
"Every terran same to me, easy peasy" xD


And that's why I love DRG. <3

Most Terrans *are* all the same too. They all want to do Hellions->10-11 minute Marine/Tank push. Mvp is the only baller I've seen recently that can really break that mold (with that ridiculous 3rd CC timing). I even fight that same style 9 out of 10 times on the ladder (hellions into a push that tries to beat mutas out).

You know why DRG crushes it every time though? Dat creep spread.
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