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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
September 17 2011 18:56 GMT
#7061
On September 18 2011 03:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:51 RedDragon571 wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:41 RedDragon571 wrote:
Omg, Apollo's criticism of Pro-players makes me cringe. Half the stuff he criticizes about DRG is just flat out wrong. I hope to hes not another gold league caster. :/, I've liked his stuff in the past but it seems hes trying too hard to make himself look knowledgeable about that game.


can you give an example? ive really enjoyed his commentary, and found his game knowledge to be more than satisfactory


He kept complaining about the bane speed timings, which were in fact fine. DRG vs Lucifron he was using a heavy ling muta counterattack style similar to zenex line, to get out more drones. Also you don't need that many banes if your already ahead. In the rain game, DRG saw a late seigemode, so bane speed wasn't a big deal and delaying it can get you a slightly better economy. The little things pro-players do add up. Also he kept complaining about heroes force fields and not using them when he actually used them all. I mean it just bothers me when he says that's a mistake, when there's legitimate reasons to do that. Besides pointing out player mistakes distracts from the energy of the game, and i think its more casters trying to inflate their own ego. It annoys me when tasteless and artosis point out mistakes which actually may not be. Just some opinion, good tourney so far! T v P dissapoints me tho :/

err delayed seige means less money into tanks, which means more money into marines, so bane speed is MORE important when you see a delayed seige mode.


Nah dude, RedDragon571 knows more about these kind of things than Pro players who praise apollo for his knowledge and casting, who also used to be a decent Zerg player before becoming a caster. :p
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 18:57:42
September 17 2011 18:56 GMT
#7062
On September 18 2011 03:56 Kage wrote:
Anyone know what is playing right now?


Foster The People...can't remember if that's the song name or band name. One of those two.

EDIT: It was the band name. Pumped Up Kicks is the song.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7063
On September 18 2011 03:56 kommunalka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:55 ODieN wrote:
Anyone know why this wasn't a double elimination bracket?
Didn't they travel for this event? Single elimination is kind of meh, imo.



you are free to decline the invitation if you don't like the tourney rules.....

it is what it is....

Fair enough, thanks.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 18:57:43
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7064
On September 18 2011 03:55 RedDragon571 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:53 Hammer442 wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:51 RedDragon571 wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:41 RedDragon571 wrote:
Omg, Apollo's criticism of Pro-players makes me cringe. Half the stuff he criticizes about DRG is just flat out wrong. I hope to hes not another gold league caster. :/, I've liked his stuff in the past but it seems hes trying too hard to make himself look knowledgeable about that game.


can you give an example? ive really enjoyed his commentary, and found his game knowledge to be more than satisfactory


He kept complaining about the bane speed timings, which were in fact fine. DRG vs Lucifron he was using a heavy ling muta counterattack style similar to zenex line, to get out more drones. Also you don't need that many banes if your already ahead. In the rain game, DRG saw a late seigemode, so bane speed wasn't a big deal and delaying it can get you a slightly better economy. The little things pro-players do add up. Also he kept complaining about heroes force fields and not using them when he actually used them all. I mean it just bothers me when he says that's a mistake, when there's legitimate reasons to do that. Besides pointing out player mistakes distracts from the energy of the game, and i think its more casters trying to inflate their own ego. It annoys me when tasteless and artosis point out mistakes which actually may not be. Just some opinion, good tourney so far! T v P dissapoints me tho :/

Wow you must have a hard time ever enjoying any games if you think that much about any small imperfections in what the casters say :\


nah i enjoy the games fine, but as somebody who really likes the competitve side of the game, the technical small things detract sometimes that's all. Just a slight annoyance. It just makes me sad to think, theirs gold league lil zergies out their thinking that if they don't get bane speed right away their idiots or something. I think casters miss out on some of the higher parts of high level play. It simplifies the game when they don't include them. Sorry but TB and apollo don't understand like day9 can or Idra or QXC, and wolf's pretty solid too.

you seem to be putting your viewpoint accross speaking as a very good zerg (or at least that you think youre a very good zerg, so what league are you in?
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7065
This music is so good.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7066
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7067
On September 18 2011 02:42 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 02:41 -y0shi- wrote:
Naniwa goes for "lesser" cheese because he doesnt want to play macro. Everyone gives him crap.

Then Hero the savior goes for the "complete" cheese, maybe people will accept it now...

hf with the rest, im out

DT complete cheese? I guess cloak Banshee is complete cheese too.


No its not, proving my point lol. When you go for DTs and it doesnt work youre probably dead. Hero only beat Idra because Idra didnt go for the killing blow.

A banshee will hardly go down if you know what youre doing it will almost always kill 2-3 probes and afterwards its a nice addition to your army and a constant thread. T can go banshee at little risk, just like hellions, low risk high reward :/
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7068
On September 18 2011 03:54 jedi1982 wrote:
Is Hailey single?


No =/ But that doesnt stop you right?
Toast and coffe
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7069
If Thorzain wins on the same day as OSL Final+ Show Spoiler +
JangBi
I will be a happy man ^^;
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7070
DRG's gonna be singing:
"All the other kids with the pumped stims
better run, better run, outrun my banes.
All the other kids with the sieged up tanks
better run, better run, faster than my mutas."
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Racer
Profile Joined May 2011
103 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7071
On September 18 2011 03:54 Kira__ wrote:
swedens biggest newspaper currently have sc2 on their frontpage online, due to thorzain making the finals

Could you share the link?
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7072
Yay! Pumped Up Kicks by Foster People!! Amazing song for an amazing event!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7073
Why am I listening to awesome music on a sc2 stream? Win.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46577 Posts
September 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#7074
On September 18 2011 03:54 Ajsbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:41 ZaaaaaM wrote:
haha for the ones that dont check reddit thought this was pretty funny, piece from an interview with huk at DH
+ Show Spoiler +


I'm probably childish but I found this hilarious...


Hahahaha "I can't believe you just said no homo..."

+ Show Spoiler +
Does that mean yes homo? Is TossGirl going to be jealous? Let the rumors fly... where were they after the first round? ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
September 17 2011 18:58 GMT
#7075
On September 18 2011 03:56 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:51 RedDragon571 wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On September 18 2011 03:41 RedDragon571 wrote:
Omg, Apollo's criticism of Pro-players makes me cringe. Half the stuff he criticizes about DRG is just flat out wrong. I hope to hes not another gold league caster. :/, I've liked his stuff in the past but it seems hes trying too hard to make himself look knowledgeable about that game.


can you give an example? ive really enjoyed his commentary, and found his game knowledge to be more than satisfactory


He kept complaining about the bane speed timings, which were in fact fine. DRG vs Lucifron he was using a heavy ling muta counterattack style similar to zenex line, to get out more drones. Also you don't need that many banes if your already ahead. In the rain game, DRG saw a late seigemode, so bane speed wasn't a big deal and delaying it can get you a slightly better economy. The little things pro-players do add up. Also he kept complaining about heroes force fields and not using them when he actually used them all. I mean it just bothers me when he says that's a mistake, when there's legitimate reasons to do that. Besides pointing out player mistakes distracts from the energy of the game, and i think its more casters trying to inflate their own ego. It annoys me when tasteless and artosis point out mistakes which actually may not be. Just some opinion, good tourney so far! T v P dissapoints me tho :/

err delayed seige means less money into tanks, which means more money into marines, so bane speed is MORE important when you see a delayed seige mode.


Nah dude, RedDragon571 knows more about these kind of things than Pro players who praise apollo for his knowledge and casting, who also used to be a decent Zerg player before becoming a caster. :p


source dat plz.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2975 Posts
September 17 2011 18:58 GMT
#7076
On September 18 2011 03:56 Bippzy wrote:
I think it's notable to say that thorzain got to the finals by playing his best matchup(TvP) and DRG got to the finals by playing his best matchup (ZvT)

Def think DRG got this, although thorzain looked impossible to beat so far.


Yeah DRG got this, he's still playing his best matchup while Thorzain's playing his worst TvZ. Should be a 3-0, I hate to sound like such a non-believer since Thorzain's my favorite player too, but it's the grim reality. Unless SlayerS (especially MMA) taught him a few things to help against Zerg and DRG.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 17 2011 18:58 GMT
#7077
On September 18 2011 03:55 ODieN wrote:
Anyone know why this wasn't a double elimination bracket?
Didn't they travel for this event? Single elimination is kind of meh, imo.


Because it's a 1-day event
Every event doesn't need to be a drawn out 3-day thing.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 17 2011 18:58 GMT
#7078
On September 18 2011 03:57 Pippi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:54 jedi1982 wrote:
Is Hailey single?


No =/ But that doesnt stop you right?

Who's Hailey? o_O
:D
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
September 17 2011 18:58 GMT
#7079
Let's hope Thorzain picked up a lot at his Slayers stay if not this is gonna be almost impossible
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
September 17 2011 18:58 GMT
#7080
Can we have the bubble pop video one more time please?
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