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On August 24 2011 21:58 Zeroxk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:48 kuroshiro wrote:On August 24 2011 21:43 Toadvine wrote:On August 24 2011 21:40 kuroshiro wrote:On August 24 2011 21:36 realstarcrafter wrote:On August 24 2011 21:30 eloist wrote:On August 24 2011 21:27 sleepingdog wrote:On August 24 2011 21:23 eloist wrote:On August 24 2011 21:21 branflakes14 wrote: Well, the players everyone wants to see in the finals are being knocked out while Terran overall continues to dominate.
Just another day at the GSL really. 8 out of 16 players advance. 2 out of 4 Protosses advanced (2 out of 3 against Terran). 1 out of 2 Zergs advanced (0 out of 1 against Terran). 5 out of 10 Terran players advanced. Point out the 'continued' domination please. Are you "really" counting Terrans losing in a MIRROR match? Ok, that's it for now, I can only handle so much stupidity on one day... What? All non TvT results add up to 50% as there were no mirror matches besides TvT. And you call me stupid for that? Count carefully...T won 3 games out of 5 in TvZ/P 3 out of 5? It's almost like their chances of winning are 50% and the discrete nature of win/loss numbers in a match of starcraft forced the eventual number in a very small sample set to land on the higher side! Call David Kim -- NERF STATISTICS T.T It's amazing how Terran win ratios in the GSL always tend to land on the "higher side". And that's with reasonably large samples from a whole month of Code A/S and GSTL. Different argument. I was just backing up the guy who was being called stupid by the guy calling people stupid whilst being stupid. Yes? :p MVP -- Optimus finals --> MVP champion (MVP and Optimus not afraid to 1-1-1 Huk and Genius out, respectively) MVP doesn't need to 1-1-1 Huk, remember their world championship games? (spawned an infamous top 3 control gif) do you remember how long ago that was? (like 50 years) HuK is so much better now.
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Though they don't get much street cred, I definitely think Keen and Ryung are major dark horses in this tournament.
I have to agree with the consensus, that a MVP v Optimus final appears most likely. However Keen and Ryung are at least proven in TvT and have a chance to "upset" the former champions.
Of course, MVP looks like he's back to his baller self, so I'm hard pressed looking beyond him. Still, dark horses can be surprisingly great to follow. Byun last season, Polt and Line in the Super Tournament and sC in the tournament before that.
I like watching the story of an underdog cause an upset.
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On August 24 2011 22:02 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:58 Zeroxk wrote:On August 24 2011 21:48 kuroshiro wrote:On August 24 2011 21:43 Toadvine wrote:On August 24 2011 21:40 kuroshiro wrote:On August 24 2011 21:36 realstarcrafter wrote:On August 24 2011 21:30 eloist wrote:On August 24 2011 21:27 sleepingdog wrote:On August 24 2011 21:23 eloist wrote:On August 24 2011 21:21 branflakes14 wrote: Well, the players everyone wants to see in the finals are being knocked out while Terran overall continues to dominate.
Just another day at the GSL really. 8 out of 16 players advance. 2 out of 4 Protosses advanced (2 out of 3 against Terran). 1 out of 2 Zergs advanced (0 out of 1 against Terran). 5 out of 10 Terran players advanced. Point out the 'continued' domination please. Are you "really" counting Terrans losing in a MIRROR match? Ok, that's it for now, I can only handle so much stupidity on one day... What? All non TvT results add up to 50% as there were no mirror matches besides TvT. And you call me stupid for that? Count carefully...T won 3 games out of 5 in TvZ/P 3 out of 5? It's almost like their chances of winning are 50% and the discrete nature of win/loss numbers in a match of starcraft forced the eventual number in a very small sample set to land on the higher side! Call David Kim -- NERF STATISTICS T.T It's amazing how Terran win ratios in the GSL always tend to land on the "higher side". And that's with reasonably large samples from a whole month of Code A/S and GSTL. Different argument. I was just backing up the guy who was being called stupid by the guy calling people stupid whilst being stupid. Yes? :p MVP -- Optimus finals --> MVP champion (MVP and Optimus not afraid to 1-1-1 Huk and Genius out, respectively) MVP doesn't need to 1-1-1 Huk, remember their world championship games? (spawned an infamous top 3 control gif) do you remember how long ago that was? (like 50 years) HuK is so much better now. It's not like HuK is the only one who got better in the past 50 years.
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Huk isn't that much better tbh, mvp is strong favourite.
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Hongun has very strong timing pushes. Even earlier pushes against these is SUCH a smart way to play.
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So for the 50% advance rate meaning the races are even, Next GSL the worst case scenario that was came up with for the round of 32 was
23T 5Z 4P (not quite sure if that is exact but it was close)
So if 11T, 3Z and 2P advance the game is in a state of balance right
60% of Zs advance 50% of Ps advance 47% of Ts advance
>.>, terrans would need a buff with those low advance rates in that situation
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Quintum_, I think you forget that since there were more terrrans, there were also more TvTs
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On August 24 2011 22:14 Quintum_ wrote: So for the 50% advance rate meaning the races are even, Next GSL the worst case scenario that was came up with for the round of 32 was
23T 5Z 4P (not quite sure if that is exact but it was close)
So if 11T, 3Z and 2P advance the game is in a state of balance right
60% of Zs advance 50% of Ps advance 47% of Ts advance
>.>, terrans would need a buff with those low advance rates in that situation
i hope your trolling. If not you should seriously re-consider what you just wrote down.
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Oh, July won 2-0, let me watch the GSL preview... «This is the part where I realize that 80% of TeamLiquid doesn't watch enough GSL, and sigh.»... Oh yeah, sure !
Playstyle and Ro32 wise, July had a clear advantage to me.
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Only way to beat Nestea is by cheese.
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On August 24 2011 22:20 Polskaa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 22:14 Quintum_ wrote: So for the 50% advance rate meaning the races are even, Next GSL the worst case scenario that was came up with for the round of 32 was
23T 5Z 4P (not quite sure if that is exact but it was close)
So if 11T, 3Z and 2P advance the game is in a state of balance right
60% of Zs advance 50% of Ps advance 47% of Ts advance
>.>, terrans would need a buff with those low advance rates in that situation i hope your trolling. If not you should seriously re-consider what you just wrote down.
There was 17T 8P and 7Z dude
Then 9T 4P and 3Z
Now 5T 2P 1Z
So actually the T are slighty over 50% P are 50% and Z slightly under 50%.
Then again these numbers mean nothing really. But your number we're as wrong as they could get (almost)
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July looking boss today
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July's games were VERY entertaining. :D
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Wooooow - what an amazing Day of games that was!
Really missed Tastosis though, cuz with MVP's insane Macro, Artosis would've totally been overjoyed, cuz it really reminded me of MVP's macro-style months ago, where he was just able to get out Command Centers roughly 2 times as fast as anyone else and win the game with his insane Macro.
DoA and Wolf didn't even mention that MVP had like 4 bases earlier than Nestea, that he cut off runbys to his 3rd with this one siege-tank and a few marines at one of the watchtowers etc. They just don't have such an amazing insight into the game as Artosis, but they're not bad I guess, just not to bash on them! ^^'
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On August 24 2011 22:25 Cuh wrote: Only way to beat Nestea is by cheese.
Err. MVP beat him in a macro game in the first set. So did MMA in the ro32.
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As long as July has found a decent way to deal with hellions, I think he's going to crush through Ryung into the semi's for an epic series vs MVP (sorry HuK, I don't see you beating him).
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On August 24 2011 22:25 Cuh wrote: Only way to beat Nestea is by cheese. On Bel'Shir? Maybe. But as I'm sure you noticed on Daybreak, macro games work pretty well too.
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On August 24 2011 22:27 Zorgaz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 22:20 Polskaa wrote:On August 24 2011 22:14 Quintum_ wrote: So for the 50% advance rate meaning the races are even, Next GSL the worst case scenario that was came up with for the round of 32 was
23T 5Z 4P (not quite sure if that is exact but it was close)
So if 11T, 3Z and 2P advance the game is in a state of balance right
60% of Zs advance 50% of Ps advance 47% of Ts advance
>.>, terrans would need a buff with those low advance rates in that situation i hope your trolling. If not you should seriously re-consider what you just wrote down. There was 17T 8P and 7Z dude Then 9T 4P and 3Z Now 5T 2P 1Z So actually the T are slighty over 50% P are 50% and Z slightly under 50%. Then again these numbers mean nothing really. But your number we're as wrong as they could get (almost)
Might want to read my post a little better
I was talking about a hypothetical NEXT season in the round of 32, not the current season.
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VODs are already up! Going to watch July roll HongUn like a scrub again :D
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HuK looks like a badass with that jersey. 1st game vs NaDa epic come from.....behind...I think :O
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