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theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
August 20 2011 16:26 GMT
#2241
finals are tomorrow. as for time im not sure
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Esel
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany151 Posts
August 20 2011 16:40 GMT
#2242
MC is such a fucking nerdballer
i like sc2 more than wc3 because of its mind games , in wc3 the only mind game you could do is go for a different hero than normal to make your opponent thing you are retarded
hegeo
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany194 Posts
August 20 2011 16:45 GMT
#2243
ESL.TV says finals at 17:30 CEST, 3rd place at 14:40 (but the IEM schedule isn't really reliable, so expect +30 to 60min ;-)
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
August 20 2011 16:46 GMT
#2244
a slightest idea when and where ra vs puma will be streamed?
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 16:48:01
August 20 2011 16:46 GMT
#2245
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


Being a decent BW pro is already a big accomplishment. MC can't even keep his head above water in BW league.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 20 2011 16:52 GMT
#2246
On August 21 2011 01:46 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


Being a decent BW pro is already a big accomplishment. MC can't even keep his head above water in BW league.

Broodwar achievements have no relevance here. At all. Be more subtle with your BW elitism.
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 16:54:33
August 20 2011 16:54 GMT
#2247
On August 21 2011 01:52 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:46 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


Being a decent BW pro is already a big accomplishment. MC can't even keep his head above water in BW league.

Broodwar achievements have no relevance here. At all. Be more subtle with your BW elitism.


It is relevent. And what's the point of being subtle on that?
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 20 2011 16:58 GMT
#2248
On August 21 2011 01:54 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:52 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:46 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


Being a decent BW pro is already a big accomplishment. MC can't even keep his head above water in BW league.

Broodwar achievements have no relevance here. At all. Be more subtle with your BW elitism.


It is relevent. And what's the point of being subtle on that?

Actually no it's completely irrelevant since they are completely different games. It's like saying Grubby has more accomplishments in WC3 so obviously he's accomplished than thorzain in sc2.
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
August 20 2011 16:59 GMT
#2249
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


That's like saying winning a GSL is "one win." Puma went through the OPEN BRACKET and rolled through the best that EU and NA have to offer, then crushed his way through the invited people in the pools, and ultimtately took down Min Chul.

If any NA player accomplished that feat I think he/she would automatically become one of the top 2 NA players, period. Has any NA player except IdrA ever even taken two games off of MC, much less won a Bo7?
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
August 20 2011 17:00 GMT
#2250
anyone else hyped as fuck for puma vs mc rematch? they produced one of the best series in sc2 history. you know mc wants some fucking revenge. why isn't anyone even talking about the finals?!?!?!?!
Laevateinn
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway115 Posts
August 20 2011 17:01 GMT
#2251
On August 21 2011 01:58 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:54 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:52 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:46 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


Being a decent BW pro is already a big accomplishment. MC can't even keep his head above water in BW league.

Broodwar achievements have no relevance here. At all. Be more subtle with your BW elitism.


It is relevent. And what's the point of being subtle on that?

Actually no it's completely irrelevant since they are completely different games. It's like saying Grubby has more accomplishments in WC3 so obviously he's accomplished than thorzain in sc2.

And yet, Grubby, Moon, Lyn etc. all get hyped into oblivion, why shouldn't Puma get the same treatment?
Saying BW skills have nothing to do with Starcraft 2 is just wrong.
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
August 20 2011 17:01 GMT
#2252
On August 21 2011 01:58 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:54 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:52 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:46 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


Being a decent BW pro is already a big accomplishment. MC can't even keep his head above water in BW league.

Broodwar achievements have no relevance here. At all. Be more subtle with your BW elitism.


It is relevent. And what's the point of being subtle on that?

Actually no it's completely irrelevant since they are completely different games. It's like saying Grubby has more accomplishments in WC3 so obviously he's accomplished than thorzain in sc2.


WC3 and SC2 are complete different games. SC and SC2 are not completely different games, SC2 is sequel of SC, in case you didn't notice.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 17:06:35
August 20 2011 17:04 GMT
#2253
On August 21 2011 02:01 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:58 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:54 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:52 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:46 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


Being a decent BW pro is already a big accomplishment. MC can't even keep his head above water in BW league.

Broodwar achievements have no relevance here. At all. Be more subtle with your BW elitism.


It is relevent. And what's the point of being subtle on that?

Actually no it's completely irrelevant since they are completely different games. It's like saying Grubby has more accomplishments in WC3 so obviously he's accomplished than thorzain in sc2.


WC3 and SC2 are complete different games. SC and SC2 are not completely different games, SC2 is sequel of SC, in case you didn't notice.

The three best sc2 players were horrible in sc1. Obviously there isn't a direct skill transfer and your BW achievements really say nothing about how well you're gonna do in SC2.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 20 2011 17:07 GMT
#2254
Well that went about as expected. NASL rematch incoming! Go Go Go MC/Puma!
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 20 2011 17:08 GMT
#2255
I don't really think their BW histories matter here, but saying Puma isn't accomplished because he's only one 1 major tournament is rubbish. That's like saying MKP, MMA, Polt, Bomber, Sen...etc aren't accomplished SC2 players because of their lack of major (single or multiple) wins. I think you're confusing the word accomplished with something else.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
August 20 2011 17:09 GMT
#2256
On August 21 2011 02:04 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:01 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:58 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:54 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:52 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:46 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


Being a decent BW pro is already a big accomplishment. MC can't even keep his head above water in BW league.

Broodwar achievements have no relevance here. At all. Be more subtle with your BW elitism.


It is relevent. And what's the point of being subtle on that?

Actually no it's completely irrelevant since they are completely different games. It's like saying Grubby has more accomplishments in WC3 so obviously he's accomplished than thorzain in sc2.


WC3 and SC2 are complete different games. SC and SC2 are not completely different games, SC2 is sequel of SC, in case you didn't notice.

The three best sc2 players were horrible in sc1. Obviously there isn't a direct skill transfer and you're BW achievements really say nothing about how well you're gonna do in SC2.


MVP and Nestea are not horrible, they are pretty decent. MVP sometimes play ACE match for his team. Nestea is very good 2v2 player. Only MC sucks. And most players better than MVP never came to SC2. In BW, July, boxer, and NADA are all worse than MVP in 2010.
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
August 20 2011 17:10 GMT
#2257
Just watched the replays and I must say wow those games weren't even close. Yet another tournament swept by a Korean.

Also I don't get why some people are downplaying Puma's accomplishments. They may not be as impressive as MC's but still in the terms of skill he's leagues ahead of the best foreigners so the finals should be pretty entertaining. And that's what matters most right? Stop being butthurt that your favourite player got knocked out and just enjoy the game.
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 20 2011 17:11 GMT
#2258
Mc's fist pump after dat pylon kill = complete sex.
liftlift > tsm
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 20 2011 17:12 GMT
#2259
On August 21 2011 02:09 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
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On August 21 2011 02:04 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 02:01 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:58 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:54 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:52 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:46 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:13 justinpal wrote:
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
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I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.


Being a decent BW pro is already a big accomplishment. MC can't even keep his head above water in BW league.

Broodwar achievements have no relevance here. At all. Be more subtle with your BW elitism.


It is relevent. And what's the point of being subtle on that?

Actually no it's completely irrelevant since they are completely different games. It's like saying Grubby has more accomplishments in WC3 so obviously he's accomplished than thorzain in sc2.


WC3 and SC2 are complete different games. SC and SC2 are not completely different games, SC2 is sequel of SC, in case you didn't notice.

The three best sc2 players were horrible in sc1. Obviously there isn't a direct skill transfer and you're BW achievements really say nothing about how well you're gonna do in SC2.


MVP and Nestea are not horrible, they are pretty decent. MVP sometimes play ACE match for his team. Nestea is very good 2v2 player. Only MC sucks. And most players better than MVP never came to SC2. In BW, July, boxer, and NADA are all worse than MVP in 2010.

34 percent winrate is pretty horrible. 2v2 surely doesn't have any relevance here. Sure maybe having some better broodwar experience could help but theres nothing to suggest it's really that much of a factor.
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
August 20 2011 17:15 GMT
#2260
Puma vs MC rematch!!! Excited, but kind of disappointing for the foreigners not being able to take even a single game off of them
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