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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 15:37:09
August 20 2011 15:36 GMT
#2221
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 20 2011 15:36 GMT
#2222
On August 21 2011 00:23 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 00:16 Coolwhip wrote:
Anyone else tuning out? I love MC but I'm a little bored of Korean vs Korean.


Nope, I love Korean vs Korean!


I don't care about Korean or not, I love awesome players playing each other and I don't like unskilled players playing each other.
Jomppa
Profile Joined July 2011
1225 Posts
August 20 2011 15:37 GMT
#2223
Anyone know if White-Ra vs Puma showmatch in 25 minutes is gonna be streamed?
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
August 20 2011 15:41 GMT
#2224
On August 20 2011 22:23 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:19 GreyKnight wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:18 Jinivus wrote:
I slept through the mana vs MC games, are they worth watching, at least as an MC fan?


If you're an MC fan why wouldn't you watch them lol.

But yeah game 1 was really great the other ones were pretty one sided imo.

One sided does not mean that they are not worth watching. Because they were not one sided because Mana played bad. Just MC played extremely well and there is a lot to learn from those games. Unlike Socke Mana did not defeat himself, MC defeated him.

EDIT: I mean that as complement for Mana not Socke. Mana made some questionable decisions, and his PvP is not on top Korean/HuK/Naniwa level, but he played well, Socke just killed himself.



I agree with this. Mana is a good toss but mc outplayed him. And even though puma did made some mistakes and did not play perfect as he usually did, Socke did not deserve to win at all.
I was watching some mana pvps yesterday and felt it would be quite a challegne for mc. But mc proved me wrong, I was quite impressed to mc's response to the gas steal because I personally find it very annonying when ppl do that to me.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 20 2011 15:43 GMT
#2225
-.- Wow I wake up wondering what scores they are and find that the semi's were something along the lines of "Koreans own white dudes"... at least we have a rematch of MC v Puma.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
August 20 2011 15:54 GMT
#2226
Ra versus Puma - do want! *_*
Xercen
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom375 Posts
August 20 2011 15:54 GMT
#2227
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.



well fo those who don't like watching korean vs korean sc2 games, you guys have the NASL!

gl with that
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
August 20 2011 15:56 GMT
#2228
Strelok vs Kas on the stage 2 stream.
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
August 20 2011 15:59 GMT
#2229
sigh where is whitera vs puma?
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
August 20 2011 16:01 GMT
#2230
Anyone know where when and if, white-ra vs puma will be shown?
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
August 20 2011 16:03 GMT
#2231
I want Ra vs Puma nwonownownownownonw
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 20 2011 16:06 GMT
#2232
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 20 2011 16:06 GMT
#2233
On August 21 2011 00:26 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.


A lot of people were probably rooting for _any_ foreigner and now that they're all out they don't care who wins.



Nope, was rooting for the Koreans. It irritated me how many clueless new posters registered just to claim that it's only the NA scene that's behind the Korean scene and the EU scene is almost equal. Nice to see MC and Puma club them back to their holes.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 20 2011 16:13 GMT
#2234
On August 21 2011 01:06 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 00:36 niteReloaded wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:23 Telcontar wrote:
What's wrong with KR vs KR as long it promises the best Starcraft possible? Would you not tune into Barca vs Real Madrid just because it's Spain vs Spain? or MVP vs Nestea? or Flash vs Jaedong? Maybe you guys are frustrated that the non-koreans flopped when push came to shove, but that shouldn't really deter you from tuning into a final with 2 worthy players.

Oh well, it's only your loss if you don't watch it.

I watch Barca vs Real but I don't watch Real vs Villareal, and that match would better describe the current situation.

3 Koreans came (Select doesn't count) to the event, 2 of them are in the finals.

MC is accomplished, but Puma isn't, so Barca vs Real analogy doesn't relate.

If MVP and Nestea came, and made the finals, I bet we wouldn't see as many people complaining about KvK finals. Sure you can argue that Puma is just as good but unaccomplished because of lack of luck, but you know yourself accomplishments have their weight in situations like this.

Puma isn't accompolished? I'll admit he hasn't really shown us what he can do in the GSL, but you should remember how frigging hard it is to just qualify for Code A. Even players like MMA, DRG, and Bomber had a very difficult time getting into the GSL proper, and we all knew how beastly they were. Also, PUMA FRIGGING WON THE FIRST NASL. How the fuck is that not a huge accomplishment? He rampaged through the open tournament, and stormed through the LAN finals to win a very closely contested grand finals vs MC, who was and still is, considered the best protoss in the world. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? You either have a short memory, or you're purposefully short-selling Puma just to promote your argument.


Being accomplished means a lot more than one win. I'm pretty sure.
Never make a hydralisk.
wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
August 20 2011 16:15 GMT
#2235
the kratoss ftw
slim pickens
Calasmere
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom161 Posts
August 20 2011 16:17 GMT
#2236
When is the finals? Can't find anything in the OP.
Heaton31
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
August 20 2011 16:18 GMT
#2237
Since I'm dumb and can't figure out a schedule can anyone answer this: When is the finals starting tomorrow? 6pm est?
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
August 20 2011 16:20 GMT
#2238
On August 21 2011 01:18 Heaton31 wrote:
Since I'm dumb and can't figure out a schedule can anyone answer this: When is the finals starting tomorrow? 6pm est?

im also interested to know T.T would love to know when they are playing, i believe it will be tomorrow as i see nothing suggesting a time in the OP
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
August 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#2239
Does anyone know when will MC v Puma be played? And it's a bo7 right?
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 20 2011 16:24 GMT
#2240
Whoa 3-0 3-0? Just when you think the foreign scene is slowly starting to catch up (Killer out in the group stages, Nada losing early at Assembly) the heavy hitters come and throw their weight around.
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