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Khi
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany188 Posts
August 22 2011 01:19 GMT
#241
This tournament will be so awesome... thank you IGN guys for all the stuff you made and will make!
It is an honor for me to take a vacation for IPL3.
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sksyen
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States359 Posts
August 22 2011 07:15 GMT
#242
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
August 22 2011 07:19 GMT
#243
On August 22 2011 09:57 Carras wrote:
i dont like the group play part..its just for seeding.. compared to mlg´s all important pool play , wich is key to place well in the tourney , this one sucks..

also,single elim sucks... !

but best of luck,will watch as much as i can that weekend =) , great players for sure.

MLGs group play is also just for seeding O_o.

I can agree with single elimination sucking but if they want to cast all the games its pretty much what must be done and somewhat of a necessary evil, double elimination is a nice perk in the open bracket to compensate for that, overall this is a good balance imo.
Vira
Profile Joined November 2010
573 Posts
August 22 2011 09:52 GMT
#244
It could be nice if Stephano manage to be invite =)
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
August 22 2011 10:26 GMT
#245
One of the 3 last spots is obviously Huk.

That leaves 2 spots for Koreans. Nestea and MC are the obvious choices there... though MVP or Boxer could pull off an invite.
zeenix1
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden89 Posts
August 22 2011 10:39 GMT
#246
On August 22 2011 16:19 Adebisi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 09:57 Carras wrote:
i dont like the group play part..its just for seeding.. compared to mlg´s all important pool play , wich is key to place well in the tourney , this one sucks..

also,single elim sucks... !

but best of luck,will watch as much as i can that weekend =) , great players for sure.

MLGs group play is also just for seeding O_o.

I can agree with single elimination sucking but if they want to cast all the games its pretty much what must be done and somewhat of a necessary evil, double elimination is a nice perk in the open bracket to compensate for that, overall this is a good balance imo.


MLG groupplay has a point to it, at the actual event (ignoring wether the players deserv to be in groupplay) it makes total sense and is not about seed, every better position guarantees you more money and fewer opponents to beat to reach the final..

This IPL-groupplay just sounds like a sorry excuse to get some games of the ppl who are qualified and invited and will end up losing their first game. I dont have a better suggestion atm, but pointless groupplay is pointless..
They better not do like MLG and neglect the "open bracket"-matches.. they seem to underestimate just how badly ppl want to see those too..
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
August 22 2011 11:56 GMT
#247
Just took a look at the 1st online qualifer bracket...

+ Show Spoiler +
MMA vs Ryung in Ro256, with a possible faceoff against teammate Sleep in the next round
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
August 22 2011 12:11 GMT
#248
On August 22 2011 20:56 AXygnus wrote:
Just took a look at the 1st online qualifer bracket...

+ Show Spoiler +
MMA vs Ryung in Ro256, with a possible faceoff against teammate Sleep in the next round


Ro64 you mean. Only about 70 people signed up for this qualifier. Still an unfortunate pairing though.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
nougdp
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany144 Posts
August 22 2011 12:15 GMT
#249
Wanna see MarineKing sooo bad! :o
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 22 2011 16:52 GMT
#250
On August 22 2011 19:39 zeenix1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 16:19 Adebisi wrote:
On August 22 2011 09:57 Carras wrote:
i dont like the group play part..its just for seeding.. compared to mlg´s all important pool play , wich is key to place well in the tourney , this one sucks..

also,single elim sucks... !

but best of luck,will watch as much as i can that weekend =) , great players for sure.

MLGs group play is also just for seeding O_o.

I can agree with single elimination sucking but if they want to cast all the games its pretty much what must be done and somewhat of a necessary evil, double elimination is a nice perk in the open bracket to compensate for that, overall this is a good balance imo.


MLG groupplay has a point to it, at the actual event (ignoring wether the players deserv to be in groupplay) it makes total sense and is not about seed, every better position guarantees you more money and fewer opponents to beat to reach the final..

This IPL-groupplay just sounds like a sorry excuse to get some games of the ppl who are qualified and invited and will end up losing their first game. I dont have a better suggestion atm, but pointless groupplay is pointless..
They better not do like MLG and neglect the "open bracket"-matches.. they seem to underestimate just how badly ppl want to see those too..


No, you just don't understand how beneficial seeding is. It's much better to get a high seed and fight a low seed and have a higher chance of advancing to the next round (and therefore more money). Unlike someone whose on the opposite end of that or near the middle.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
August 22 2011 16:58 GMT
#251
I'm so done with people saying single elimination sucks.

Single elimination doesn't suck. It means it is all on the line, and there is complete pressure and tense moments at every point in the event. You can't afford to screw up, and that I like to watch. People just don't want to see their favorite players go out early, but at the end of the day I think as a viewer I enjoy the drama more than the long drawn out tournaments where some people has to win 30 BO's to get to the finals from the losers bracket. It sucks to watch a double elimination tournament drag on forever as some player is sitting in the top half of the winners bracket waiting.

How many other sports do double elimination? Almost all major sports out there follow the following format - Some sort of pool play/regular season/accumulative point seeding process -> Single elimination tournament. The only one I can think of right now is the little league world series, and that is because it involves 9 year olds.

Also single elimination tournaments give a much better finals format. I hate how double elimination tournaments either end up with extended series, or a situation where one player has to win 2 BO's and the other only one. I just want to see 2 players who are undefeated meet and play one BO 7 to see who the champion is, who played well enough to go through an entire bracket without losing a series.
zeenix1
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden89 Posts
August 22 2011 18:19 GMT
#252
On August 23 2011 01:52 Ownos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 19:39 zeenix1 wrote:
On August 22 2011 16:19 Adebisi wrote:
On August 22 2011 09:57 Carras wrote:
i dont like the group play part..its just for seeding.. compared to mlg´s all important pool play , wich is key to place well in the tourney , this one sucks..

also,single elim sucks... !

but best of luck,will watch as much as i can that weekend =) , great players for sure.

MLGs group play is also just for seeding O_o.

I can agree with single elimination sucking but if they want to cast all the games its pretty much what must be done and somewhat of a necessary evil, double elimination is a nice perk in the open bracket to compensate for that, overall this is a good balance imo.


MLG groupplay has a point to it, at the actual event (ignoring wether the players deserv to be in groupplay) it makes total sense and is not about seed, every better position guarantees you more money and fewer opponents to beat to reach the final..

This IPL-groupplay just sounds like a sorry excuse to get some games of the ppl who are qualified and invited and will end up losing their first game. I dont have a better suggestion atm, but pointless groupplay is pointless..
They better not do like MLG and neglect the "open bracket"-matches.. they seem to underestimate just how badly ppl want to see those too..


No, you just don't understand how beneficial seeding is. It's much better to get a high seed and fight a low seed and have a higher chance of advancing to the next round (and therefore more money). Unlike someone whose on the opposite end of that or near the middle.


Get real, in SC2, specially when unseeded koreans make themselves present there's little point to big seeding system, even less to play for seeds with unseeded players yet again..
I stand to my point it's close to pointless.
Rafx
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland37 Posts
August 22 2011 18:32 GMT
#253
Nerchio or MaNa really deserve to be invited as well !
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 22 2011 18:40 GMT
#254
On August 23 2011 03:32 Rafx wrote:
Nerchio or MaNa really deserve to be invited as well !


There's already three Europeans invited to the tournament. IPL said that they are going to consider geographic locations when they invite players.
Don't mind me
Hydrox911
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom261 Posts
August 22 2011 18:51 GMT
#255
I don't think any Koreans should be invited just because the best will easily get through the open tournament anyway and having a good amount of foreigners is really enjoyable to watch .
No, Your Quote.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
August 22 2011 18:51 GMT
#256
On August 23 2011 03:40 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 03:32 Rafx wrote:
Nerchio or MaNa really deserve to be invited as well !


There's already three Europeans invited to the tournament. IPL said that they are going to consider geographic locations when they invite players.

If Mana doesn't get an invite I'll be really sad T_T Best results of any foreigner recently
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 04:36:06
August 22 2011 20:09 GMT
#257
kinda sux that u guys didnt reserve a spot(or two) in the main tournament for the top point earners from the qualifiers, woulda been nice if there was a small reward for all the players who are putting so much time/energy(and money) into qualifying for your tournament.. instead of giving away a shitload of freepasses =]
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
August 22 2011 20:14 GMT
#258
On August 23 2011 05:09 TT1 wrote:
kinda sux that u guys didnt reserve a spot(or two) in the main tournament for the top point earners from the qualifiers, woulda been nice if there was a small reward for all the players that are putting so much time/energy(and money) into qualifying for your tournament.. instead of giving away a shitload of freepasses =]

This is a decent point, I think in the future maybe top 8 getting free entry to the next qualification tournament would be a nice (albeit small) perk for those players.
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
August 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#259
On August 23 2011 05:09 TT1 wrote:
kinda sux that u guys didnt reserve a spot(or two) in the main tournament for the top point earners from the qualifiers, woulda been nice if there was a small reward for all the players that are putting so much time/energy(and money) into qualifying for your tournament.. instead of giving away a shitload of freepasses =]


We feel like the qualifiers offer an incredible opportunity for people to earn a fantastic reward and that while the risk of losing $20 is high, the reward is even higher.

I don't feel like 8 invites is a lot either considering how many players can be involved in this event.

It's worth considering for the future though, and we did consider that for IPL 3 as well.
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
userstupidname
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 20:48:18
August 22 2011 20:48 GMT
#260
On August 23 2011 05:39 Alex.IGN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 05:09 TT1 wrote:
kinda sux that u guys didnt reserve a spot(or two) in the main tournament for the top point earners from the qualifiers, woulda been nice if there was a small reward for all the players that are putting so much time/energy(and money) into qualifying for your tournament.. instead of giving away a shitload of freepasses =]


We feel like the qualifiers offer an incredible opportunity for people to earn a fantastic reward and that while the risk of losing $20 is high, the reward is even higher.

I don't feel like 8 invites is a lot either considering how many players can be involved in this event.

It's worth considering for the future though, and we did consider that for IPL 3 as well.



Good to hear feedback on the matter nontheless
Good luck have fun! - Except if its ZvZ Then you can burn in hell :D
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