[R&S] EG's Master's Cup Series Season VI League - Page 7

On August 08 2011 02:32 Davido wrote:
Sad that they picked Its gosu instead of like millenium.

Why doesn't TL stop acting childish bullshit and just accept the EG-rules? It's their tournament.

On August 08 2011 01:56 Mordiford wrote:


They had to keep the cut-off at 6th otherwise EG itself wouldn't have potentially been in this season.

I originally thought all the teams who made it to the playoffs would auto-qualify and the bottom four would have to re-qualify which makes more sense but it's kind of obvious why the cutoff was placed where it was.

I personally think the League should be expanded to twelve teams with open qualifications, It would make the season longer, but I don't really think that's a bad thing. Additionally, I agree that the cut-off is incredibly low, at 6th place, but it's kind of obvious why it's there.

Also, on another note, it blows my mind that anyone can complain about, "second rate teams like Complexity", when they finished in second place and then go on to tout FXO which failed to qualify for this season.

As for the Liquid fiasco, it shouldn't be an issue. EG has it's own rules for the Master's Cup, Liquid doesn't like those rules, they don't participate in the tournament, simple. I can absolutely understand why cross server would be a pain in the ass and I can also understand why Liquid thinks it's unfair to have everything played on NA, they're choosing not to play so there's no issue.

Finally, the whole Complexity/Fnatic "fiasco"(there was no Dignitas involved, people are absolutely idiotic sometimes) isn't even a real fiasco, their players weren't available and they had already qualifier so they decided to play Xeris in the ace match because they were locked in. They owe nothing to Sixjax nor do they have any responsibility to make sure which team should qualify, it's not like they just threw an easily won game either, because the games Xeris played in were the 2v2(Where Catz and Drewbie were undefeated anyways) and the ace where only Fenix was available otherwise(Complexity's Minigun has a ridiculously positive record against Fenix). Additionally, Complexity went on to 3-0 Fnatic in the playoffs so I don't see why people still bring the issue up at all.

Sixjax failure to qualify was based on their own performance, it's not Fnatic's responsibility.

On August 08 2011 02:41 tsuxiit wrote:


You don't think the onus is on the tournament organizer to a. ensure fair play conditions for the competitors or b. accommodate a major, community-backed team's request to achieve those fair play conditions?

Unless I misunderstand the situation or its changed from last season, TL wants alternating servers, or at least some kind of Korean server accommodation in where it plays its games. EG wants all games played on the North America server. TL then refuses to play. If this happened one season, sure, I'd give EG the benefit of the doubt and call it an unfortunate situation. But now we're at a point where SC2's international infrastructure has improved tremendously. Koreans compete in every major league and there is a plurality of foreign server accounts available to all major tournament organizers, teams, and players. Not to mention EG itself has just recruited a fucking player from Korea to play as a part of their team! I don't understand how you can reconcile that with it's simultaneous refusal to cater AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE to competitors outside of North America, even (or especially) when they represent the American community? THAT'S why I call this childish PR "don't-blink" bullshit.

On August 08 2011 02:50 Twoinches wrote:


No, it's their event. You cant bend to all parties involved. If I want to start a tournament for players who's names only start in Q, im not going to be like ok you A players and D players can play to. It's weird to me that ALL the other teams (who also have foreign non us players) did not put up a big stink about this and complied, but TL did. everyone but Tl was like "ok its your event" and there supposed to bend to TL?

On August 08 2011 03:13 tsuxiit wrote:


OK, but I think all of that is bullshit. Why can they not they bend their rules? What god of Starcraft descended from the heavens and said, "EG, YOU ARE THE ALMIGHTY ARBITRATOR OF STARCRAFT TOURNAMENT RULES, AND YOU HAVE WRITTEN THAT WE SHAN'T ACCOMMODATE INTERNATIONAL COMPETITORS, UNLESS OF COURSE THEY PLAY FOR YOUR TEAM, AND NO ONE WILL BE ALLOWED TO FIND FAULT IN YOUR OMNIPOTENT WAYS"? It's idiotic that we blindly accept EG's conditions which today are nothing if not completely arbitrary.

On August 08 2011 03:13 tsuxiit wrote:


OK, but I think all of that is bullshit. Why can they not they bend their rules? What god of Starcraft descended from the heavens and said, "EG, YOU ARE THE ALMIGHTY ARBITRATOR OF STARCRAFT TOURNAMENT RULES, AND YOU HAVE WRITTEN THAT WE SHAN'T ACCOMMODATE INTERNATIONAL COMPETITORS, UNLESS OF COURSE THEY PLAY FOR YOUR TEAM, AND NO ONE WILL BE ALLOWED TO FIND FAULT IN YOUR OMNIPOTENT WAYS"? It's idiotic that we blindly accept EG's conditions which today are nothing if not completely arbitrary.

On August 08 2011 02:21 Hardigan wrote:
2. It can go both ways: Why doesn't TL stop acting childish bullshit and just accept the EG-rules? It's their tournament.

On August 08 2011 02:02 LeFroMaGe wrote:

Hit the nail on the head for me. Garner more interest, get Koreans...

On August 08 2011 03:17 garlicface wrote:

Why can't TL comply? Are they the almighty arbitrator of SC rules? See how what you said can be flipped on its head?