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Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
August 07 2011 09:41 GMT
#61
On August 07 2011 18:26 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 18:13 MrBitter wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:12 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Do they have any rules as far as players meeting twice? Ret has already played and beat both Naniwa and Tarson, so if he loses against Thorzain, either way his next opponent is someone he's already beat.

That being said, I really want either Ret or Tarson to take this.


None that I'm aware of. Also can confirm that for someone to come through losers and win they will have to win 2 best of 3s.


The worst rule ever invented in tournaments. Why not just tie weights around his hands and blindfold him as well and then have him win 2 best of 3s?


have you ever played in a tournament yourself ?
i have, and i have come to winners bracket finals many times in my life (on wc3 roc).
do you know how it feels when the admin is stupid and doesn't understand this rule, and you end up losing when it's actually your first loss in the tourney, and you even knocked out the guy that just beat you earlier in the tournament ?
you feel pretty much robbed.
2 bo3s is just logical, first loss to get into the LB, then it's the real bo3 final.
if you lose a game/set in a tournament , it's only normal that you should be at a disadvantage, and don't come up with "you have to play so many more games".
ogawdlulz
Profile Joined March 2011
Bangladesh61 Posts
August 07 2011 09:43 GMT
#62
On August 07 2011 18:41 Toxi78 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 18:26 Talin wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:13 MrBitter wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:12 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Do they have any rules as far as players meeting twice? Ret has already played and beat both Naniwa and Tarson, so if he loses against Thorzain, either way his next opponent is someone he's already beat.

That being said, I really want either Ret or Tarson to take this.


None that I'm aware of. Also can confirm that for someone to come through losers and win they will have to win 2 best of 3s.


The worst rule ever invented in tournaments. Why not just tie weights around his hands and blindfold him as well and then have him win 2 best of 3s?


have you ever played in a tournament yourself ?
i have, and i have come to winners bracket finals many times in my life (on wc3 roc).
do you know how it feels when the admin is stupid and doesn't understand this rule, and you end up losing when it's actually your first loss in the tourney, and you even knocked out the guy that just beat you earlier in the tournament ?
you feel pretty much robbed.
2 bo3s is just logical, first loss to get into the LB, then it's the real bo3 final.
if you lose a game/set in a tournament , it's only normal that you should be at a disadvantage, and don't come up with "you have to play so many more games".

The loser bracket players already plays an extra bo3 he has to win so he's making up his loss with that already. No need to punish him twice.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 09:46:19
August 07 2011 09:44 GMT
#63
On stream it says they will start 11:45, but the calender says in 19 min.

So if you don't want to miss something, the stream is live now with a schedule + music.

Edit. Starting now.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 09:47:23
August 07 2011 09:46 GMT
#64
On August 07 2011 18:41 Toxi78 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 18:26 Talin wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:13 MrBitter wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:12 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Do they have any rules as far as players meeting twice? Ret has already played and beat both Naniwa and Tarson, so if he loses against Thorzain, either way his next opponent is someone he's already beat.

That being said, I really want either Ret or Tarson to take this.


None that I'm aware of. Also can confirm that for someone to come through losers and win they will have to win 2 best of 3s.


The worst rule ever invented in tournaments. Why not just tie weights around his hands and blindfold him as well and then have him win 2 best of 3s?


have you ever played in a tournament yourself ?
i have, and i have come to winners bracket finals many times in my life (on wc3 roc).
do you know how it feels when the admin is stupid and doesn't understand this rule, and you end up losing when it's actually your first loss in the tourney, and you even knocked out the guy that just beat you earlier in the tournament ?
you feel pretty much robbed.
2 bo3s is just logical, first loss to get into the LB, then it's the real bo3 final.
if you lose a game/set in a tournament , it's only normal that you should be at a disadvantage, and don't come up with "you have to play so many more games".


I don't know what else can I say except that I disagree entirely. The logic that someone has to start a series pretty much crippled and with 10% chance to win at best doesn't work for me at all.

Why even play then? Just auto award the LB winner 2nd place and be done with it.

Either knock the player out completely if he loses a series, or let him play normally. These handicap rules are just silly.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
August 07 2011 09:46 GMT
#65
On August 07 2011 18:43 ogawdlulz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 18:41 Toxi78 wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:26 Talin wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:13 MrBitter wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:12 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Do they have any rules as far as players meeting twice? Ret has already played and beat both Naniwa and Tarson, so if he loses against Thorzain, either way his next opponent is someone he's already beat.

That being said, I really want either Ret or Tarson to take this.


None that I'm aware of. Also can confirm that for someone to come through losers and win they will have to win 2 best of 3s.


The worst rule ever invented in tournaments. Why not just tie weights around his hands and blindfold him as well and then have him win 2 best of 3s?


have you ever played in a tournament yourself ?
i have, and i have come to winners bracket finals many times in my life (on wc3 roc).
do you know how it feels when the admin is stupid and doesn't understand this rule, and you end up losing when it's actually your first loss in the tourney, and you even knocked out the guy that just beat you earlier in the tournament ?
you feel pretty much robbed.
2 bo3s is just logical, first loss to get into the LB, then it's the real bo3 final.
if you lose a game/set in a tournament , it's only normal that you should be at a disadvantage, and don't come up with "you have to play so many more games".

The loser bracket players already plays an extra bo3 he has to win so he's making up his loss with that already. No need to punish him twice.


Disagree.

Your basically saying 'double elimination for everyone except the guy who won the winners bracket'

That is really... dumb...
netsky4
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria511 Posts
August 07 2011 09:46 GMT
#66
Stream is on
PigglyWinks
Profile Joined May 2011
364 Posts
August 07 2011 09:46 GMT
#67
Starting now. Thorzain-Ret.
falafelnr1
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden444 Posts
August 07 2011 09:48 GMT
#68
http://eu.battle.net/blizzcon/en/tournaments/eu-regionals/
gogogogo!
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
August 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#69
On August 07 2011 18:44 Jiddra wrote:
On stream it says they will start 11:45, but the calender says in 19 min.

So if you don't want to miss something, the stream is live now with a schedule + music.

Edit. Starting now.

Yeah, Calender was always an hour late compared to the released Schedule, perhaps they were sure it´s like yesterday
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
August 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#70
Ret still without TL shirt....
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
August 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#71
Tarson!
Mairu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States222 Posts
August 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#72
On August 07 2011 18:46 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 18:41 Toxi78 wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:26 Talin wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:13 MrBitter wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:12 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Do they have any rules as far as players meeting twice? Ret has already played and beat both Naniwa and Tarson, so if he loses against Thorzain, either way his next opponent is someone he's already beat.

That being said, I really want either Ret or Tarson to take this.


None that I'm aware of. Also can confirm that for someone to come through losers and win they will have to win 2 best of 3s.


The worst rule ever invented in tournaments. Why not just tie weights around his hands and blindfold him as well and then have him win 2 best of 3s?


have you ever played in a tournament yourself ?
i have, and i have come to winners bracket finals many times in my life (on wc3 roc).
do you know how it feels when the admin is stupid and doesn't understand this rule, and you end up losing when it's actually your first loss in the tourney, and you even knocked out the guy that just beat you earlier in the tournament ?
you feel pretty much robbed.
2 bo3s is just logical, first loss to get into the LB, then it's the real bo3 final.
if you lose a game/set in a tournament , it's only normal that you should be at a disadvantage, and don't come up with "you have to play so many more games".


I don't know what else can I say except that I disagree entirely. The logic that someone has to start a series pretty much crippled and with 10% chance to win at best doesn't work for me at all.

Why even play then? Just auto award the LB winner 2nd place and be done with it.

Either knock the player out completely if he loses a series, or let him play normally. These handicap rules are just silly.

How does that make any sense? Both players are playing with the same rules. Whichever one gets defeated in a bo3 twice is out of the tournament. That's why they call it double elimination, that's why there's a loser's bracket. Obviously the person who has never lost a bo3 in the winner's bracket has to lose two bo3s.
MrPello
Profile Joined October 2009
Sweden187 Posts
August 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#73
Gogo Naniwa!!!
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#74
On August 07 2011 18:46 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 18:43 ogawdlulz wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:41 Toxi78 wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:26 Talin wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:13 MrBitter wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:12 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Do they have any rules as far as players meeting twice? Ret has already played and beat both Naniwa and Tarson, so if he loses against Thorzain, either way his next opponent is someone he's already beat.

That being said, I really want either Ret or Tarson to take this.


None that I'm aware of. Also can confirm that for someone to come through losers and win they will have to win 2 best of 3s.


The worst rule ever invented in tournaments. Why not just tie weights around his hands and blindfold him as well and then have him win 2 best of 3s?


have you ever played in a tournament yourself ?
i have, and i have come to winners bracket finals many times in my life (on wc3 roc).
do you know how it feels when the admin is stupid and doesn't understand this rule, and you end up losing when it's actually your first loss in the tourney, and you even knocked out the guy that just beat you earlier in the tournament ?
you feel pretty much robbed.
2 bo3s is just logical, first loss to get into the LB, then it's the real bo3 final.
if you lose a game/set in a tournament , it's only normal that you should be at a disadvantage, and don't come up with "you have to play so many more games".

The loser bracket players already plays an extra bo3 he has to win so he's making up his loss with that already. No need to punish him twice.


Disagree.

Your basically saying 'double elimination for everyone except the guy who won the winners bracket'

That is really... dumb...


I agree. It would be incredible stupid to have double elimination and not have it count in the final for the player from the winners bracket.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#75
regarding rets shirt. We shipped rets shirts when he had lost a ton of weight, he put some of it back on so after some replacements he was down to only 1 that fit - which he lost between MLG and EU invitational. It will be fixed for next event.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#76
On August 07 2011 18:49 Mairu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 18:46 Talin wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:41 Toxi78 wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:26 Talin wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:13 MrBitter wrote:
On August 07 2011 18:12 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Do they have any rules as far as players meeting twice? Ret has already played and beat both Naniwa and Tarson, so if he loses against Thorzain, either way his next opponent is someone he's already beat.

That being said, I really want either Ret or Tarson to take this.


None that I'm aware of. Also can confirm that for someone to come through losers and win they will have to win 2 best of 3s.


The worst rule ever invented in tournaments. Why not just tie weights around his hands and blindfold him as well and then have him win 2 best of 3s?


have you ever played in a tournament yourself ?
i have, and i have come to winners bracket finals many times in my life (on wc3 roc).
do you know how it feels when the admin is stupid and doesn't understand this rule, and you end up losing when it's actually your first loss in the tourney, and you even knocked out the guy that just beat you earlier in the tournament ?
you feel pretty much robbed.
2 bo3s is just logical, first loss to get into the LB, then it's the real bo3 final.
if you lose a game/set in a tournament , it's only normal that you should be at a disadvantage, and don't come up with "you have to play so many more games".


I don't know what else can I say except that I disagree entirely. The logic that someone has to start a series pretty much crippled and with 10% chance to win at best doesn't work for me at all.

Why even play then? Just auto award the LB winner 2nd place and be done with it.

Either knock the player out completely if he loses a series, or let him play normally. These handicap rules are just silly.

How does that make any sense? Both players are playing with the same rules. Whichever one gets defeated in a bo3 twice is out of the tournament. That's why they call it double elimination, that's why there's a loser's bracket. Obviously the person who has never lost a bo3 in the winner's bracket has to lose two bo3s.


I'm not saying it's not logical, I'm saying it's not right.

Correct logic doesn't make up for having a boring, one-sided finals that one player simply can't and won't win unless he's 3 times better.
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
August 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#77
Go thorzain! my cute little terran.
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
August 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#78
This should be alot of fun, i'm hoping Thorzain wins!
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
August 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#79
Come on Thorzain, you can do this!! Ret is looking strong, but I must cheer on "the hammer" here.

I am not young enough to know everything.
Szgk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland112 Posts
August 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#80
On August 07 2011 18:51 Kennigit wrote:
regarding rets shirt. We shipped rets shirts when he had lost a ton of weight, he put some of it back on so after some replacements he was down to only 1 that fit - which he lost between MLG and EU invitational. It will be fixed for next event.

Haha, best story ever.
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