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Try to keep it positive in the thread please. And stop hating on other games! Respect and show everyone how awesome TL is :D
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8081
As someone who honestly has never watched WoW arena before, how is this hard to understand?

Guys use abilities on each other until the other dudes die.Also it seems like focusing the healers(I guess shamans are the healers?) is an useful skill toi have.

I might not get the finer details(at all) but really guys, dont act as if this was THAT hard to understand.

"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8082
On August 07 2011 04:34 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 04:33 sixfour wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:33 TheHova wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:32 FliedLice wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:31 Benito wrote:
why are they interviewing the loser?


because why not?


Because there's a reason why this doesn't happen in other sports/events?


It happens all the time?


No it doesn't.


The losing coach and players are almost always interviewed, what are you talking about?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8083
On August 07 2011 07:11 T-oastbro-T wrote:
From a spectator-point-of-view, following arenamatches is really hard. Especially when the camera gets stuck at a bunch of boxes causing it to zoom all the way in until all you see is a blurry firework of some spell-effects. :/

It helps to play as a healer: stare at health boxes! XD
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Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8084
On August 07 2011 07:10 Thesidu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:10 Lennon wrote:
WoW prize pool?


15k for first place


Thanks.
oldahe
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria534 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8085
[image loading]

this is why WoW has rather little potential to be the ESport for the masses. right?
bo0
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium550 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8086
to any of the old school wow guys here:

in the old MLGs, there were 3 casters: igoaf, vhell, and that short asian guy with the nasal voice

wtf was his name again?
evolute
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada209 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8087
On August 07 2011 07:09 Mikah wrote:
u crazy? korea has sick players, when wow was actually "good" and was played in MLG etc, koreans were nearly as dominant as in sc2 imo. You just think korea doesnt have good wow players because they dont make pvp videos


KR has always kind of been a joke in WoW. They're write offs in Blizzcon because they usually always lose to the US and EU teams right off the bat.

The only 'good' team was Orangemarm/Satz/Numberone and they even lost to Dignitas and Complexity.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8088
Doesn't Wow have offline servers for wow arena event?
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
thewax
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria365 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8089
On August 07 2011 07:10 Lennon wrote:
WoW prize pool?

same as for sc2 i think

1st place - 15k
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#8090
As much as I still enjoy WoW pVp Im gonna wait for blizzcon xd.
Im going to bed now to wake up in time for tomorrow, gn evryone!
It appears I have been chosen.
It appears I have been chosen.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8091
On August 07 2011 07:09 Jinsho wrote:
No, Soe is not new to casting WoW, I am pretty sure she's been involved with some of 2GDs casting stuff before. She's his girlfriend too, in case you didn't know.

Lucky 2GD.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8092
On August 07 2011 07:10 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:09 Jibba wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:07 Thorakh wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:05 Monsty wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:04 Thorakh wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:03 zocktol wrote:
Is this confusing to people who played WoW, or is it just confusing for noobs like me?
It's confusing for everyone haha.

No, it makes sense for people who play the game and understand pvp to a basic level. The interface being shown displays Crowd control abilities and who's occasionally being focused down. I can follow it, but it's mildly difficult because the casters are super meh.
I played at a relatively high level and this shit is confusing as hell. Don't kid yourself, only people who are currently deeply involved in arena can follow this more closely.

I know the spells they use but it's almost impossible to see 6 players using spells.

Especially when it's lock vs lock.

Obviously you can understand a general trend of what's going on and when big cooldowns are burned, but it's extremely difficult to catch the subtle things players are doing, especially with the terrible casting (Soe.)
Exactly, I watched some tournaments with VHell and 2GD back in the days and they would actually relay useful information to the viewers so that you could actually follow the more subtle things a bit.

Now the only thing I see is lots of flashy lights on the screen and 6 health bars going up and down.

I think the easiest way to describe the problem is that I have no idea why that one shaman is outplaying the other, or why one team is training better than the other. With RMP I have a much better sense of what's going on, but again with locks + UI + bad casting I'm a bit lost.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8093
Why don't they stop talking and show games?
Smapz
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway405 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8094
On August 07 2011 07:12 Meancookie wrote:
to any of the old school wow guys here:

in the old MLGs, there were 3 casters: igoaf, vhell, and that short asian guy with the nasal voice

wtf was his name again?


vansili I think
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8095
On August 07 2011 07:12 oldahe wrote:
[image loading]

this is why WoW has rather little potential to be the ESport for the masses. right?

Its pretty clear cut from how blizzard manages wow that they dont want it to be an esport either.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8096
On August 07 2011 07:12 Meancookie wrote:
to any of the old school wow guys here:

in the old MLGs, there were 3 casters: igoaf, vhell, and that short asian guy with the nasal voice

wtf was his name again?


No idea but he was constantly well dress and tried to bring proffessionallism to the cast but ended up getting bashed 300% by the AJ forums.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8097
That, and the fact that it's a pretty big jumble of flashy spell effects.
I mean, I know what they are, I know what they're doing, and it's still just really bad.
Is WoW Arena fun? Yeah. Do people on these forums enjoy it? Yeah! But is it a spectator e-sport on the same level as SC2? No, not even remotely.

I'm glad Blizzard decided not to try and push it as an e-sport anymore. Too bad that means they put no effort into a proper spectator client or casters.
Some dude in the thread on the official WoW forums.
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8098
On August 07 2011 07:09 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:07 mprs wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:03 Daray wrote:
Good to know that things havent changed at all. Train the healer seems to be a working strategy still -_-


To be fair, there was plenty of pressure on the DK and Shaman. Not sure if you played against a real "train the healer" team in BC/WotLK or not, but I have nightmares of a warrior x2 or warrior/dk deathgrip/charging my priest and me and my mage pretending like we can do something about it lol.

Its still like that xD. I play a Spriest/Mage/Shaman team and the melee cleave's make me want to cry they just keep charging and life gripping xD. Mind my rating is only 1500....

High rated players understand 90% of whats going on, they even have special size on CC (blind, sheep and fear) so its not that hard to understand whats happening if you play on a ok rating yourself but i can understand for low-rated players and people that dont watch WoW normally dont understand because there are 40-50 spells for every person and there are 6 of them in the arena + pets and totems that do different stuff.
SlayerS_MMA and TL #1
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8099
On August 07 2011 07:12 oldahe wrote:
[image loading]

this is why WoW has rather little potential to be the ESport for the masses. right?


No, its because the game balance and blizzards approach to pvp is terrible, they dont want to make it an esport.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
August 06 2011 22:13 GMT
#8100
On August 07 2011 07:12 oldahe wrote:
[image loading]

this is why WoW has rather little potential to be the ESport for the masses. right?


yup.
also the community is terrible
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