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On August 03 2011 03:29 tuho12345 wrote:So many damn Terrans  I want Creator Prime and Frozen 
Heh, the sad thing is that I'm really torn - I want BoxeR, Ganzi, and QXC to go through, but they're all Terran as well. If the amount of Terran truly becomes overwhelming, it WILL hurt viewership.
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On August 03 2011 03:32 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 03:29 tuho12345 wrote:So many damn Terrans  I want Creator Prime and Frozen  Heh, the sad thing is that I'm really torn - I want BoxeR, Ganzi, and QXC to go through, but they're all Terran as well. If the amount of Terran truly becomes overwhelming, it WILL hurt viewership. I'm counting on Choya making it through myself with his super special powers. 
But yeah, it's a shame. At least one Zerg made it through.
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sad that line/stc/san didn't make it, hope when DRG plays (today I think) he'll get through this time.
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On August 03 2011 03:31 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 03:19 Micket wrote:On August 03 2011 03:16 SniXSniPe wrote:On August 03 2011 01:58 TERRANLOL wrote:On August 02 2011 22:15 Kiyo. wrote:On August 02 2011 21:43 ZeromuS wrote:On August 02 2011 21:40 UnholyRai wrote:On August 02 2011 21:38 chocopaw wrote: I could vomit, 4/6 terrans. -_- terran is by far the most popular race in korea, what did you expect? Yeah its kinda sad to see so many Terrans but theres nothing you can do when Korean Terrans are just so damn good. I mean look at the models and heroes. Who does protoss have? MC. Zerg? Nestea. Terran: MVP Boxer MMA (kinda new to the scene) MKP Polt the list goes on. And these are SC2 heroes that people can look to emulate while playing sc2. Saying nothing of the BW Terrans that had ppl play terran before they switched to sc2. If YellOw shows awesome games and plays a lot then you will see more Zerg players in the K scene I am sure. If you're gonna include Boxer, MMA, and MKP then you have to include Alicia/Puzzle for Protoss and Zenio/Coca/Losira for Zerg. You can't just pick the top player for zerg and protoss and then list a bunch of high level terrans to push your argument. Either list all the high level players of each race, or be realistic and list only the very top tier players from each race. In the latter's case it'd be Protoss: MC Zerg: Nestea Terran: MVP Bomber is a much better terran player than MVP. Bomber is better at TvP @ and slightly @ TvT. But MVP has a far better TvZ. Bomber said he disliked using Mech, which may be a problem in the future. mvp is current TvT king i think. Arguable at this point. MVP's TvT winrate is only 3% higher than Bomber's, while Bomber beat MVP in a Bo7 4-2 the last time they met. MVP may be a greater overall player so far and is far more accomplished than Bomber, but when their TvT winrates are pretty much even and Bomber up a Bo7 on MVP, I don't think you can call MVP the TvT king for sure.
if we really want to compare the 2 players, keep in mind that MVP played more matches so far than bomber, also they're fairly similar by statistics, both have a fairly weak match up, but both of them lost to some real monsters of that race, Alicia who is a t sniper, or Nestea who is Nestea, so it's not even a "weak" match up just not as good as their others. MVP's vz is probably unmatched, and Bomber's vP is only matched by Polt. So statistics wise they're fairly even
Style wise, MVP's much more solid and enjoyable (to me) and overpowering, and Bomber does crasy all-ins and shit sometimes and does BM. MVP's the clear winner here
And one more thing, TVT is kinda volatile imo- we saw Polt crushing MMA in the ground, who beat MVP, we saw Byun beat Boomer, and Byun's considered a lesser player, we see these new Slayers terrans do crazy stuff and beat top players here and there... So after all imo it's impossible to tell who is the better player, they're both in the top5 the least, any arguement about who is better is down to emotions not racionalism
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On August 03 2011 03:36 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 03:32 HolyArrow wrote:On August 03 2011 03:29 tuho12345 wrote:So many damn Terrans  I want Creator Prime and Frozen  Heh, the sad thing is that I'm really torn - I want BoxeR, Ganzi, and QXC to go through, but they're all Terran as well. If the amount of Terran truly becomes overwhelming, it WILL hurt viewership. I'm counting on Choya making it through myself with his super special powers. 
yeah it's not fair that Choya can use his 2-3 personalities at once while other players have only one, he'll probably make it
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On August 03 2011 03:42 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 03:31 HolyArrow wrote:On August 03 2011 03:19 Micket wrote:On August 03 2011 03:16 SniXSniPe wrote:On August 03 2011 01:58 TERRANLOL wrote:On August 02 2011 22:15 Kiyo. wrote:On August 02 2011 21:43 ZeromuS wrote:On August 02 2011 21:40 UnholyRai wrote:On August 02 2011 21:38 chocopaw wrote: I could vomit, 4/6 terrans. -_- terran is by far the most popular race in korea, what did you expect? Yeah its kinda sad to see so many Terrans but theres nothing you can do when Korean Terrans are just so damn good. I mean look at the models and heroes. Who does protoss have? MC. Zerg? Nestea. Terran: MVP Boxer MMA (kinda new to the scene) MKP Polt the list goes on. And these are SC2 heroes that people can look to emulate while playing sc2. Saying nothing of the BW Terrans that had ppl play terran before they switched to sc2. If YellOw shows awesome games and plays a lot then you will see more Zerg players in the K scene I am sure. If you're gonna include Boxer, MMA, and MKP then you have to include Alicia/Puzzle for Protoss and Zenio/Coca/Losira for Zerg. You can't just pick the top player for zerg and protoss and then list a bunch of high level terrans to push your argument. Either list all the high level players of each race, or be realistic and list only the very top tier players from each race. In the latter's case it'd be Protoss: MC Zerg: Nestea Terran: MVP Bomber is a much better terran player than MVP. Bomber is better at TvP @ and slightly @ TvT. But MVP has a far better TvZ. Bomber said he disliked using Mech, which may be a problem in the future. mvp is current TvT king i think. Arguable at this point. MVP's TvT winrate is only 3% higher than Bomber's, while Bomber beat MVP in a Bo7 4-2 the last time they met. MVP may be a greater overall player so far and is far more accomplished than Bomber, but when their TvT winrates are pretty much even and Bomber up a Bo7 on MVP, I don't think you can call MVP the TvT king for sure. if we really want to compare the 2 players, keep in mind that MVP played more matches so far than bomber, also they're fairly similar by statistics, both have a fairly weak match up, but both of them lost to some real monsters of that race, Alicia who is a t sniper, or Nestea who is Nestea, so it's not even a "weak" match up just not as good as their others. MVP's vz is probably unmatched, and Bomber's vP is only matched by Polt. So statistics wise they're fairly even Style wise, MVP's much more solid and enjoyable (to me) and overpowering, and Bomber does crasy all-ins and shit sometimes and does BM. MVP's the clear winner here And one more thing, TVT is kinda volatile imo- we saw Polt crushing MMA in the ground, who beat MVP, we saw Byun beat Boomer, and Byun's considered a lesser player, we see these new Slayers terrans do crazy stuff and beat top players here and there... So after all imo it's impossible to tell who is the better player, they're both in the top5 the least, any arguement about who is better is down to emotions not racionalism
MVP indeed has a good deal more matches than Bomber (they both have a pretty good number of matches though), but in TvT, MVP only has 1 more game than Bomber, so I think that's negligible. You don't always have to make arguments only based on emotions, though. You can look at statistics and match history between the players (and I'm only talking about TvT here, which simplifies things a good deal), both of which are objective facts. If they have similar TvT records but Bomber is up a series on MVP (and a Bo7 at that), you can use those records to say that Bomber is better at TvT at the moment. I do agree that TvT is changing a lot though - so I'm looking forward to seeing how Bomber does in it.
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New to following the preliminaries here, are there more games to follow what was just broadcasted?
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TheBest is back in the GSL HAHAHAHAHAHA
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On August 03 2011 01:58 TERRANLOL wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 22:15 Kiyo. wrote:On August 02 2011 21:43 ZeromuS wrote:On August 02 2011 21:40 UnholyRai wrote:On August 02 2011 21:38 chocopaw wrote: I could vomit, 4/6 terrans. -_- terran is by far the most popular race in korea, what did you expect? Yeah its kinda sad to see so many Terrans but theres nothing you can do when Korean Terrans are just so damn good. I mean look at the models and heroes. Who does protoss have? MC. Zerg? Nestea. Terran: MVP Boxer MMA (kinda new to the scene) MKP Polt the list goes on. And these are SC2 heroes that people can look to emulate while playing sc2. Saying nothing of the BW Terrans that had ppl play terran before they switched to sc2. If YellOw shows awesome games and plays a lot then you will see more Zerg players in the K scene I am sure. If you're gonna include Boxer, MMA, and MKP then you have to include Alicia/Puzzle for Protoss and Zenio/Coca/Losira for Zerg. You can't just pick the top player for zerg and protoss and then list a bunch of high level terrans to push your argument. Either list all the high level players of each race, or be realistic and list only the very top tier players from each race. In the latter's case it'd be Protoss: MC Zerg: Nestea Terran: MVP Bomber is a much better terran player than MVP.
rofl you mad?
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is it me who cant count or does this tread say 6 on tuesday and there are 5 names only ?
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On August 03 2011 04:39 CoR wrote: is it me who cant count or does this tread say 6 on tuesday and there are 5 names only ? MvP Sniper got through as well, it's just not in the OP.
And TheBest is a beast, he almost always qualifies.
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haha TheBest is back! Hide your daughters, protect your mineral lines!
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Am I the only one noticing that the only Terran who lost in the last round lost to another Terran ...
Still debating whether to get that GSL ticket with all the TvT ... may depend on whether DRG makes it.
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this might have been answered but Puma is not playing in the code A qualifiers?
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theBest always goes far, gogogo!
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On August 03 2011 04:51 Sixes wrote: Am I the only one noticing that the only Terran who lost in the last round lost to another Terran ...
Still debating whether to get that GSL ticket with all the TvT ... may depend on whether DRG makes it.
One word: Nestea. He will save us all from Terran dominance.
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I can't wait for more theBest airlines!
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