MLG Anaheim Day 3 BLUE Live Report Thread - Page 15

On August 01 2011 07:16 Astro-Penguin wrote:
I see this korean dominance doing one of two things:

A) Encouraging foreigners to train harder and prepare better so they can win tournaments

or

B) Cause foreigners to lose hope and demotivate them as the odds are just so stacked against them

Hopefully the remainder of FXO and the newcomers (Naniwa, Thorzain, Sase and Fenix) can train hard enough to produce results and give us more foreigners in the top 6.

On August 01 2011 07:20 Doomwish wrote:


I wonder if this means hes not going to bother showing up to future MLG's. Seed points are important. Koreans just own and it looks like foreigners have no chance.

On August 01 2011 07:27 YodaGoneMad wrote:


At least what I have seen has been option B. If you are involved in the pro-scene, especially that level right below the top where people like Naniwa and Thorzain and Sheth and such reside, you will see that the outlook on the game has totally changed.

After MLG Dallas everyone was excited and motivated, a nobody like Naniwa could come and win a big prize pot and have money to continue his pro career and go to more tournaments and just really "go pro".

After last MLG, and even more after this one, people are questioning if they should even keep playing. Should they even bother going to MLG, since it is almost a sure thing to be a Korean sweep? It is just a really depressing feeling at that level of play right now. Even people like Idra is feeling it, it basically feels like western SC2 (EU and US) are too far behind to compete with KR SC2, and thus they might as well give up. Another few hours of training isn't gonna make it up, KR is months or years ahead right now.

In short, SC2 is starting to feel like SC1, and that will inevitably lead to the death of the strong western esports scene we have enjoyed the past year.

On August 01 2011 07:27 YodaGoneMad wrote:


At least what I have seen has been option B. If you are involved in the pro-scene, especially that level right below the top where people like Naniwa and Thorzain and Sheth and such reside, you will see that the outlook on the game has totally changed.

After MLG Dallas everyone was excited and motivated, a nobody like Naniwa could come and win a big prize pot and have money to continue his pro career and go to more tournaments and just really "go pro".

After last MLG, and even more after this one, people are questioning if they should even keep playing. Should they even bother going to MLG, since it is almost a sure thing to be a Korean sweep? It is just a really depressing feeling at that level of play right now. Even people like Idra is feeling it, it basically feels like western SC2 (EU and US) are too far behind to compete with KR SC2, and thus they might as well give up. Another few hours of training isn't gonna make it up, KR is months or years ahead right now.

In short, SC2 is starting to feel like SC1, and that will inevitably lead to the death of the strong western esports scene we have enjoyed the past year.

On August 01 2011 07:24 Spicy Pepper wrote:

The good old days when restaurants had "Whites Only" signs. GET OFF MY LAWN, YOU DAMN KIDS.

Given it's no longer exciting results, those MLG viewership numbers must have been dropping since Koreans have come over.

On August 01 2011 07:37 marvin. wrote:
Who knocked HuK out?

On August 01 2011 07:32 VGhost wrote:


It's not all bad. You've got teams like Liquid and Complexity practicing in Korea (at least on and off), FXO making a big commitment to Korea (both their own team and buying out a Korean branch), and of course players from Korea coming to foreign teams as well. To my knowledge (admittedly scanty), none of those things were happening in BW - there was Korea, and then there was WCG, and that was basically it in terms of big name events. Now we have NASL, MLG, Dreamhack, IPL at least - how much they last idk, of course.

On August 01 2011 07:35 YodaGoneMad wrote:


People always try to make it racist, its not, but you can go ahead and do your best to paint it that way.

Koreans don't speak our language, get our culture, participate in our scene, they aren't on the SC2 shows, they don't stream, they don't contribute anything at all to the western scene. Before this tournament the only Korean I knew anything about was Boxer. Thus, I can't just suddenly care about the results 5 guys I have never heard of post.

Because of all that, watching them play and win just isn't meaningful to me. I wanna watch some guy come outta nowhere and win it all. I wanna watch a guy like Destiny who I know come through the open bracket and have a chance(even though he has done bad, its an example, a western player who finally makes his name, that's exciting). It just isn't exciting to know on day one that the top X number of spots go to the X number of Koreans and one of them wins it.

Earlier on this MLG there was some exciting stuff, that Hawk guy that went through the open, and Tyler, and such. In the end though, it came out as I predicted, Koreans take all the money and the win, thus it is just a pretty boring event IMO.

On August 01 2011 07:35 YodaGoneMad wrote:


People always try to make it racist, its not, but you can go ahead and do your best to paint it that way.

Koreans don't speak our language, get our culture, participate in our scene, they aren't on the SC2 shows, they don't stream, they don't contribute anything at all to the western scene. Before this tournament the only Korean I knew anything about was Boxer. Thus, I can't just suddenly care about the results 5 guys I have never heard of post.

Because of all that, watching them play and win just isn't meaningful to me. I wanna watch some guy come outta nowhere and win it all. I wanna watch a guy like Destiny who I know come through the open bracket and have a chance(even though he has done bad, its an example, a western player who finally makes his name, that's exciting). It just isn't exciting to know on day one that the top X number of spots go to the X number of Koreans and one of them wins it.

Earlier on this MLG there was some exciting stuff, that Hawk guy that went through the open, and Tyler, and such. In the end though, it came out as I predicted, Koreans take all the money and the win, thus it is just a pretty boring event IMO.

On August 01 2011 07:36 MorroW wrote:
lol did he kill his own cc again? in the main base

the mutas only stayed to kill the scvs afaik and then left 2 mutas

On August 01 2011 07:24 Sated wrote:

He wants to go to Korea and everyone above him is Korean/Code S (HuK) so he gets a Code A seed regardless of whether or not he beats HuK... right? He probably cares more about the Code A placement than MLG points.

On August 01 2011 07:39 Alpino wrote:


The games are the exciting part, not the results. Rain vs Boxer man. Rain vs Boxer. I mean, if you like watching SC2, the games are the exciting part, if the SC2 pro-scene is like The Ultimate Figher or Big Brother to you it may get boring.