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referring to code-S...O wait...marineking vs IMMVP..nvm..that was just ownage
Well the only mirror we won't have or ever have..is pvp
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
referring to code-S...O wait...marineking vs IMMVP..nvm..that was just ownage Well the only mirror we won't have or ever have..is pvp | ||
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Yew
United States940 Posts
You're an idiot if you think this was balance whine. Saying a matchup is hard isn't balance whine. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:19 Jakkerr wrote: You can't really say they aren't worth it, there's a lot of unexplored tactics that were listed as worthless before but now they are getting more and more popular. Just cuz something isn't used that much doesn't mean it isn't potentially good. I base my opinions off hard facts, and I stay away from theorycraft shenanigans. Currently the way ravens have been shown points to them being useless tvz. Sure, they sound great in the ideal theorycrafter's scenario. Til top Korean pros utilize/show how to utilize them successfully the fact of the matter will be that they are not effective. Ultra/queen sounds good on paper - however I won't put any value to it until I see it actually succeed at the highest level of play possible. | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:22 QuantumPhysX wrote: Are you guys serious? O_O Losira can afford to "throw" units away because he has INSANE macro / when he is at 200/200 food. If you noticed, it was practically 2 base vs 5 base. Doesn't excuse his poor unit control | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:22 Baffels wrote: MVP vs MKP. There is a reason no one talks about it. This will be that 2.0  There's a reason why no one talks about any GSL finals, I had forgotten that Rain and July were runner-ups! | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:23 Oboeman wrote: a raven is the same speed as a medivac. Is every medivac floating around the marines a free kill for mutalisks? actually, it isn't. It's 2.25 vs Medivac 2.5 | ||
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EnSky
Philippines1003 Posts
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coReY425
Denmark86 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:20 Sc2Null wrote: I thought people liked losira...it seems everyone wants him to lose...I <3 losira =D A zvz finals would be epic. It would be the first mirror GSL finals...which means no imbalance crying. First mirror finals? Theres been several TvTs in code A, a PvP in code A, a TvT in code S and a TvT in the super tournament......... ... | ||
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:23 snafoo wrote: Beat TOP, beat Byun, not good at ZvT. yet idra loses to Tarson and his TvZ is considered his best matchup 0.o amoves banelings into tanks and thors, throws mutas away constantly, not good at ZvT. No one is saying anything about IdrA here. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:21 Sandermatt wrote: One of my favourite match ups to watch. I also cannot understand why most players do not like mirror matches. Maybe it is the rock paper scissor system of hatch first early pool and 14 gas 14 pool. I think its more the fact that it ends up being a roach/infestor vs roach/infestor battle a lot of the time. It feels a bit like a Zerg version of a 4gate | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:24 Tachion wrote: Nestea and Losira are pretty damn good at rock paper scissors then lol I meant its rock paper scissors when its gas/pool vs hatch first vs fast pool, but hatch first vs hatch first is like... rock vs rock lol.. so I guess its whoever wins the follow up :p | ||
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sraelgaiznaer
Philippines423 Posts
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:23 Medrea wrote: Ravens have kind of a ridiculous detection range. I guess if you are stimming across the map yeah it matters but tanks arent well known for being mobile anyway. And for defense well...... bases dont move fast. Check out TLO's upcoming and recently past games vs Zerg with Ravens. He uses it with a mech style more though, so it doesn't really count... | ||
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jackdaleaper
Philippines1216 Posts
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:20 kollin wrote: Yeah, I tend to do that all the time against Zergs, it can really help, as it's very very very hard to break out of. You can't bunker block a ramp on GSL maps and most of tournament versions of blizzard maps as well lol. | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
On July 25 2011 20:18 Asha` wrote: The problem with a Raven in the scenario Byun was in was that the first thing you do is stim and run your marines back to deal with it asap and they outpace your Raven so fast that you're playing "blind" very quickly again. If you wait on the Raven your opponent gets more free damage at the location they're attacking. I do agree a Raven with the main army is something that looks very likely to have to be implemented though, if Z continue to use burrow so effectively it's just going to become seriously cost ineffecient to not get one. Well, in this game only way Byun would have gotten a raven is if he had a 2nd starport. That's the thing most people don't realize. in this game, double medivacs > 1 raven because you have to support your main dmg army, which is the siege tanks. Ravens are useful, but you have to look at the situation Byun was in. he can't just magically create a raven out of thin air. | ||
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
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