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On July 19 2011 20:19 Sarang wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:17 Schwopzi wrote: Does everyone really think bomber is going to beat byun? Byun such a tvt beast, beating mvp, sc & nada in his run this gsl. Bomber's 2-0'd MMA, 3-1'd RyunG, 4-2'd Mvp and 2-0'd Polt.Prime. It's perfectly reasonable to predict either player to win.
You forget that he got 2-0'd by MarineKing(who doesn't have a stellar TvT)
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On July 19 2011 20:19 Fosjoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:15 Tachion wrote:On July 19 2011 20:15 Fosjoo wrote: Bomber is good, but with no results, and a bo7 vs nestea who is concidered the best player in the world vs bombers weakest matchupp there is no way he can win. He will get faceraped like a mongolian hebrew infidel.. belive me. ZvT is Nestea's weakest matchup as well. It won't be the highest quality of finals, but it might actually be close. Bomber wont get to the finals, he has to face buyn and most likely losira, both who will rape that smirk of bombers face.. bomber is sucky tvz its almost pathetic to watch him play that matchupp but hey? its fucking imbalanced atm so i cant blame bomber. tvt buyn is hardcore good. no son you are fucking wrong u dildo he wont have a chance. gg.
The fuck is wrong with you?
Insulting players, balance whine, insults ... are you trying to set a record for bad posting in an LR thread?
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On July 19 2011 20:06 Sernyl wrote: MC ain't the god toss anymore.Oh well. Those 4gates sure are exceptional.
He still is in any foreign tourney. But while he is out living the fast life. Koreans are getting better and he is a strong player overall but I can show you better players in all the P v matchups.
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Oh the irony. MC got his "godlike" PvP record from 4 gating. Post-patch his PvP is now negative. Yet people complain about 4 gating so much now when he loses.
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I think what happened was MC was going into his 1 gate into quick robo with 2 more gates, which I have seen him do several times and he never gets attacked. It was a really risky build and i think he realized HongUn was 4 gating too late and he made 2 gates instead. Otherwise the build makes no sense to me.
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I have my doubts as to whether Bomber will even get past Byun and Losira >.>. Seems nestea has caught on to that mass infestor strat vT as well so.... maybe next time bomber
Think we'll get a ZvZ final myself. Don't see how the hell Losira can beat Nestea either.
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On July 19 2011 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:15 Tachion wrote:On July 19 2011 20:15 Fosjoo wrote: Bomber is good, but with no results, and a bo7 vs nestea who is concidered the best player in the world vs bombers weakest matchupp there is no way he can win. He will get faceraped like a mongolian hebrew infidel.. belive me. ZvT is Nestea's weakest matchup as well. It won't be the highest quality of finals, but it might actually be close. I want losira vs nestea. student vs teacher but before the finals losira leaves IM and signs up with ST and becomes Fruitdealers apprentice, only to use banelings in all seven games. it's star wars all over again
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does anyone have some actual numbers of how much 4gating has been going on in PvP since the patch (at least in gsl)? because it doesn't seem to have changed at all.
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On July 19 2011 20:17 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:16 Yippicaya wrote:On July 19 2011 20:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 19 2011 20:10 mikyaJ wrote:On July 19 2011 20:09 HolyArrow wrote: HongUn needs to win the GSL so he can afford wrist surgery. IT'S PERFECT. He said that progaming was his "second dream" so he doesn't have the motivation anyway Yea. He said in his interview that he had "half given up" before this match. What is hongun like at his full power? I'm scared thinking about it How's it scary? All he did was 4 gate. Beating MC in PvP by 4 gating doesn't all of a sudden make you a great player. If 4gating is the superior strat then HongUn is smarter than MC.
Classic... MC loses 1 bo5 to hongun... now hes not as smart as hungun. My god this just gets sadder and sadder. Whoever wins the bo5 is automaticly the better player till they play again = 50% of the communities thought process. Saw this with WhiteRa vs MC in the GSL World. MC lost to WhiteRa and then everyone shouted out "OMG WHITERA BEST PROTOSS ALIVE"
it was a good series but if you are going to try to argue that HongUn is a better player then ... ehh i dont want to get banned. Thats all ill say
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On July 19 2011 20:18 Pajegetc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:17 Zinthar wrote:On July 19 2011 20:16 Pajegetc wrote:On July 19 2011 20:12 Valikyr wrote:On July 19 2011 20:10 Pajegetc wrote:On July 19 2011 20:08 Mioraka wrote:On July 19 2011 20:06 Fubi wrote: So much for the patch fixing PvP, it didn't change one bit the only thing that can stop razor thin 4 Warp gate is still a 4 warp gate. Thank you blizzard for a lame ass match up. MC lost a pvp series. CLEARLY THE MATCHUP IS BROKEN! The MU has been seen asbroken since release and protoss players have complained about it ever since. Of course it's brought up when MC loses to HongUnPrime when HongUn does nothing different than what a diamond player could pull off. As someone who used to absolutely hate pvp... I think the match up is perfectly fine now since the patch. Hell, I wish people 4 wged me more often so I can enjoy even more free wins. If you're implying that you could have held those 4 gates which MC did not, then, well... seek treatment. Yes, Easily. Will do.
Unless you're Naniwa or White Ra, you're not in the same zip code of skill level as HongUn & MC.
Edit: Zip codes are too small to make my point adequately. Too late to change it now though... damn!
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On July 19 2011 20:20 noddy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:19 Sarang wrote:On July 19 2011 20:17 Schwopzi wrote: Does everyone really think bomber is going to beat byun? Byun such a tvt beast, beating mvp, sc & nada in his run this gsl. Bomber's 2-0'd MMA, 3-1'd RyunG, 4-2'd Mvp and 2-0'd Polt.Prime. It's perfectly reasonable to predict either player to win. You forget that he got 2-0'd by MarineKing(who doesn't have a stellar TvT)
Wasn't that in the Gainward tournament, which occured ages ago?
If so, Bomber's TvT has improved tremendously since then. In fact I'm pretty sure it was considered his worst matchup when he first entered Code A.
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On July 19 2011 20:18 KayZ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:17 Rybaia wrote:On July 19 2011 20:10 NotSoSerious wrote: Just move the WP upgrade to council or whatever,this is not fun to watch or play...and no,i'm not a MC cryfan,but 4gate is embarrassing,you shouldn't be allowed to get so far into a tournament just cause you can execute 1 simple build. So we can die in every other MU at the 5 minute mark? PvP is not easy to patch without fucking up every other MU get over it. Or maybe you can produce units out of your gateways instead of waiting till warpgate tech to make units?
I don't think you understand that it takes too long to make units out of gateways. Especially with 1 Nexus, there isn't enough chrono to keep up.
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On July 19 2011 20:21 ramon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 19 2011 20:15 Tachion wrote:On July 19 2011 20:15 Fosjoo wrote: Bomber is good, but with no results, and a bo7 vs nestea who is concidered the best player in the world vs bombers weakest matchupp there is no way he can win. He will get faceraped like a mongolian hebrew infidel.. belive me. ZvT is Nestea's weakest matchup as well. It won't be the highest quality of finals, but it might actually be close. I want losira vs nestea. student vs teacher but before the finals losira leaves IM and signs up with ST and becomes Fruitdealers apprentice, only to use banelings in all seven games. it's star wars all over again I am not sure why I found this so funny, well played nevertheless ^^
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On July 19 2011 20:21 JoeSchmoe wrote: does anyone have some actual numbers of how much 4gating has been going on in PvP since the patch (at least in gsl)? because it doesn't seem to have changed at all.
To be honest it get even more popular,cos people think no one 4gates anymore
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On July 19 2011 20:19 Fosjoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:15 Tachion wrote:On July 19 2011 20:15 Fosjoo wrote: Bomber is good, but with no results, and a bo7 vs nestea who is concidered the best player in the world vs bombers weakest matchupp there is no way he can win. He will get faceraped like a mongolian hebrew infidel.. belive me. ZvT is Nestea's weakest matchup as well. It won't be the highest quality of finals, but it might actually be close. Bomber wont get to the finals, he has to face buyn and most likely losira, both who will rape that smirk of bombers face.. bomber is sucky tvz its almost pathetic to watch him play that matchupp but hey? its fucking imbalanced atm so i cant blame bomber. tvt buyn is hardcore good. no son you are fucking wrong u dildo he wont have a chance. gg. Wow
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On July 19 2011 20:21 JoeSchmoe wrote: does anyone have some actual numbers of how much 4gating has been going on in PvP since the patch (at least in gsl)? because it doesn't seem to have changed at all.
Well people were trying other stuff for a while especially outside Korea, but then everyone realied that the odds are still in favour of a tradition Korean low econ four gate every game.
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On July 19 2011 20:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:16 HolyArrow wrote: I wonder if people realize that HongUn has made the semifinals twice and Ro8 twice in the GSL now, making him the second most successful Protoss in the GSL. Guy really doesn't get enough credit. He is truly one of the more underrated players. He even made carriers in the open season! Total baller. I believe he had one of the best overall average finishes during the open seasons
He's not underrated, he's plain uninspiring when winning, and just bad when he's losing.
Winning 3 PvPs with 4 warp gate doesn't make him good.
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On July 19 2011 20:20 Sarang wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:19 Fosjoo wrote:On July 19 2011 20:15 Tachion wrote:On July 19 2011 20:15 Fosjoo wrote: Bomber is good, but with no results, and a bo7 vs nestea who is concidered the best player in the world vs bombers weakest matchupp there is no way he can win. He will get faceraped like a mongolian hebrew infidel.. belive me. ZvT is Nestea's weakest matchup as well. It won't be the highest quality of finals, but it might actually be close. Bomber wont get to the finals, he has to face buyn and most likely losira, both who will rape that smirk of bombers face.. bomber is sucky tvz its almost pathetic to watch him play that matchupp but hey? its fucking imbalanced atm so i cant blame bomber. tvt buyn is hardcore good. no son you are fucking wrong u dildo he wont have a chance. gg. The fuck is wrong with you? Insulting players, balance whine, insults ... are you trying to set a record for bad posting in an LR thread? Sorry it was a misstype, gona fix it.. not beeing bm just very angry at ppl who think bomber is the best terran atm.
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On July 19 2011 20:21 Zinthar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:18 Pajegetc wrote:On July 19 2011 20:17 Zinthar wrote:On July 19 2011 20:16 Pajegetc wrote:On July 19 2011 20:12 Valikyr wrote:On July 19 2011 20:10 Pajegetc wrote:On July 19 2011 20:08 Mioraka wrote:On July 19 2011 20:06 Fubi wrote: So much for the patch fixing PvP, it didn't change one bit the only thing that can stop razor thin 4 Warp gate is still a 4 warp gate. Thank you blizzard for a lame ass match up. MC lost a pvp series. CLEARLY THE MATCHUP IS BROKEN! The MU has been seen asbroken since release and protoss players have complained about it ever since. Of course it's brought up when MC loses to HongUnPrime when HongUn does nothing different than what a diamond player could pull off. As someone who used to absolutely hate pvp... I think the match up is perfectly fine now since the patch. Hell, I wish people 4 wged me more often so I can enjoy even more free wins. If you're implying that you could have held those 4 gates which MC did not, then, well... seek treatment. Yes, Easily. Will do. Unless you're Naniwa or White Ra, you're not in the same zip code of skill level as HongUn & MC.
Or maybe I'm just that confident in my pvp.
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On July 19 2011 20:21 ramon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 19 2011 20:15 Tachion wrote:On July 19 2011 20:15 Fosjoo wrote: Bomber is good, but with no results, and a bo7 vs nestea who is concidered the best player in the world vs bombers weakest matchupp there is no way he can win. He will get faceraped like a mongolian hebrew infidel.. belive me. ZvT is Nestea's weakest matchup as well. It won't be the highest quality of finals, but it might actually be close. I want losira vs nestea. student vs teacher but before the finals losira leaves IM and signs up with ST and becomes Fruitdealers apprentice, only to use banelings in all seven games. it's star wars all over again Fruitdealer is not bad-ass enough to be a Sith Lord.
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