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On August 05 2011 01:54 Therg wrote:
I'm surprised so many people want Stephano and Brat_OK to be DQ-ed. This phenomena happens in big sports events as well. Rather blame the tournament structure than the players imo.
On August 05 2011 01:45 CraZyWayne wrote:
What the fuck? Why do you people complain? The next time they will make it less obvious with the same outcome nevertheless. It's just all about these shitty rules.
I don't understand either. Why would you blame players? It's the system that makes them wish to lose. And what would be formal reason for DQ anyways? BC rush? 6 pool? How that could be reason for DQ? And there is easy solution: just randomize opponents as they did at Dreamhack.
BTW it was really funny and entertaining games 
On August 05 2011 01:58 Pirat6662001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 01:57 ZiRn1tRa wrote:
Obviously, SEn should be disqualified for losing to SarenS and causing this mess.... First great suggestion from TL forums! make it so
I second this.
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On August 05 2011 02:34 sekritzzz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 02:30 Talin wrote:On August 05 2011 02:28 sekritzzz wrote:On August 05 2011 02:26 Talin wrote:On August 05 2011 02:24 sekritzzz wrote:On August 05 2011 02:21 zergules wrote:
Throwing a game is not being a good sportsman. Sure it might be better for your tournament placement, but it shows you don't have the drive to win whatever the cost. Not to mention that it is disrespectful to Sarens, the audience, and the tournament, not to mention the other players who didn't make it into the brackets. boo hoo, cry a river whiny Suzy. People are here to win, not to entertain zergules. Do you really think they're here to win if they're so confident in losing to SEn (a player they would have to face in the brackets soon enough anyway)? I don't mind the series they played personally, but it's obvious neither of them believes they have any chance to go far in the tournament. It's a shame, but oh well. Are you playing dumb or just oblivious to who Brat_Ok or Stephano are? No, I'm just explaining to you why your argument of "they want to win" is false. No you're just bad at being smart. Nestea can probably beat MarineKing, IMMvp and OgsMc, but he'd be an idiot if he picked them in his group play over other lower tier players. You see why stephano and brat_ok don't want to chose sen?
So you're saying MC is an idiot for picking MVP over "lesser players" in his group, and picking a group right next to NesTea's. Okay.
NesTea may have preferences over when he wants to face which opponents (which in GSL actually makes sense because of prize distribution, but not so much in Assembly where you need to make top 4 to win any money at all), but can you see him shitting his pants to the point where he will throw group games to avoid them? I don't think so.
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I hope they both lose 1st round now, it's legal but it's lame, where is the glory on that?
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You shouldnt compare this to Germany's Gijon game 1982 or the Denmark Sweden game, because those were actually hurting a 3rd team. Its rather comparable to this one:
Barbados vs Grenada
where the FIFA introduced some absurd rule which lead to one team having to shoot an own goal to maintain a chance to get out of their qualification group. People shouldnt be so uptight about those bratok vs stephano games, those will just be hilarious curiosities like that football match..
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On August 05 2011 02:47 chestnutman wrote:You shouldnt compare this to Germany's Gijon game 1982 or the Denmark Sweden game, because those were actually hurting a 3rd team. Its rather comparable to this one: Barbados vs Grenadawhere the FIFA introduced some absurd rule which lead to one team having to shoot an own goal to maintain a chance to get out of their qualification group. People shouldnt be so uptight about those bratok vs stephano games, those will just be hilarious curiosities like that football match..
wish i could have watched that
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Seriously, you're still discussing this an hour later? They didn't even throw the games but provided an interesting series to watch. This hypocritical talk about this "hurting esports" is needless, when this is usual business in other sports and noone will care after tonight is over.
Looking forward to the last two groups.
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On August 05 2011 02:41 asperger wrote:
So do you guys have any predictions during the downtime? Will there be anything stopping our Koreans Nada and Huk? Sjow and Dimaga look like the great foreign contenders to me.
Kinda late, but I actually think there might be an upset over NaDa  .
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On August 05 2011 02:46 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 02:34 sekritzzz wrote:On August 05 2011 02:30 Talin wrote:On August 05 2011 02:28 sekritzzz wrote:On August 05 2011 02:26 Talin wrote:On August 05 2011 02:24 sekritzzz wrote:On August 05 2011 02:21 zergules wrote:
Throwing a game is not being a good sportsman. Sure it might be better for your tournament placement, but it shows you don't have the drive to win whatever the cost. Not to mention that it is disrespectful to Sarens, the audience, and the tournament, not to mention the other players who didn't make it into the brackets. boo hoo, cry a river whiny Suzy. People are here to win, not to entertain zergules. Do you really think they're here to win if they're so confident in losing to SEn (a player they would have to face in the brackets soon enough anyway)? I don't mind the series they played personally, but it's obvious neither of them believes they have any chance to go far in the tournament. It's a shame, but oh well. Are you playing dumb or just oblivious to who Brat_Ok or Stephano are? No, I'm just explaining to you why your argument of "they want to win" is false. No you're just bad at being smart. Nestea can probably beat MarineKing, IMMvp and OgsMc, but he'd be an idiot if he picked them in his group play over other lower tier players. You see why stephano and brat_ok don't want to chose sen? So you're saying MC is an idiot for picking MVP over "lesser players" in his group, and picking a group right next to NesTea's. Okay. NesTea may have preferences over when he wants to face which opponents (which in GSL actually makes sense because of prize distribution, but not so much in Assembly where you need to make top 4 to win any money at all), but can you see him shitting his pants to the point where he will throw group games to avoid them? I don't think so.
You seriously think they're shitting their pants lol? The fact that the top 4 get money in assembly is exactly why they'd have done it, because they want to get as far into the tournament as possible before meeting the likes of Sen. BratOK knows he can beat SarenS tvt, so it's the best possible chance for him to get towards the money, it was a smart decision.
Unless he gets DQ'd.
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On August 05 2011 02:41 asperger wrote:
So do you guys have any predictions during the downtime? Will there be anything stopping our Koreans Nada and Huk? Sjow and Dimaga look like the great foreign contenders to me.
I think the only person who has the chance to beat huk is morrow with his new mass ling style he's been perfecting against protoss lately.
Dimaga is good but let's be honest his group wasn't exactly that hard.
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Mana vs Darkforce on Khaldors stream
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On August 05 2011 02:59 forgottendreams wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 02:41 asperger wrote:
So do you guys have any predictions during the downtime? Will there be anything stopping our Koreans Nada and Huk? Sjow and Dimaga look like the great foreign contenders to me. I think the only person who has the chance to beat huk is morrow with his new mass ling style he's been perfecting against protoss lately. Dimaga is good but let's be honest his group wasn't exactly that hard.
Stephano just beat Huk at HSC3.
I'm still not convinced Huk has the best PvZ, so I think Dimaga, Stephano and Morrow all have a fair shot at beating Huk.
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On August 05 2011 02:59 forgottendreams wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 02:41 asperger wrote:
So do you guys have any predictions during the downtime? Will there be anything stopping our Koreans Nada and Huk? Sjow and Dimaga look like the great foreign contenders to me. I think the only person who has the chance to beat huk is morrow with his new mass ling style he's been perfecting against protoss lately. Dimaga is good but let's be honest his group wasn't exactly that hard.
The foreigner contenders are Huk Sen and Dimaga.
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On August 05 2011 02:59 forgottendreams wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 02:41 asperger wrote:
So do you guys have any predictions during the downtime? Will there be anything stopping our Koreans Nada and Huk? Sjow and Dimaga look like the great foreign contenders to me. I think the only person who has the chance to beat huk is morrow with his new mass ling style he's been perfecting against protoss lately. Dimaga is good but let's be honest his group wasn't exactly that hard.
Stephano or SEn both can beat Huk. I don't know about MorroW or DIMAGA. Huk is really good.
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TotalBiscuit is SOOOO NERVOUS when hes got the camera on him hahahaha!
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How many matches did I miss? I opened the Totalbiscuit stream just now...
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On August 05 2011 03:01 Bleak wrote:
How many matches did I miss? I opened the Totalbiscuit stream just now...
This many.
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On August 05 2011 03:01 Hopp wrote:
TotalBiscuit is SOOOO NERVOUS when hes got the camera on him hahahaha!
Yeah, it shows that he is a radio commentator, though i think he will get more used to it the more we demand tournaments to hire him :p
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I just watched the series... my goodness you people are blowing this out of proportion.
It's not like either player decided to forfeit. They still played and tried to win with very very unconventional (stupid) strategies. It was fun and entertaining and definitely a good show.
I don't see the problem lol
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are guys have your stream lagging ???
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