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ASUS ROG Tournament - ASSEMBLY Summer 2011 - Page 80

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Stay positive, be happy and enjoy the event. Caster bashing and player bashing? Too much whining? Uh-oh!
lord_nibbler
Profile Joined March 2004
Germany591 Posts
August 04 2011 17:28 GMT
#1581
On August 05 2011 02:23 MekTypro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:22 ZAiNs wrote:
Is Huk's group being played in 30 mins?


1 hour and 30 mn.

I am pretty sure it is in 30min...
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
August 04 2011 17:29 GMT
#1582
On August 05 2011 02:28 lord_nibbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:23 MekTypro wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:22 ZAiNs wrote:
Is Huk's group being played in 30 mins?


1 hour and 30 mn.

I am pretty sure it is in 30min...


I reinforce your security, it is indeed 30 min
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 04 2011 17:29 GMT
#1583
Oh nice, Nada and Huk might end up on opposite sides of the bracket.
exarchrum
Profile Joined August 2010
United States491 Posts
August 04 2011 17:29 GMT
#1584
Just woke up, are there still games on today?
justin.tv/exarch watch me play!
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
August 04 2011 17:30 GMT
#1585
On August 05 2011 02:21 CoR wrote:
stup this stupid argue plz with the "dq if it seems you want to lose" they had to dq TLO every game cause the style bratok played vs stephano is tlo's standard game

Ouch! That's painful, but also sort of true. Good luck to TLO though - I thought he was done for about an hour ago and came back to see he advanced haha.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 04 2011 17:30 GMT
#1586
On August 05 2011 02:29 exarchrum wrote:
Just woke up, are there still games on today?

The last 2 groups have yet to play.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 17:31:16
August 04 2011 17:30 GMT
#1587
On August 05 2011 02:28 sekritzzz wrote:
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On August 05 2011 02:26 Talin wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:24 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:21 zergules wrote:
Throwing a game is not being a good sportsman. Sure it might be better for your tournament placement, but it shows you don't have the drive to win whatever the cost. Not to mention that it is disrespectful to Sarens, the audience, and the tournament, not to mention the other players who didn't make it into the brackets.

boo hoo, cry a river whiny Suzy. People are here to win, not to entertain zergules.


Do you really think they're here to win if they're so confident in losing to SEn (a player they would have to face in the brackets soon enough anyway)?

I don't mind the series they played personally, but it's obvious neither of them believes they have any chance to go far in the tournament. It's a shame, but oh well.

Are you playing dumb or just oblivious to who Brat_Ok or Stephano are?


No, I'm just explaining to you why your argument of "they want to win" is false as they themselves don't believe they can win.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 17:31:09
August 04 2011 17:30 GMT
#1588
On August 05 2011 02:29 Drey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:28 lord_nibbler wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:23 MekTypro wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:22 ZAiNs wrote:
Is Huk's group being played in 30 mins?


1 hour and 30 mn.

I am pretty sure it is in 30min...


I reinforce your security, it is indeed 30 min


Or a little easier to remember:
03:00 TeamLiquid (Korean) Time
zergules
Profile Joined July 2010
United States55 Posts
August 04 2011 17:33 GMT
#1589
On August 05 2011 02:24 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:21 zergules wrote:
Throwing a game is not being a good sportsman. Sure it might be better for your tournament placement, but it shows you don't have the drive to win whatever the cost. Not to mention that it is disrespectful to Sarens, the audience, and the tournament, not to mention the other players who didn't make it into the brackets.

boo hoo, cry a river whiny Suzy. People are here to win, not to entertain zergules.


But, they aren't playing to win if they are trying to intentionally lose because they don't think they can beat Sen.
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 17:35:16
August 04 2011 17:34 GMT
#1590
On August 05 2011 02:30 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:28 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:26 Talin wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:24 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:21 zergules wrote:
Throwing a game is not being a good sportsman. Sure it might be better for your tournament placement, but it shows you don't have the drive to win whatever the cost. Not to mention that it is disrespectful to Sarens, the audience, and the tournament, not to mention the other players who didn't make it into the brackets.

boo hoo, cry a river whiny Suzy. People are here to win, not to entertain zergules.


Do you really think they're here to win if they're so confident in losing to SEn (a player they would have to face in the brackets soon enough anyway)?

I don't mind the series they played personally, but it's obvious neither of them believes they have any chance to go far in the tournament. It's a shame, but oh well.

Are you playing dumb or just oblivious to who Brat_Ok or Stephano are?


No, I'm just explaining to you why your argument of "they want to win" is false.

No you're just bad at being smart. Nestea can probably beat MarineKing, IMMvp and OgsMc, but he'd be an idiot if he picked them in his group play over other lower tier players. You see why stephano and brat_ok don't want to chose sen?


Please wikipedia brat_ok and stephano, you obviously have no idea who they are or what they are capable of. Throwing your theory crafting all over the place.

On August 05 2011 02:33 zergules wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:24 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:21 zergules wrote:
Throwing a game is not being a good sportsman. Sure it might be better for your tournament placement, but it shows you don't have the drive to win whatever the cost. Not to mention that it is disrespectful to Sarens, the audience, and the tournament, not to mention the other players who didn't make it into the brackets.

boo hoo, cry a river whiny Suzy. People are here to win, not to entertain zergules.


But, they aren't playing to win if they are trying to intentionally lose because they don't think they can beat Sen.

Read above. Being stupid throws you out of tourneys.
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
August 04 2011 17:34 GMT
#1591
On August 05 2011 02:11 bennedik wrote:
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On August 05 2011 02:08 Tanukki wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:02 bennedik wrote:
I am in Helsinki and have a day off tomorrow. Is it possible to go to Assembly just to watch the Starcraft tournament? On the website they seem to be talking about the players only, but I would just want to watch.


You'll need a pass to enter. I think they're still selling them at the doors, but it costs 40€.


40€ would be OK, but do they have a big screen and commentary for the fans to watch the games?


The games commentated by TB and Apollo can be watched on the Powerplay area, except for the final match which will be on the main stage.

Ro16 is 11.00-14.00 local time, Ro8 14.00-15.30. Not all of these games will be casted.

The finals will all be casted, they're from 18.00 onwards, with the final match at around 23.00.
Palace
Profile Joined January 2011
16 Posts
August 04 2011 17:34 GMT
#1592
On August 05 2011 01:38 shell wrote:
lol thats why playoffs should be random, with each 1st placed getting a random 2nd placed!

but it was funny indeed!

This will bring another shit fest i'm afraid..


You are a wise man, sire. Gooooo Stephanoooo
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 04 2011 17:35 GMT
#1593
On August 05 2011 02:21 CoR wrote:
stup this stupid argue plz with the "dq if it seems you want to lose" they had to dq TLO every game cause the style bratok played vs stephano is tlo's standard game


Hahaha
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 04 2011 17:37 GMT
#1594
On August 05 2011 02:34 sekritzzz wrote:
No you're just bad at being smart. Nestea can probably beat MarineKing, IMMvp and OgsMc, but he'd be an idiot if he picked them in his group play over other lower tier players. You see why stephano and brat_ok don't want to chose sen?

I think Nestea should be DQd from GSL for choosing low tier players in his brackets during the group picks. They should always take the best one head on.
The legend of Darien lives on
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 17:41:21
August 04 2011 17:40 GMT
#1595
On August 05 2011 02:37 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:34 sekritzzz wrote:
No you're just bad at being smart. Nestea can probably beat MarineKing, IMMvp and OgsMc, but he'd be an idiot if he picked them in his group play over other lower tier players. You see why stephano and brat_ok don't want to chose sen?

I think Nestea should be DQd from GSL for choosing low tier players in his brackets during the group picks. They should always take the best one head on.

I agree DQ Nestea for picking monthly 70,000$ over having "competitive spirit". Who wouldn't want competitive spirit?
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
August 04 2011 17:41 GMT
#1596
On August 05 2011 02:37 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:34 sekritzzz wrote:
No you're just bad at being smart. Nestea can probably beat MarineKing, IMMvp and OgsMc, but he'd be an idiot if he picked them in his group play over other lower tier players. You see why stephano and brat_ok don't want to chose sen?

I think Nestea should be DQd from GSL for choosing low tier players in his brackets during the group picks. They should always take the best one head on.



O_o
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
August 04 2011 17:41 GMT
#1597
So do you guys have any predictions during the downtime? Will there be anything stopping our Koreans Nada and Huk? Sjow and Dimaga look like the great foreign contenders to me.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
zergules
Profile Joined July 2010
United States55 Posts
August 04 2011 17:41 GMT
#1598
On August 05 2011 02:34 sekritzzz wrote:
No you're just bad at being smart. Nestea can probably beat MarineKing, IMMvp and OgsMc, but he'd be an idiot if he picked them in his group play over other lower tier players. You see why stephano and brat_ok don't want to chose sen?



Picking a group is very different than throwing a game. Of course, given the choice you face the weaker opponent.

There's no argument about why they did what they did. It's smart for them. But you can't say it's how a true champion plays. If they really want to win they'd have to beat Sen eventually anyway.

I merely pointed out that it wasn't sportsman like or respectful.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 04 2011 17:42 GMT
#1599
On August 05 2011 02:37 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:34 sekritzzz wrote:
No you're just bad at being smart. Nestea can probably beat MarineKing, IMMvp and OgsMc, but he'd be an idiot if he picked them in his group play over other lower tier players. You see why stephano and brat_ok don't want to chose sen?

I think Nestea should be DQd from GSL for choosing low tier players in his brackets during the group picks. They should always take the best one head on.

Just like MC did by choosing MVP in his group. But wait, he did that because he's good at TvP, MVP is worse at TvP, and that means MVP will most likely get 2nd in group and meet Nestea next round, thus getting an elimination of his his biggest 2 opponents in a finals. That's some pretty good group picking tactics.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
August 04 2011 17:45 GMT
#1600
On August 05 2011 02:33 zergules wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 02:24 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 05 2011 02:21 zergules wrote:
Throwing a game is not being a good sportsman. Sure it might be better for your tournament placement, but it shows you don't have the drive to win whatever the cost. Not to mention that it is disrespectful to Sarens, the audience, and the tournament, not to mention the other players who didn't make it into the brackets.

boo hoo, cry a river whiny Suzy. People are here to win, not to entertain zergules.


But, they aren't playing to win if they are trying to intentionally lose because they don't think they can beat Sen.

Let us say you are competing a 3-round single-elim tourney (8 players). Apart from you there are 3 strong players and 4 weak players. You have a 60% chance of beating a strong player in a series and a 70% chance of beating a weak player in a series. You are clearly the best player there, but if you are unlucky enough to face all 3 strong players you have a 21.6% chance of winning the tourney. If you face 2 strong players you have a 25.2% chance of winning. If you face 1 strong player you have a 29.4% chance of winning and if you never face any strong player, then you have a 34.3% chance of winning. So despite being the best player you want to minimize the number of strong players you meet. You are very likely to meet a strong player in the finals, and you are pretty likely to meet one in round 2, but if you can avoid one in round 1, then you are much better off. Similar concerns obviously goes into meeting Sen even if you believe you are as good or even better than him. This applies even more so when you consider specific strengths. For instance brak_ok is strong tvt so he would like to face Sarens, and Sen is a beast zvz.
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