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Hey guys - These games are meant to be fun and for your entertainment. Caster and Player bashing will not be tolerated. Manner please!

Also, this is a Live Report thread - not the place to discuss your displeasure with the event or any of the people involved with it.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 11 2011 07:50 GMT
#11761
On July 11 2011 16:37 jimjimchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 16:35 Klogon wrote:
On July 11 2011 16:29 jimjimchoi wrote:
did you guys know one of the top NA players is combatex? if winning is what all that matters then combatex would be considered a top NA player.


Are you just trolling or are you serious?

i was being sarcastic, trying to say winning isn't everything


Winning is everything, but no one cares about ladder.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 11 2011 07:56 GMT
#11762
On July 11 2011 16:37 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:
No, (T)PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than (P)NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL.

I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague

Sure, this run has been insane. But it isn't as great as NaNiwa's, MLG's Open Bracket is -brutal- while NASL's is way more forgiving.


NASL's open bracket is much harder, there's actually good players there. Naniwa's open bracket run was basically crushing a load of jobber nerds who never stood a chance (see July beating five of them in under an hour). Plus Naniwa's MLG win featured zero Koreans. the MLG Open Bracket is a joke for top players.

Puma beat Dimaga, Clide, Alive, Nightend, Ret, Squirtle, July, MC.

That is way harder than Naniwa's Pokebunny, Vibe, Tyler, Agh, Drewbie, Machine, Kiwikaki, Select.

Any Code S Korean would take out the players Naniwa did without many problems.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 07:59:37
July 11 2011 07:58 GMT
#11763
On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:
No, (T)PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than (P)NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL.

I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague


Agree, the open bracket winner was being a beast. It's like people who qualified for the TSL battling through 1024 men tourneys, this way of qualifying ensure that a good and deserving player will advance.

btw, didn't knew about esfiworld, nice site, I like it ^^
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 11 2011 08:02 GMT
#11764
On July 11 2011 16:58 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:
No, (T)PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than (P)NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL.

I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague


Agree, the open bracket winner was being a beast. It's like people who qualified for the TSL battling through 1024 men tourneys, this way of qualifying ensure that a good and deserving player will advance.

btw, didn't knew about esfiworld, nice site, I like it ^^

There were only 198 players I believe who ended up registering for the Open Tourney. But still the calibre of players was really high.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1434 Posts
July 11 2011 08:23 GMT
#11765
best finals yet !
mada mada dane
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
July 11 2011 08:31 GMT
#11766
How were the games? I missed them. Any info on when vods will turn up?
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
July 11 2011 08:36 GMT
#11767
its funny that MC mentioned Puma during his GSL interview that he'd be able to win the NASL if he managed to avoid Puma.

and it turned out to be true... lol
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 11 2011 08:40 GMT
#11768
On July 11 2011 16:42 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 16:37 Elem wrote:
On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:
No, (T)PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than (P)NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL.

I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague

Sure, this run has been insane. But it isn't as great as NaNiwa's, MLG's Open Bracket is -brutal- while NASL's is way more forgiving.

Considering MLG's Open Bracket is double elimination and 4 people can come out from it, this is just flat out wrong. The only reason MLG's open bracket is more brutal is that there are/were approximately 60-70 more people in it, but again you're fighting for 4 spots rather than 1 and you've got double eliminations.

The main issue here is the invited NASL players had been spending 9 weeks, some even having to wake up at wee-early morning hours to play and there wasn't much room to reschedule. To have someone who won a 1 week online event come in and take their prize is somewhat unappealing (for lack of a better word).

But he deserved it, and it's the way the format was from the start. Players knew it. You just have to run with it.

Max of 30 games over 10 weeks, not a big deal. The guys play 30+ games a day. If they did not like format they should have not put their name in NASL hat and not made video, just enter open. But that's true single elimination not 4x like darkhorse or 3x loss like MC so of course it's preferred to get a seed instead.
MC for president
DOOMy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark85 Posts
July 11 2011 08:48 GMT
#11769
What an amazing final! :D
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 11 2011 09:13 GMT
#11770
On July 11 2011 16:04 Aterons_toss wrote:
Poor poor MC, he could have owned puma in a macro game on crev anytime even with the bad pos he had, i think he is just to confident in his semi all ins... still he managed to come back only to kill 10 zealots into a bunker and then loss ;(

Way over committed to that not even a proper 4 gate but a 3 gate. Got cocky and built 200 minerals worth of pylons in PuMa's base and two more outside, that's 400 minerals that could have been used for an expo. Basically not poor MC, poor play by MC. Remember his weakness: overconfidence. Sure he had a better shot playing standard but he went a little crazy thus he deserved to lose. Hopefully he learns from mistakes.
MC for president
crystyxn
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 09:19:34
July 11 2011 09:19 GMT
#11771
i missed the finals, is there any way to watch them recorded? I want to hear the crowd scream!!
"You should be the one putting pressure on your opponent, not the other way around." - Artosis
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
July 11 2011 09:24 GMT
#11772
On July 11 2011 18:19 crystyxn wrote:
i missed the finals, is there any way to watch them recorded? I want to hear the crowd scream!!


ofc, u need to buy for 10$ NASL Season Ticket.
I'm getting the derection.
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
July 11 2011 09:31 GMT
#11773
I was so pissed last night, my W-LAN automatically d/c at 1:30AM -.-, this was the time when the 7th game started
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
July 11 2011 09:37 GMT
#11774
On July 11 2011 18:31 FinnGamer wrote:
I was so pissed last night, my W-LAN automatically d/c at 1:30AM -.-, this was the time when the 7th game started


Ouch that sucks dude
/commercial
ShLiM
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria178 Posts
July 11 2011 09:39 GMT
#11775
guys where i can watch free VODs for the finals?
IBASI ZMIQTA
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 09:40:25
July 11 2011 09:39 GMT
#11776
So despite a million group games, a last-minute invite was the winner of the tournament?

I'm not trolling, I'm asking. I mean, I don't see him in the players list, I didn't watch every game, but really an invite won the tournament right?

Ironic, right?

Anyways, the NASL finals and entire tournament was amazing. Gretorp is an amazing caster imo, one of the 3 analytical casters besides artosis and idra. You guys did amazing! I usually hate TvP too, but these were great games.
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sOda~
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom441 Posts
July 11 2011 09:50 GMT
#11777
On July 11 2011 18:39 Belial88 wrote:
So despite a million group games, a last-minute invite was the winner of the tournament?

I'm not trolling, I'm asking. I mean, I don't see him in the players list, I didn't watch every game, but really an invite won the tournament right?

Ironic, right?

Anyways, the NASL finals and entire tournament was amazing. Gretorp is an amazing caster imo, one of the 3 analytical casters besides artosis and idra. You guys did amazing! I usually hate TvP too, but these were great games.


puma won the open bracket
IM THE SHIT BITCH
adv1k
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada12 Posts
July 11 2011 09:53 GMT
#11778
squirtle will get one round farther this time and pwn some face, SWUIRTLE FIGHTTTTING>
I am a GIANT CRYING BABY, What up brah?
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
July 11 2011 09:53 GMT
#11779
On July 11 2011 18:39 Belial88 wrote:
So despite a million group games, a last-minute invite was the winner of the tournament?

I'm not trolling, I'm asking. I mean, I don't see him in the players list, I didn't watch every game, but really an invite won the tournament right?

Ironic, right?

Anyways, the NASL finals and entire tournament was amazing. Gretorp is an amazing caster imo, one of the 3 analytical casters besides artosis and idra. You guys did amazing! I usually hate TvP too, but these were great games.


No the last minute invite was aLive (who still placed 2nd in the open bracket, he didnt get an invite out of nowhere) and he lost on first round to darkforce.

Puma was the winner of the open bracket, which was stacked like crazy.
Romanes eunt domus
Binabik
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany686 Posts
July 11 2011 09:53 GMT
#11780
On July 11 2011 18:39 Belial88 wrote:
So despite a million group games, a last-minute invite was the winner of the tournament?

I'm not trolling, I'm asking. I mean, I don't see him in the players list, I didn't watch every game, but really an invite won the tournament right?

Ironic, right?

Anyways, the NASL finals and entire tournament was amazing. Gretorp is an amazing caster imo, one of the 3 analytical casters besides artosis and idra. You guys did amazing! I usually hate TvP too, but these were great games.

He's not an invite, he won a tournament for the 16th spot.
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