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On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:No,  PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than  NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL. I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague
Probably not in 2011. He's good definitely, but he's been hyped for way too long and has yet to make it to Code A. Yeah the past couple of weeks has sort of been his coming out party with the 3-kill against Prime and couple of non-GSL wins, but he's still got a long way to go. Qualifying for Code A next weekend will be his next task.
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On July 11 2011 16:08 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:No, PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL. I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague Probably not in 2011. He's good definitely, but he's been hyped for way too long and has yet to make it to Code A. Yeah the past couple of weeks has sort of been his coming out party with the 3-kill against Prime and couple of non-GSL wins, but he's still got a long way to go. Qualifying for Code A next weekend will be his next task.
Puma hasn't really been hyped at all long term. Not like Bomber was. Most of his hype is from the ICCUP Weekly tournament and winning the NASL Open Tournament, people who watched that realise this guy was a bit special, which led into his vs Prime GSTL exploits. A combination of the three meant that those in the know fancied his as a favourite alongside MC for the NASL, which is exactly what happened.
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On July 11 2011 15:59 jimjimchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 14:58 Tyrr wrote:On July 11 2011 14:48 eXNewB wrote:
I just got to check results and was really surprised that the finals were so close! Congratulations to PuMa!!!!!!!!
As for everyone arguing about HuK, come on man the kid took how long to finally get into code S? He just started banging out wins, if he continues on this streak for awhile then we'll start talkin! It took HuK 1 try. nope it didnt huk has been in korea quite a long time a month less then jinro
No it really did take him only one try. He got a foreigner invite to code A via gom and then beat 2 zergs and won a PvP in the up downs to get into code S.
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So, when will there be information for the NASL season 2? I am interested to see, what format changes there are (I heard they thrink the number of players participating in the league to 45???) and who will replace InControl in the casting.
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On July 11 2011 16:05 jimjimchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 15:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 11 2011 15:26 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Hero Really? Damn, so Hero took out Puma and DRG, dude was on fire that day I guess. yup hero was on fire when you are on fire you can take anyone out, and on bad days even gsl winners can fall down to code A *cough Mvp cough* that's why nasl format is good because even if u have a bad day you still have 9 weeks to prove yourself, that's why only the best got into the nasl finals, and the best of the best got the money.
I also like the NASL format on a competitive level, the main problem with it is A) It's online (which isn't a problem with the format really) and B) It makes the matches feeling pointless. You can tell that the regular season matches don't mean much to the players and a lot of them felt like ladder matches.
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On July 11 2011 16:14 lunchforthesky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 16:08 pdd wrote:On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:No, PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL. I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague Probably not in 2011. He's good definitely, but he's been hyped for way too long and has yet to make it to Code A. Yeah the past couple of weeks has sort of been his coming out party with the 3-kill against Prime and couple of non-GSL wins, but he's still got a long way to go. Qualifying for Code A next weekend will be his next task. Puma hasn't really been hyped at all long term. Not like Bomber was. Most of his hype is from the ICCUP Weekly tournament and winning the NASL Open Tournament, people who watched that realise this guy was a bit special, which led into his vs Prime GSTL exploits. A combination of the three meant that those in the know fancied his as a favourite alongside MC for the NASL, which is exactly what happened.
And with his debut in GSTL came the announcement of the fact that he was a practice partner of Flash. That is HUGE!
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Flash must be happy for Puma :D
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I'm really frustrated by mc. I think after game 1 he would realize that puma has really good decision making with the ghosts and an all gateway army cannot retreat once emped. I would like to have see a lot more collosus play early.
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Go PUMA! so happy right now :D What an epic climax to a great weekend of gaming that saw many amazing games.
Also since a lot of people just randomly bash NASL, I'd like to congratulate them for the finals. Sure there were quite a few technical problems, but I just loved this event. The crowd was awesome and created a brilliant atmosphere, and I thought IncontroL and Gretorp casted superbly in the finals, was just brilliant entertainment! Thanks!!
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On July 11 2011 16:14 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 15:59 jimjimchoi wrote:On July 11 2011 14:58 Tyrr wrote:On July 11 2011 14:48 eXNewB wrote:
I just got to check results and was really surprised that the finals were so close! Congratulations to PuMa!!!!!!!!
As for everyone arguing about HuK, come on man the kid took how long to finally get into code S? He just started banging out wins, if he continues on this streak for awhile then we'll start talkin! It took HuK 1 try. nope it didnt huk has been in korea quite a long time a month less then jinro No it really did take him only one try. He got a foreigner invite to code A via gom and then beat 2 zergs and won a PvP in the up downs to get into code S.
huk went to Korea for the gsl last year and he didn't get in. its was when tlo was in Korea too
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On July 11 2011 16:14 lunchforthesky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 16:08 pdd wrote:On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:No, PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL. I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague Probably not in 2011. He's good definitely, but he's been hyped for way too long and has yet to make it to Code A. Yeah the past couple of weeks has sort of been his coming out party with the 3-kill against Prime and couple of non-GSL wins, but he's still got a long way to go. Qualifying for Code A next weekend will be his next task. Puma hasn't really been hyped at all long term. Not like Bomber was. Most of his hype is from the ICCUP Weekly tournament and winning the NASL Open Tournament, people who watched that realise this guy was a bit special, which led into his vs Prime GSTL exploits. A combination of the three meant that those in the know fancied his as a favourite alongside MC for the NASL, which is exactly what happened.
He was a force on the KR ladder for a long time, often placing rather high. Admittedly, not as highly rated as Bomber was, but definitely Code A material.
And PuMa also showed he could definitely beat Code S material players as early as GSTL 2 by beating sC and winning the Ro8 match for TSL.
His recent success isn't a result of him suddenly becoming good, it's just him finally just meeting his potential. You don't suddenly becoming good after playing for a couple of months. He was always good, but just never met expectations.
EDIT: What I'm saying is, for someone who has been around since GSL 2 or 3, and been placing very high on the ladder, he should have made it to GSL at least once. The fact that he's never been able to is probably the biggest reason he's not as hyped as he should be.
On July 11 2011 16:18 Spacekyod wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 16:14 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 11 2011 16:08 pdd wrote:On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:No, PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL. I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague Probably not in 2011. He's good definitely, but he's been hyped for way too long and has yet to make it to Code A. Yeah the past couple of weeks has sort of been his coming out party with the 3-kill against Prime and couple of non-GSL wins, but he's still got a long way to go. Qualifying for Code A next weekend will be his next task. Puma hasn't really been hyped at all long term. Not like Bomber was. Most of his hype is from the ICCUP Weekly tournament and winning the NASL Open Tournament, people who watched that realise this guy was a bit special, which led into his vs Prime GSTL exploits. A combination of the three meant that those in the know fancied his as a favourite alongside MC for the NASL, which is exactly what happened. And with his debut in GSTL came the announcement of the fact that he was a practice partner of Flash. That is HUGE!
His GSTL debut was actually in GSTL 2, winning it for TSL against sCfOu. He also appeared in GSTL 3, winning 1 game and losing 1 game.
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did you guys know one of the top NA players is combatex? if winning is what all that matters then combatex would be considered a top NA player.
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at least we got 2 EPIC series to top NASL Season 1 off
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On July 11 2011 16:29 jimjimchoi wrote:
did you guys know one of the top NA players is combatex? if winning is what all that matters then combatex would be considered a top NA player.
Are you just trolling or are you serious?
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On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:No, PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL. I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague Sure, this run has been insane. But it isn't as great as NaNiwa's, MLG's Open Bracket is -brutal- while NASL's is way more forgiving.
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On July 11 2011 16:35 Klogon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 16:29 jimjimchoi wrote:
did you guys know one of the top NA players is combatex? if winning is what all that matters then combatex would be considered a top NA player. Are you just trolling or are you serious?
i was being sarcastic, trying to say winning isn't everything
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As entertaining as the finals were, I think MC was clearly out of stamina in the last game. Flying over and playing tournament games non stop in a new environment must be hard, combined with the fact that he probably was very sleepy during the last match, and the first 6 games were insanely tiring.
When I was young and was playing in Magic the Gathering events, after playing a few tense matches, I would always be extremely tired at the end any day, because of the way you have to interact with people and make sure you are where you are supposed to be, and the constant noise. I could play 150 games a day without getting tired, but when I played in an event I'd be exhausted after 9.
I kind of assumed the same for July, in MLG Col where he was in a similar physical condition and just threw games away at the end.
For these events, I think, being able to do nothing between matches is an important skill to have.
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On July 11 2011 16:37 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 15:00 Primadog wrote:No, PuMa's win is not a strike against the NASL format but a serious proof that it works. One undefeated player survives the open bracket, only to face at best 1:15 odd of grabbing the win. Whoever make that win has more than proven that he is fucking good, for he had ran a gauntlet even greater than NaNiwa in the MLG Dallas. I am calling it now - Puma will win a 2011 GSL. I am not good with words, but this guy is http://esfiworld.com/sc2/circuit/north-american-starleague Sure, this run has been insane. But it isn't as great as NaNiwa's, MLG's Open Bracket is -brutal- while NASL's is way more forgiving.
Considering MLG's Open Bracket is double elimination and 4 people can come out from it, this is just flat out wrong. The only reason MLG's open bracket is more brutal is that there are/were approximately 60-70 more people in it, but again you're fighting for 4 spots rather than 1 and you've got double eliminations.
The main issue here is the invited NASL players had been spending 9 weeks, some even having to wake up at wee-early morning hours to play and there wasn't much room to reschedule. To have someone who won a 1 week online event come in and take their prize is somewhat unappealing (for lack of a better word).
But he deserved it, and it's the way the format was from the start. Players knew it. You just have to run with it.
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wait, incontrol is not casting next season but gretorp is? wtf...
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On July 11 2011 16:47 Effen wrote:
wait, incontrol is not casting next season but gretorp is? wtf...
why the wtf? incontrol left to focus on playing. Gretorp is still focusing on NASL and casting.
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