• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:00
CEST 20:00
KST 03:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced11Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid21
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2006 users

NASL Grand Finals Day 2 - Page 538

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 536 537 538 539 540 703 Next
Stop being so silly over women in esports. Rude comments will be banned for! (from page 78). Be sure to keep the topic excellent, please!
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10741
where is lindsay i miss her excellency
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
BIGSTEVE808
Profile Joined April 2011
United States225 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10742
On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?

Strong protoss on New Star HoSeo.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10743
I think people bandwagon hop a bit too often. Puma's had a good run, that doesn't make him the best Terran in the world. MMA won MLG then got hammered in GSL. Puma may win NASL but he hasn't made much impact in GSL either.

MVP's lost a lot of his shine, but I still think at his best he's the current Terran President.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10744
On July 10 2011 11:04 Kh0nsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:00 Zanno wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:57 FLuE wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:53 Callosum wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:51 don_kyuhote wrote:
So this so called "16th seed" made it to the final.
I feel sorry for Ret.


Yea, not Puma's fault at all, he's playing awesome, but the league championship should have been closed to league members only. Otherwise there's not much incentive to be in the league.


First off, Ret would have had to beat him, or a very good player at some point. With how Ret played there were probably only 4-5 players he was going to beat out of the 16 so if it wasn't out in the first round it would have been the 2nd.

Also, in the league you are competing for 15 possible spots. Not in the league you are trying to fight through a massive talented open bracket that is single elimination for 1 spot. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that you'd want to be in the league, not to mention the notoriety of having weekly matches broadcast which makes sponsors happy and helps grow your name and brand.

Bah, shouldn't have even responded to comments. Either you aren't thinking through anything, or I'm getting trolled. Either way wasn't worth the time.
it sets a bad precedent though

if puma wins then other pros will be like oh well i'm not going to waste my time playing in the league i'll just play in the open and if i can beat everyone in that, then i'll be unstoppable in the tournament

you have to understand there's a finite number of hours in the day, and NASL is a huge time-sink for no potential reward, time that could better be spent streaming or playing in smaller cups


It was far, far easier to get into the NASL just by being popular and having a quirky application video then to compete against 1024 other players in Single elimination, a few rounds of which I'm sure was Bo1.

And i'm sure any pro would prefer margin for error (i.e a league format where 1-2 losses and you can easily still qualify) over such a brutal and unforgiving open tournament, even if it takes a few more hours of your life.

Oh, and you get a week to prepare in the league whilst most of the open tournament was too fast paced for preparation.

You forgot to mention that the Korean players had to get up at 4 a.m. every morning to play in the NASL, yet puma plays one open tourney and gets a trip to the finals.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10745
I can't wait for tomorrow's musical act and entertainment... I hope it's Sammy Deluxe.

LONG LIVE SAMMY D!
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10746
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10747
On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?

Captain of HoSeo, a really intelligent protoss that all killed fOu in the GSTL about a week ago. He effectively imported the Bisu Build into SC2 and kept sC contained with FFs until his main was mined out.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10748
On July 10 2011 11:06 starcraft2rush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:52 gogatorsfoster wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:49 unit wrote:
lololol, she knows TL unhappy TL should be more accepting man


I think she realized she didnt have a complete understanding of what she was saying and decided it would be better to stop talking before she would get ripped on. I think we are pretty accepting on TL we can be harsh sometime but all in all I think we are pretty nice


lol you are delusional. case in point. People may hold their tongues on this heavily moderated forum . But just look at the stream chats (which contain the same ppl w/out the same moderation)

I for one use these threads and not stream chat, if you read stream chat you have a chance of contracting brain cancer.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10749
What is the schedule tomorrow?
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10750
On July 10 2011 11:07 Mawi wrote:
where is lindsay i miss her excellency

I dont think she is royalty, but what do I know
Do you really want chat rooms?
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10751
On July 10 2011 11:07 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?


A gamechanging protoss player, all killed some team in GSTL


Also, my hero. <3
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10752
We need some more excellent interviews.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10753

On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?


As of now, looks to be the second best Protoss in Korea. Even MC was impressed by his play during the GSTL
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10754
On July 10 2011 11:05 Kuni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:02 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kuni wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:59 tsuxiit wrote:
I like how the person who might win the finals didn't even play in the league....



pretty much this .... :-/
he's pretty awesome tho, but that's got nothing to do with it. poor ret. 10 hours flight for 15 minutes of sc2 games.


Well, if Ret had won, then that wouldn't have happened... it all depends on if you win or not to make traveling to and participating in a tournament worthwhile, no? Imagine if PuMa had lost instead of Ret. Then PuMa would also have had 10+ hours of flight for 15 minutes.



true, ret played a whole season of nasl tho and finished first in the overall statistics, if i am not mistaken. but my post wasn't mainly about ret. more like the format of nasl, which is (at least now in season 1) very flawed. just like the single elimination bo3 grand finals and the like.


No just think about it, if Ret is so good that he finished first in overall statistics during the league, what does that make Puma who eliminated him and is now in the grand final match?
The spice must flow
KuKKi
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany73 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10755
On July 10 2011 11:05 mikedebo wrote:
I saw MC rush the booth too... he's probably in there right now brainstorming how he's going to spend 50K.



Diamond Rrrrrrings for his Girlfriend!
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10756
On July 10 2011 11:07 iamthedave wrote:
I think people bandwagon hop a bit too often. Puma's had a good run, that doesn't make him the best Terran in the world. MMA won MLG then got hammered in GSL. Puma may win NASL but he hasn't made much impact in GSL either.

MVP's lost a lot of his shine, but I still think at his best he's the current Terran President.


Got hammered? He made it to the ST Finals... that's pretty impressive. And then he proceeded to lose to a very strong Toss player in his worst matchup. Not really indicative of anything at all.
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10757
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.

I think he will =) Are you in? then its you and me vs the world
"!@€#" - as some guy said
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10758
is it my imagination? I just woke up and logged into the NASL Day 2 stream. Production quality looks much better than yesterday's. The colors are much more balanced, and the camera isn't on "Blair Witch" mode as it was the day before.

Audio seems balanced on left/right channels as well. At least while they're filming in the intermission.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10759
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.

I do and sort of hope he does althought darkforce winning it would be epic on a whole different level.
Do you really want chat rooms?
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10760
On July 10 2011 11:00 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:57 FLuE wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:53 Callosum wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:51 don_kyuhote wrote:
So this so called "16th seed" made it to the final.
I feel sorry for Ret.


Yea, not Puma's fault at all, he's playing awesome, but the league championship should have been closed to league members only. Otherwise there's not much incentive to be in the league.


First off, Ret would have had to beat him, or a very good player at some point. With how Ret played there were probably only 4-5 players he was going to beat out of the 16 so if it wasn't out in the first round it would have been the 2nd.

Also, in the league you are competing for 15 possible spots. Not in the league you are trying to fight through a massive talented open bracket that is single elimination for 1 spot. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that you'd want to be in the league, not to mention the notoriety of having weekly matches broadcast which makes sponsors happy and helps grow your name and brand.

Bah, shouldn't have even responded to comments. Either you aren't thinking through anything, or I'm getting trolled. Either way wasn't worth the time.
it sets a bad precedent though

if puma wins then other pros will be like oh well i'm not going to waste my time playing in the league i'll just play in the open and if i can beat everyone in that, then i'll be unstoppable in the tournament

you have to understand there's a finite number of hours in the day, and NASL is a huge time-sink for no potential reward, time that could better be spent streaming or playing in smaller cups


Actually that is a horrible way to think of it and NO pro would think that way. The NASL isn't a time sink, it is 1 day a week and a BO3. You are WAY better off playing in the NASL, for a chance at 50k, plus publicity which will grow your streams, brands, lessons for players, etc. than winning a bunch of 100-500 dollar cups. Just being on the NASL and seen, getting interviewed, hyped each week, etc. that is all a big deal. I think if you asked all the NASL players if they benefited from being in the league, even the ones that didn't win much, they'd all say def. I bet if you asked them, "Hey you can play in the league again, OR try to win a single elimination open bracket full of Koreans and other top gamers, which would you like to do?"

Seriously, read through what you actually wrote, It doesn't set a bad precedent at all. If anything it might have players who think they are better than Puma try to get into the league, so they would have an easier shot at securing 1 of those 15 spots and win the whole thing.

And just because you win the open doesn't mean you'll be unstoppable at an event that has some of the best talent in the world. He just happens to be playing really well.
Prev 1 536 537 538 539 540 703 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
16:00
Ro24 Group C
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
Liquipedia
SC Evo League
13:30
SEL Doubles #2
SteadfastSC522
BRAT_OK 43
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 522
mouzHeroMarine 490
Hui .197
BRAT_OK 43
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 20529
Calm 4148
Mini 560
firebathero 240
actioN 185
ggaemo 141
Dewaltoss 138
EffOrt 122
Mind 94
Pusan 54
[ Show more ]
Rock 39
910 37
Sexy 33
Dota 2
Gorgc7167
qojqva1940
League of Legends
Reynor65
Counter-Strike
fl0m4643
olofmeister2091
byalli868
shahzam300
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King92
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor390
MindelVK7
Other Games
Grubby2906
FrodaN1604
Beastyqt736
Mlord592
B2W.Neo544
Liquid`Hasu193
KnowMe110
QueenE53
Railgan51
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream7810
Other Games
gamesdonequick653
BasetradeTV380
StarCraft 2
angryscii 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 25 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 77
• printf 48
• Adnapsc2 14
• Response 2
• OhrlRock 1
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach73
• RayReign 18
• 80smullet 12
• FirePhoenix10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1075
• WagamamaTV21
League of Legends
• Jankos2213
• TFBlade1413
Other Games
• imaqtpie776
• Shiphtur158
Upcoming Events
BSL
1h
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
4h
CranKy Ducklings
6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
16h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
17h
Ladder Legends
21h
BSL
1d 1h
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
1d 1h
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Wardi Open
1d 16h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
1d 16h
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 22h
RSL Revival
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.