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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10741
where is lindsay i miss her excellency
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
BIGSTEVE808
Profile Joined April 2011
United States225 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10742
On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?

Strong protoss on New Star HoSeo.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10743
I think people bandwagon hop a bit too often. Puma's had a good run, that doesn't make him the best Terran in the world. MMA won MLG then got hammered in GSL. Puma may win NASL but he hasn't made much impact in GSL either.

MVP's lost a lot of his shine, but I still think at his best he's the current Terran President.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10744
On July 10 2011 11:04 Kh0nsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:00 Zanno wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:57 FLuE wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:53 Callosum wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:51 don_kyuhote wrote:
So this so called "16th seed" made it to the final.
I feel sorry for Ret.


Yea, not Puma's fault at all, he's playing awesome, but the league championship should have been closed to league members only. Otherwise there's not much incentive to be in the league.


First off, Ret would have had to beat him, or a very good player at some point. With how Ret played there were probably only 4-5 players he was going to beat out of the 16 so if it wasn't out in the first round it would have been the 2nd.

Also, in the league you are competing for 15 possible spots. Not in the league you are trying to fight through a massive talented open bracket that is single elimination for 1 spot. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that you'd want to be in the league, not to mention the notoriety of having weekly matches broadcast which makes sponsors happy and helps grow your name and brand.

Bah, shouldn't have even responded to comments. Either you aren't thinking through anything, or I'm getting trolled. Either way wasn't worth the time.
it sets a bad precedent though

if puma wins then other pros will be like oh well i'm not going to waste my time playing in the league i'll just play in the open and if i can beat everyone in that, then i'll be unstoppable in the tournament

you have to understand there's a finite number of hours in the day, and NASL is a huge time-sink for no potential reward, time that could better be spent streaming or playing in smaller cups


It was far, far easier to get into the NASL just by being popular and having a quirky application video then to compete against 1024 other players in Single elimination, a few rounds of which I'm sure was Bo1.

And i'm sure any pro would prefer margin for error (i.e a league format where 1-2 losses and you can easily still qualify) over such a brutal and unforgiving open tournament, even if it takes a few more hours of your life.

Oh, and you get a week to prepare in the league whilst most of the open tournament was too fast paced for preparation.

You forgot to mention that the Korean players had to get up at 4 a.m. every morning to play in the NASL, yet puma plays one open tourney and gets a trip to the finals.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10745
I can't wait for tomorrow's musical act and entertainment... I hope it's Sammy Deluxe.

LONG LIVE SAMMY D!
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10746
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10747
On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?

Captain of HoSeo, a really intelligent protoss that all killed fOu in the GSTL about a week ago. He effectively imported the Bisu Build into SC2 and kept sC contained with FFs until his main was mined out.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10748
On July 10 2011 11:06 starcraft2rush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:52 gogatorsfoster wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:49 unit wrote:
lololol, she knows TL unhappy TL should be more accepting man


I think she realized she didnt have a complete understanding of what she was saying and decided it would be better to stop talking before she would get ripped on. I think we are pretty accepting on TL we can be harsh sometime but all in all I think we are pretty nice


lol you are delusional. case in point. People may hold their tongues on this heavily moderated forum . But just look at the stream chats (which contain the same ppl w/out the same moderation)

I for one use these threads and not stream chat, if you read stream chat you have a chance of contracting brain cancer.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10749
What is the schedule tomorrow?
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10750
On July 10 2011 11:07 Mawi wrote:
where is lindsay i miss her excellency

I dont think she is royalty, but what do I know
Do you really want chat rooms?
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10751
On July 10 2011 11:07 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?


A gamechanging protoss player, all killed some team in GSTL


Also, my hero. <3
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10752
We need some more excellent interviews.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 10 2011 02:07 GMT
#10753

On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?


As of now, looks to be the second best Protoss in Korea. Even MC was impressed by his play during the GSTL
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10754
On July 10 2011 11:05 Kuni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:02 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kuni wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:59 tsuxiit wrote:
I like how the person who might win the finals didn't even play in the league....



pretty much this .... :-/
he's pretty awesome tho, but that's got nothing to do with it. poor ret. 10 hours flight for 15 minutes of sc2 games.


Well, if Ret had won, then that wouldn't have happened... it all depends on if you win or not to make traveling to and participating in a tournament worthwhile, no? Imagine if PuMa had lost instead of Ret. Then PuMa would also have had 10+ hours of flight for 15 minutes.



true, ret played a whole season of nasl tho and finished first in the overall statistics, if i am not mistaken. but my post wasn't mainly about ret. more like the format of nasl, which is (at least now in season 1) very flawed. just like the single elimination bo3 grand finals and the like.


No just think about it, if Ret is so good that he finished first in overall statistics during the league, what does that make Puma who eliminated him and is now in the grand final match?
The spice must flow
KuKKi
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany73 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10755
On July 10 2011 11:05 mikedebo wrote:
I saw MC rush the booth too... he's probably in there right now brainstorming how he's going to spend 50K.



Diamond Rrrrrrings for his Girlfriend!
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10756
On July 10 2011 11:07 iamthedave wrote:
I think people bandwagon hop a bit too often. Puma's had a good run, that doesn't make him the best Terran in the world. MMA won MLG then got hammered in GSL. Puma may win NASL but he hasn't made much impact in GSL either.

MVP's lost a lot of his shine, but I still think at his best he's the current Terran President.


Got hammered? He made it to the ST Finals... that's pretty impressive. And then he proceeded to lose to a very strong Toss player in his worst matchup. Not really indicative of anything at all.
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10757
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.

I think he will =) Are you in? then its you and me vs the world
"!@€#" - as some guy said
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10758
is it my imagination? I just woke up and logged into the NASL Day 2 stream. Production quality looks much better than yesterday's. The colors are much more balanced, and the camera isn't on "Blair Witch" mode as it was the day before.

Audio seems balanced on left/right channels as well. At least while they're filming in the intermission.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10759
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.

I do and sort of hope he does althought darkforce winning it would be epic on a whole different level.
Do you really want chat rooms?
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
July 10 2011 02:08 GMT
#10760
On July 10 2011 11:00 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:57 FLuE wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:53 Callosum wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:51 don_kyuhote wrote:
So this so called "16th seed" made it to the final.
I feel sorry for Ret.


Yea, not Puma's fault at all, he's playing awesome, but the league championship should have been closed to league members only. Otherwise there's not much incentive to be in the league.


First off, Ret would have had to beat him, or a very good player at some point. With how Ret played there were probably only 4-5 players he was going to beat out of the 16 so if it wasn't out in the first round it would have been the 2nd.

Also, in the league you are competing for 15 possible spots. Not in the league you are trying to fight through a massive talented open bracket that is single elimination for 1 spot. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that you'd want to be in the league, not to mention the notoriety of having weekly matches broadcast which makes sponsors happy and helps grow your name and brand.

Bah, shouldn't have even responded to comments. Either you aren't thinking through anything, or I'm getting trolled. Either way wasn't worth the time.
it sets a bad precedent though

if puma wins then other pros will be like oh well i'm not going to waste my time playing in the league i'll just play in the open and if i can beat everyone in that, then i'll be unstoppable in the tournament

you have to understand there's a finite number of hours in the day, and NASL is a huge time-sink for no potential reward, time that could better be spent streaming or playing in smaller cups


Actually that is a horrible way to think of it and NO pro would think that way. The NASL isn't a time sink, it is 1 day a week and a BO3. You are WAY better off playing in the NASL, for a chance at 50k, plus publicity which will grow your streams, brands, lessons for players, etc. than winning a bunch of 100-500 dollar cups. Just being on the NASL and seen, getting interviewed, hyped each week, etc. that is all a big deal. I think if you asked all the NASL players if they benefited from being in the league, even the ones that didn't win much, they'd all say def. I bet if you asked them, "Hey you can play in the league again, OR try to win a single elimination open bracket full of Koreans and other top gamers, which would you like to do?"

Seriously, read through what you actually wrote, It doesn't set a bad precedent at all. If anything it might have players who think they are better than Puma try to get into the league, so they would have an easier shot at securing 1 of those 15 spots and win the whole thing.

And just because you win the open doesn't mean you'll be unstoppable at an event that has some of the best talent in the world. He just happens to be playing really well.
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