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AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 09 2011 08:35 GMT
#21321
On July 09 2011 17:24 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:16 superjoppe wrote:
On July 09 2011 16:56 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
and it was impossible to watch it all for us in Europe?

Stop trying to make your experience everyone elses experience. Was perfect here.


How when it went on into like 4 in the morning?


Wanna guess what time DH and HSC was on for Americans?
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 09 2011 08:35 GMT
#21322
On July 09 2011 17:32 MrSexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:21 valaki wrote:
This whole bo3 and if you lose you go home format is just dumb. For example Ret fought like a champ for months, had the best score through the entire NASL and whooooooops after 15 mins, he was out and that was it.


I just look at it as any other sport. In baseball, basketball, football, or whatever else, there's a regular season and a post season. Once you get to the post season everyone starts from scratch and you play until there's no one else to beat. The NASL regular season format is for people who like scoreboard watching. And the post season is straight up bracket style.

How would you change the format? Double elimination?


It's more to do with the Koreans (e.g. BoxeR) coming all this way just for them to be out of the tournament in 20 minutes. It should be Bo5 tbh, not just for the fact that it would make it fairer, butalso that there would actually be more Starcraft content to watch instead of 30 minute intros and delays.

A losers bracket would suffice, I think this format is far too harsh
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 09 2011 08:36 GMT
#21323
On July 09 2011 17:35 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:24 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On July 09 2011 17:16 superjoppe wrote:
On July 09 2011 16:56 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
and it was impossible to watch it all for us in Europe?

Stop trying to make your experience everyone elses experience. Was perfect here.


How when it went on into like 4 in the morning?


Wanna guess what time DH and HSC was on for Americans?


Wanna guess how much the vods were?

Free
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Letall
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden384 Posts
July 09 2011 08:36 GMT
#21324
They way in which both Morrow and Hasuobs lost their games makes me ponder whether or not they threw the games in order to get out of this production nightmare.
Dont tase me bro
RainCoat
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden142 Posts
July 09 2011 08:38 GMT
#21325
On July 09 2011 17:35 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:24 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On July 09 2011 17:16 superjoppe wrote:
On July 09 2011 16:56 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
and it was impossible to watch it all for us in Europe?

Stop trying to make your experience everyone elses experience. Was perfect here.


How when it went on into like 4 in the morning?


Wanna guess what time DH and HSC was on for Americans?

Exuse me if I'm wrong, but the later games of HSC & DH was on the morning/afternoon right? Not in the middle of the night ^_^
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
July 09 2011 08:39 GMT
#21326
On July 09 2011 17:36 Letall wrote:
They way in which both Morrow and Hasuobs lost their games makes me ponder whether or not they threw the games in order to get out of this production nightmare.

I'm sure they came all the way to California, only to throw just so they can be comfortable....not.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
July 09 2011 08:40 GMT
#21327
On July 09 2011 17:36 Letall wrote:
They way in which both Morrow and Hasuobs lost their games makes me ponder whether or not they threw the games in order to get out of this production nightmare.


Yup, clearly, they hate money.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
GrimReefer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States442 Posts
July 09 2011 08:41 GMT
#21328
i look forward to day 2
You're rapping about homosexuals and Vicodin, I can't sell this sh*t.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 09 2011 08:42 GMT
#21329
On July 09 2011 17:36 Letall wrote:
They way in which both Morrow and Hasuobs lost their games makes me ponder whether or not they threw the games in order to get out of this production nightmare.

No but Koreans have a way of making you look like you're throwing games. Everything comes faster and more aggressive. Nani speaks to this when he comments on sorry state of foreign scene.
MC for president
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
July 09 2011 08:43 GMT
#21330
Things I have learned from this thread:

- sound is important
- rooting for the underdogs is racism apparently
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
July 09 2011 08:44 GMT
#21331
How did aLive lost to Darkforce? o__o
WriterMaru
Letall
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden384 Posts
July 09 2011 08:44 GMT
#21332
On July 09 2011 17:40 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:36 Letall wrote:
They way in which both Morrow and Hasuobs lost their games makes me ponder whether or not they threw the games in order to get out of this production nightmare.


Yup, clearly, they hate money.


Was thinking more in the way of their team/sponsers not wanting to be affiliated with the fiasco and therefore pulling their players out.
Dont tase me bro
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
July 09 2011 08:45 GMT
#21333
On July 09 2011 17:36 Letall wrote:
They way in which both Morrow and Hasuobs lost their games makes me ponder whether or not they threw the games in order to get out of this production nightmare.


You just have to take credits away from Koreans. Morrow off-race was an insult to his opponent to begin with and he made a fool out of himself. Sure, they flew all the way here to make themselves looking dumb.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
July 09 2011 08:46 GMT
#21334
On July 09 2011 17:17 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 16:47 shadymmj wrote:
This entire tournament is nonsensical, but by far the most aggravating thing is the format. It is flat out horrible for boxer to have to play MC...yes, other players arguably got the shaft too, but this matchup is the standout, considering how July's ZvZ is not that great. They have so many days, yet they still can't go beyond single elimination...it's absurd. Check the new starleague format (groups of 4), that one is much better if you want to save time.

Pretty lame critique since bracket was based on seeding form day 1.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/e/e0/NASLGraph.jpg


irrelevant, this is a tournament, not a league. if you want a league, then keep it a league, and let it stay as an online league, no biggie.

this tournament may be the culmination of a league, but in reality people who go all the way there can't be given two fucks if the league had been going on for years. they're there to watch people play good starcraft. MLG delivered. NASL does not. The end.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
July 09 2011 08:48 GMT
#21335
On July 09 2011 17:21 JustPassingBy wrote:
Sen, Select and Darkforce stemming against the overwhelming Korean wave!
(okay, Select is a Korean as well, but he trains outside of Korea and hence represents the non-Korean professional scene, that's what matters to me)


Select talks with a Korean accent, knows Korean, and obviously still is a citizen of Korea. Americans definitely do not identify themselves with Select based on appearance, they prefer Sheth.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
July 09 2011 08:51 GMT
#21336
On July 09 2011 17:48 twndomn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:21 JustPassingBy wrote:
Sen, Select and Darkforce stemming against the overwhelming Korean wave!
(okay, Select is a Korean as well, but he trains outside of Korea and hence represents the non-Korean professional scene, that's what matters to me)


Select talks with a Korean accent, knows Korean, and obviously still is a citizen of Korea. Americans definitely do not identify themselves with Select based on appearance, they prefer Sheth.


doesn't matter that americans identify themselves or not with select... he represents a non-korean scene... which is a fact
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 08:52:25
July 09 2011 08:51 GMT
#21337
On July 09 2011 17:44 Poopi wrote:
How did aLive lost to Darkforce? o__o


I think you underestimate Darkforce.
On a good day he couldt beat everyone.
Darkforce fighting!
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 08:55:34
July 09 2011 08:52 GMT
#21338
On July 09 2011 17:48 twndomn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:21 JustPassingBy wrote:
Sen, Select and Darkforce stemming against the overwhelming Korean wave!
(okay, Select is a Korean as well, but he trains outside of Korea and hence represents the non-Korean professional scene, that's what matters to me)


Select talks with a Korean accent, knows Korean, and obviously still is a citizen of Korea. Americans definitely do not identify themselves with Select based on appearance, they prefer Sheth.

While there is an ongoing argument about how Select should be considered in terms of Korean or foreigner; i would say there is a very strong argument for him to be considered very very very different to the Koreans in terms of SC2.

Anyway - WOW that is a lot of Koreans and a lot of 2:0 victories! I really was hoping Sheth's ZvP would get him through - but oh well

Some really good players around!
On July 09 2011 17:36 Letall wrote:
They way in which both Morrow and Hasuobs lost their games makes me ponder whether or not they threw the games in order to get out of this production nightmare.

The fact that you actually engaged your brain and "pondered" and still came up with this terrible conclusion is pretty funny. They travelled a really long way and there is a ton of money on the line.
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
July 09 2011 08:52 GMT
#21339
On July 09 2011 17:48 twndomn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:21 JustPassingBy wrote:
Sen, Select and Darkforce stemming against the overwhelming Korean wave!
(okay, Select is a Korean as well, but he trains outside of Korea and hence represents the non-Korean professional scene, that's what matters to me)


Select talks with a Korean accent, knows Korean, and obviously still is a citizen of Korea. Americans definitely do not identify themselves with Select based on appearance, they prefer Sheth.

And Sheth failed ... horrible : (
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 09 2011 08:55 GMT
#21340
On July 09 2011 17:35 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:24 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On July 09 2011 17:16 superjoppe wrote:
On July 09 2011 16:56 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
and it was impossible to watch it all for us in Europe?

Stop trying to make your experience everyone elses experience. Was perfect here.


How when it went on into like 4 in the morning?


Wanna guess what time DH and HSC was on for Americans?


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