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r00ter
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria39 Posts
June 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#5361
On June 27 2011 01:54 Rayansaki wrote:
MC Whitera casting finals please! by themselves!

that will be too imba
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
June 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#5362
On June 27 2011 01:53 ABPID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:51 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:48 YoungNeil wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:45 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:44 Minaegi wrote:
Never seen MC micro so poorly


It was nothing to do with micro. It was a build order loss, no player demonstrated any actual skill. Blink stalkers >>>>> defensive 4 gate no matter which professional player is playing.

That's not a build order loss, because "defensive 4 gate" isn't a build. "4 gate" is a build, and MC decided to be defensive with it. Had he managed to keep his probe alive and attack, he would have been the one with an advantage.


Do you even actually own this game? On Crevasse most people 4 gate, if he goes offensive 4 gate and you defend you win, if he goes offensive 4 gate and you blink then he wins, if goes he defensive 4 gate and you blink you win.

There is no skill here at all, you blindly guess what he's going to do and win or lose by it. The only time PvP involves any actual micro/skill in when you beat a build order loss (Mc vs Nani game 3, Huk vs Nani twice) or when you both get two mining bases.

These games were nothing but coinflips.

Micro, coinflips, what's the difference?
Note: may contain traces of sarcasm


lunchforthesky is just trolling :p
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Ojahh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Ireland728 Posts
June 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#5363
Yeah Pete Fox music, now we need SEEED

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tesat
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany32 Posts
June 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#5364
On June 27 2011 01:53 Syben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:52 tesat wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:51 Lupita wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:49 LeFroMaGe wrote:
TL won't like that comment... Naniwa was humble earlier lol


Naniwa actually said that if he went to Korea that he would be better than Huk. Not sure what's so humble about that.


he actually never said that.


Actually he did


Nope, he did not. he just said that it's possible but future will tell.
hammarfOu
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden363 Posts
June 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#5365
go NANIWA!
Jävla Terran!
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
June 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#5366
On June 27 2011 01:51 wristuzi wrote:
That was a really intense series. I wish I understood PvP a bit more so I could appreciate what they did a bit more. Playing 15 minutes of 4 gate must be so insanely tiring as well.


It is haha. PvP is very subtle and precise in my experience, which is why i really like it. Sometimes it is VERY frustrating though ^^
God is dead.
101998
Profile Joined December 2010
United States318 Posts
June 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#5367
naniwa plays lefthanded, so gosu
shaman6ix
Profile Joined January 2011
Greece212 Posts
June 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#5368
its so funny how offended people get from one simple statement which you dont even now if it was serious talking or just joking/trolling. take example from the atmosphere youre watching in the stream and dont take everything too seriously.

I dont care who wins but Huk is definitely a better player overall.
when evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5369
On June 27 2011 01:55 trucane wrote:
Can someone explain to me why players always seem to be sick when they lose a few games? Lose = "I couldn't play good because I was sick"

Not saying that they are always faking it but it seems a bit odd to me


It's the excuse the fans are pulling, I havn't seen a single player say that they lose because they're sick. Have you? If not, then why make a silly post like that.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
OneWhoIsMany
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada292 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5370
On June 27 2011 01:54 Pipeline wrote:
Huk, I hope you read the LR thread after your interview.... I just want to tell you that you are a douche for saying that "this was the real final" when both YOU and MC lost to Naniwa. Talk about disrespectful


And what does this make you...?
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5371
Clearly the key is to write your name at the top of the board.
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"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5372
On June 27 2011 01:47 epik640x wrote:
white-ra and take talking about how no one is invincible in sc2 is sad. They are talking about the low skill ceiling and then saying it's a good thing lol. Pathetic.


Stop derailing the thread to a "SC2 sucks" on a SC2 tournament LR.
Go back to the dark pit you came from.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
landmarktiger
Profile Joined April 2011
226 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5373
This event has just been awesome - i hope it got enough exposure and views to make it profitable for the sponsors and take so we can have a HSC4!!
cq
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5374
what song is this? (the german rap)
adeptz
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia220 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5375
On June 27 2011 01:54 Pipeline wrote:
Huk, I hope you read the LR thread after your interview.... I just want to tell you that you are a douche for saying that "this was the real final" when both YOU and MC lost to Naniwa. Talk about disrespectful


Have a tissue.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5376
I don't understand what the big deal is. Naniwa already admitted Huk's PvP is probably better than his, just because of the fact that Huk has practiced the Korean PvP style which is further along than the European style. That doesn't mean Naniwa is bad or anything.
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5377
On June 27 2011 01:54 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:51 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:48 YoungNeil wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:45 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:44 Minaegi wrote:
Never seen MC micro so poorly


It was nothing to do with micro. It was a build order loss, no player demonstrated any actual skill. Blink stalkers >>>>> defensive 4 gate no matter which professional player is playing.

That's not a build order loss, because "defensive 4 gate" isn't a build. "4 gate" is a build, and MC decided to be defensive with it. Had he managed to keep his probe alive and attack, he would have been the one with an advantage.


Do you even actually own this game? On Crevasse most people 4 gate, if he goes offensive 4 gate and you defend you win, if he goes offensive 4 gate and you blink then he wins, if goes he defensive 4 gate and you blink you win.

There is no skill here at all, you blindly guess what he's going to do and win or lose by it. The only time PvP involves any actual micro/skill in when you beat a build order loss (Mc vs Nani game 3, Huk vs Nani twice) or when you both get two mining bases.

These games were nothing but coinflips.


If by coinflips you mean extended sessions decided by skill then yes coinflips.


Making probes in the beggining of the game is a coinflip too because if you don't win the game you lose.
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5378
As I said, if Naniwa can conquer his nerves, he'd be the best Toss in the world. Let's go Naniwa, show HuK who's boss.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5379
On June 27 2011 01:53 ABPID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:51 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:48 YoungNeil wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:45 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:44 Minaegi wrote:
Never seen MC micro so poorly


It was nothing to do with micro. It was a build order loss, no player demonstrated any actual skill. Blink stalkers >>>>> defensive 4 gate no matter which professional player is playing.

That's not a build order loss, because "defensive 4 gate" isn't a build. "4 gate" is a build, and MC decided to be defensive with it. Had he managed to keep his probe alive and attack, he would have been the one with an advantage.


Do you even actually own this game? On Crevasse most people 4 gate, if he goes offensive 4 gate and you defend you win, if he goes offensive 4 gate and you blink then he wins, if goes he defensive 4 gate and you blink you win.

There is no skill here at all, you blindly guess what he's going to do and win or lose by it. The only time PvP involves any actual micro/skill in when you beat a build order loss (Mc vs Nani game 3, Huk vs Nani twice) or when you both get two mining bases.

These games were nothing but coinflips.

Micro, coinflips, what's the difference?
Note: may contain traces of sarcasm


None of them games came down to micro. Even on Taldarim Huk won because when he was outside MC's base was when he needed to long distance mine, the game was back and forth and just fell that way, there is no chance he planned to do that it was just a weird/stupid game.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
June 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#5380
On June 27 2011 01:50 Shika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:48 Slardar wrote:
LOL it's the real final when both of them lost to Naniwa. How can you even say that, that is just nonsensical.


Yeah.. I hope he was just trolling but that was a pretty aweful thing to actually say, especially when Naniwa was so modest and mannered in his interview. I really really hope Nani wins after that.


I agree here as much as I love my fellow countryman he's becoming too arrogant or trying to put on a show too much like MC. You should mirror your opponent, Naniwa today giving a real professional interview even saying he thinks HuK is better. You know guys, there is such a negative aura surrounding Naniwa because of his past, now it looks like he's really matured into an awesome nerdballer and you have to commend that. Then you have HuK who's slowly falling to the "dark side"... time for Nazgul to bring out the hammer and bop him back to reality imo.
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