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On June 20 2011 05:31 oogieogie wrote:
holy fucking shit..170 food Z vs 100 food P and the Z loses like how the hell..
looool... It's not at all that simple dude, and you know it.
"holy fucking shit.. 100,000 troops US military vs 15,000 insurgents and the US loses like how the hell.."
There's far more to it than just numbers, food count vs. food count. You're obviously insinuating that P is OP or some played out bullshit, but if you learn to assimilate more than just the most obvious of facts you'll actually realize the balance issue is very very particular and not at all in-your-face no-brainer obvious/something that needs to be immediately and directly addressed.
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MC just has too much preparation IMO. He practices how to transition out of failed DT expands/DT rushes by having teammates get blind spores.
Idra neeeeded hydras, or at least shouldve gone roach/ling. If he went 1 melee 1 range attack ala losira oftentimes, he couldve gone roach/lings/hydras against the stalkers. But I don't think Idra expected such a strong response from MC.
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Sigh, another game won by MC...
Don't get me wrong, MC is a great player, he is just kinda boring to watch, TBH. Blink stalkers aren't that exciting...
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On June 20 2011 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:32 shaman6ix wrote:go ahaid brainwashed idra minions, whine about balance despite idra playing painfully bad  70 food lead = bad play? oh, wow, idra haters are just as bad as idra lovers.
Massing pure Roach = bad play. I'm sorry that IdrA can't win with one unit.
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On June 20 2011 05:32 drox22 wrote:
Idra still going roach hydra. There are so many other good zerg strategies vs protoss.
Ling baneling drops.... infestors.... mutas
but idra still trying to win with the same old unit composition that is by far one of the weakest options zerg has
exactly.. He won pretty convincingly against MC with drop play at Colombus. Then he gets close air on Metalopolis and doesn't even seem to consider dropping or harassing. Seems to me like he's just playing zerg wrong.
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Hoping to see the banhammer in action soon :D
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On June 20 2011 05:34 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:34 Scrandom wrote:
4/4 Koreans, +huk who is pretty much counted as korean. How do you figure HuK is pretty much counted as a Korean?
HuK is the only foreigner who can compete with koreans atm.
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On June 20 2011 05:34 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:34 Scrandom wrote:
4/4 Koreans, +huk who is pretty much counted as korean. How do you figure HuK is pretty much counted as a Korean?
He lives and trains in Korea with Korean players in a korean team house. See how that works?
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On June 20 2011 05:33 MilesTeg wrote:
I don't understand why people say MC outclassed idra... honestly idra was the better player.
I don't get this line of reasoning what so fucking ever, ok maybe IdrA played better for the most of the game but making pure roach against pure stalker with blink (his hydra den completed as the fight happened, also no limgs) is just terrible, and if you make a critical critical mistake like this then you do not deserve to win.
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On June 20 2011 05:35 IPA wrote:
So...is that it for today? Any more games?
Tommorow at 11 cest are the next ones
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I want Idra win so bad  we were able to wipe out only Moon
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On June 20 2011 05:35 Theoren wrote:
Idra made way to many drones and didn't have much of an army advantage. When you consider MC has blink and +2 weapons it's no surprise he steamrolled Idra's pure Roach army. Idra's ZvP is pretty bad and he seems to have a mental block not only against MC but in the match up in general.
but honestly I still hate the fact that a 170 supply army cannot kill a 110 protoss army.....kinda bullshit despite still being pure roach.
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Naniwa's defense after being suprised by BratOKs MM+ghost rush was SICK. He was so dead. MC, Alicia, White-Ra, none of them would've survived in that situation (of course, they might have survived by anticipating a ghost rush and spreading their sentries BUT they wouldn't have survived in the situation Naniwa was put in).
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idra could have won that game so easily by going and keep denying toss expo as soon as he could get overseer. When toss gets expo, it always has enough eco to do one critical timing push while zerg can affort mass units from 2 base off at 10 min mark on, especially when zerg defended dt rush so smoothly.
about food count: i assume that idra had at least 20 worker lead, so it makes about 90 vs 60 army supply. But as many of you know, without zerglings as meatshield, you are in bad position with only roach. Remember stalker does extra dmg vs armored units and mc had attack 2 AND blink.
i can remember that xiao took out nestea in same fashion on same map in gigabyte tourmanent
(which mc won vs xiao in finals  )
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On June 20 2011 05:33 wei2coolman wrote:
How do you look at that and not say "wtf bbq protoss?" blink stalkers > colossus w/gateway, obviously.
The same way you look at a guy going mass lings vs zealots and don't say "wtf bbq protoss?"
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On June 20 2011 05:35 XiGua wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:35 Vimsey wrote:On June 20 2011 05:32 Kira__ wrote:
if you are maxed with roaches, you have to attack asap nobody is forcing him to max with roaches against higher tech units. I'm sorry, but Stalkers are not higher tier. Anyways, MC's micro is flawless.
They basically become higher tier as soon as they have blink
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On June 20 2011 05:32 shaman6ix wrote:go ahaid brainwashed idra minions, whine about balance despite idra playing painfully bad
Oh common, i am not a fan and have pointed out several times his poor showings on LR threads but he didn't play bad, MC is just way too good!
I think that any player that wants to be at the top needs to be in Korea, i mean look at how much Huk has improved.
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On June 20 2011 05:32 IPA wrote:
MC is simply too good.
IdrA shouldn't have engaged until tunneling claws were finished. GGs. I felt like Day9's game awareness was pretty off there. He seemingly thought IdrA had a dominating chance with that push even though MC had a shit ton of +2 blink stalkers...it was obviously going to be close.
The tunneling wouldn't have mattered. Two rows of force-fields made the roaches have to be burrowed for too long before they could get in range to attack and vision from observer meant the stalkers were getting free hits on the roaches the whole time.
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On June 20 2011 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:32 shaman6ix wrote:go ahaid brainwashed idra minions, whine about balance despite idra playing painfully bad 70 food lead = bad play? oh, wow, idra haters are just as bad as idra lovers.
Roaches inflate supply incredibly, it's hard not to be in the lead.
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