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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
June 20 2011 02:04 GMT
#21
I wanted to do this, but I'm afraid that I will have work several days at 1 pm est...I wish 2 times were available for each round, like 1 pm est, and 9 pm est, for each round, so it would work with people's schedules more.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
June 20 2011 02:09 GMT
#22
I don't quite trust the legitimacy of those account signups.

Zerg.267 is Korean Terran Player SlayerSRyung? Didn't Catz already change his ID to coLCatZ?

Iunno, it'd be cool if they were the actual players, but like a lot of euros and koreans pointed out, it's difficult when you have to play your matches at odd times (however Xeris did say most of the euros were playing at like 8-11pm their time, which shouldn't be a problem for a progamer so iunno what naniwa was talking about).

Anywayyy.
obsKura
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland1061 Posts
June 20 2011 10:22 GMT
#23
On June 20 2011 09:38 PsychedeliaNOR wrote:
Lol at the signups for SlayersMMA is the battle.net ID MAVENGENCE - a platinum player
Participants


This is probably his US account to play in the NASL. Maybe he did just the placement matches.
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TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
June 20 2011 10:42 GMT
#24
whoa ! slayers overrunning NASL
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 20 2011 17:16 GMT
#25
On June 20 2011 11:09 two.watup wrote:
I don't quite trust the legitimacy of those account signups.

Zerg.267 is Korean Terran Player SlayerSRyung? Didn't Catz already change his ID to coLCatZ?

Iunno, it'd be cool if they were the actual players, but like a lot of euros and koreans pointed out, it's difficult when you have to play your matches at odd times (however Xeris did say most of the euros were playing at like 8-11pm their time, which shouldn't be a problem for a progamer so iunno what naniwa was talking about).

Anywayyy.


Most Korean players don't actually play on the NA server, so they're probably using other people's accounts.
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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 18:53:43
June 20 2011 18:51 GMT
#26
On June 20 2011 11:04 Newguy wrote:
I wanted to do this, but I'm afraid that I will have work several days at 1 pm est...I wish 2 times were available for each round, like 1 pm est, and 9 pm est, for each round, so it would work with people's schedules more.


Where do you see those times? I only see those times listed for the Open tournament, not the Season 2 Qualifier tournament. Or are you assuming that those same times will apply?

Xeris, can you confirm that the same times are used for the qualifier tournament? Also is there any way you can be more flexible with the times/schedule... so that you know, you can allow North Americans a shot at participating in the North American Star League. Those times are perfect for Europeans, and still even better for Koreans than NA.

Edit: Also... any word on seeding?
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 20 2011 21:39 GMT
#27
On June 21 2011 03:51 Anihc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 11:04 Newguy wrote:
I wanted to do this, but I'm afraid that I will have work several days at 1 pm est...I wish 2 times were available for each round, like 1 pm est, and 9 pm est, for each round, so it would work with people's schedules more.


Where do you see those times? I only see those times listed for the Open tournament, not the Season 2 Qualifier tournament. Or are you assuming that those same times will apply?

Xeris, can you confirm that the same times are used for the qualifier tournament? Also is there any way you can be more flexible with the times/schedule... so that you know, you can allow North Americans a shot at participating in the North American Star League. Those times are perfect for Europeans, and still even better for Koreans than NA.

Edit: Also... any word on seeding?


Same rules apply (obviously the dates are different). Top players will be seeded.
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 22:11:40
June 20 2011 22:09 GMT
#28
the sky is blue and this tournament is awesome :D
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 21 2011 00:03 GMT
#29
there u go ;]]]
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andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
June 21 2011 14:34 GMT
#30
On June 21 2011 06:39 Xeris wrote:

Same rules apply (obviously the dates are different). Top players will be seeded.


Besides manual seeding of top players, are you going to seed the rest of the bracket on ladder rank? Seeding is always better than no seeding where an objective ratings system exists, particularly when it's single elim :-)
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
June 21 2011 15:38 GMT
#31
1:00 PM lol. It's only for those who don't work or go to school during the week I guess
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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
June 21 2011 17:24 GMT
#32
On June 21 2011 06:39 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:51 Anihc wrote:
On June 20 2011 11:04 Newguy wrote:
I wanted to do this, but I'm afraid that I will have work several days at 1 pm est...I wish 2 times were available for each round, like 1 pm est, and 9 pm est, for each round, so it would work with people's schedules more.


Where do you see those times? I only see those times listed for the Open tournament, not the Season 2 Qualifier tournament. Or are you assuming that those same times will apply?

Xeris, can you confirm that the same times are used for the qualifier tournament? Also is there any way you can be more flexible with the times/schedule... so that you know, you can allow North Americans a shot at participating in the North American Star League. Those times are perfect for Europeans, and still even better for Koreans than NA.

Edit: Also... any word on seeding?


Same rules apply (obviously the dates are different). Top players will be seeded.


So you can update your official site with the official rules/dates/times instead of having to make us guess? Don't "obviously" the dates are different, the current dates on the site are wrong even for the Open tournament.

And can you comment on scheduling flexibility? Your times are extremely unreasonable for a north american tournament. You can make the argument that if you can't make the times then you won't be able to make the times for the regular season, but it's completely different because the regular season is once a week, this qualifier tournament is every single day for a week.

And what does "top players will be seeded" mean? Ladder rank? TLPD ELO? Xeris' personal discretion? Why can't you have important rules for pay-to-play tournament decided and clearly stated before you hold the tournament?
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
June 21 2011 17:46 GMT
#33
On June 20 2011 09:16 StyLeD wrote:
lol this is like Catz' worst nightmare

edit: Hope to see alot of Koreans!~ I predict that there will be alot less NA players than in S1 lol, the talent pool in NA is just not that great.

I think the NA has great talent pool, just not enough to fill out 50 spots of elite players.
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
June 21 2011 18:09 GMT
#34
I would like to post my criticism of the 1pm time. I get and appreciate that the 1pm time does discourage the participation of people who are not currently "pro-gamers", however I think this is misguided. NASL is effectively suggesting in this logic that a person should quit their current job before interviewing for another job.

Many top players would be full-time gamers if they had financial support and they might be able to get financial support if their name was going to be front ant center in a big league such as the NASL. However, the NASL participation comes first, the big team signing comes second and the change to being a pro-gamer comes last. NASL has asked players to do things backwards and I think this might encourage irresponsibility on the part of potential pro-gamers.
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Naughty
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
June 21 2011 18:13 GMT
#35
1pm, kind of a bad time for N/A players it cuts into both standard work shift, I predict a lot of people not signing up.. or using up vacation time.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
June 21 2011 18:40 GMT
#36
On June 22 2011 03:09 MoreFaSho wrote:
I would like to post my criticism of the 1pm time. I get and appreciate that the 1pm time does discourage the participation of people who are not currently "pro-gamers", however I think this is misguided. NASL is effectively suggesting in this logic that a person should quit their current job before interviewing for another job.

Many top players would be full-time gamers if they had financial support and they might be able to get financial support if their name was going to be front ant center in a big league such as the NASL. However, the NASL participation comes first, the big team signing comes second and the change to being a pro-gamer comes last. NASL has asked players to do things backwards and I think this might encourage irresponsibility on the part of potential pro-gamers.


That's right. Nony explained it one time on state of the game
You become a progamer not by quitting everything and training 24/7 suddenly. You become a progamer by putting all of your free time into gaming without dropping anything else. If you can compete with the best players despite not being full time, you might want to consider going "all-in."

And I think NASL should adjust itself to follow the words of tyler, as this is the north AMERICAN star league and tyler is everything that is American.

So I think that discouraging non full time players from north america, this is kind of nasl shooting itself in the foot
get rich or die mining
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 18:59:18
June 21 2011 18:57 GMT
#37
On June 22 2011 02:24 Anihc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 06:39 Xeris wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:51 Anihc wrote:
On June 20 2011 11:04 Newguy wrote:
I wanted to do this, but I'm afraid that I will have work several days at 1 pm est...I wish 2 times were available for each round, like 1 pm est, and 9 pm est, for each round, so it would work with people's schedules more.


Where do you see those times? I only see those times listed for the Open tournament, not the Season 2 Qualifier tournament. Or are you assuming that those same times will apply?

Xeris, can you confirm that the same times are used for the qualifier tournament? Also is there any way you can be more flexible with the times/schedule... so that you know, you can allow North Americans a shot at participating in the North American Star League. Those times are perfect for Europeans, and still even better for Koreans than NA.

Edit: Also... any word on seeding?


Same rules apply (obviously the dates are different). Top players will be seeded.


So you can update your official site with the official rules/dates/times instead of having to make us guess? Don't "obviously" the dates are different, the current dates on the site are wrong even for the Open tournament.

And can you comment on scheduling flexibility? Your times are extremely unreasonable for a north american tournament. You can make the argument that if you can't make the times then you won't be able to make the times for the regular season, but it's completely different because the regular season is once a week, this qualifier tournament is every single day for a week.

And what does "top players will be seeded" mean? Ladder rank? TLPD ELO? Xeris' personal discretion? Why can't you have important rules for pay-to-play tournament decided and clearly stated before you hold the tournament?


A) I've already commented on scheduling flexibility. If your opponent agrees to a reschedule (NOTE: this means, playing later in the day, not moving it to a different day) that's fine with me. However, you must note that there are two days where multiple rounds are being played. So obviously you can't postpone your Ro256 game by several hours because that will delay the Ro128 game. Makes sense?

B) I'm kinda confused as to what you mean "update the site with rules/dates/times"? The Open is listed on the front page, starting Wednesday at 1pm EDT.... which is when the tournament starts. The (Open) tournament on BinaryBeast shows as starting Wednesday June 22nd, the rules say that the Ro256 (of the Open Tournament) is played Wednesday June 22nd @ 1pm EDT. Can you elaborate on where the dates are wrong?

C) Top players won't play each other in the beginning rounds of the tournament. I'll probably use TLPD ELO, but it's not 100%. I'm not really sure how this concerns you or anyone else. The important concern is: top players knocking each other out in Round 1-2... I've stated that this won't happen. Explaining how exactly the players are seeded doesn't really seem to be relevant. But, when possible, I'll use TLPD ELO to help.

Overall, I'm not entirely sure what your criticisms are... because I feel like everything has been answered before. But of course, if you have any questions you can always email me at xeris@nasl.tv . I answer questions practically 24/7 on my email.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 21 2011 19:02 GMT
#38
Glad to see some slayers guys. Hoping for some IM guys too :D
Saishuuheiki
Profile Joined November 2010
United States188 Posts
June 21 2011 19:17 GMT
#39
Looks like SlayerS are gonna being slaying some nerds in these qualifiers
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 21 2011 19:29 GMT
#40
I just double checked everywhere for errors in information and dates. I've made sure everything is up to date. If there are problems, please let me know and I can fix them asap
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
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