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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 05 2011 13:05 GMT
#221
On June 05 2011 22:03 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 21:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 05 2011 21:51 Yaotzin wrote:
Thanks, such a confusing system. Wish they'd just do it like the CL, pool play to seed then straight up knockout.

this ones complicated, but it works really well imo. just hard to understand, once you get it, its really good.


I love the format. Sure, it's confusing but it takes like 5 minutes to understand if you actually give it a try. The only downside is that it's absolutely brutal on the players but as a spectator it's just perfect.

yeah i agree, i remember the thread "doing MLG's job for them", read that and ive understood it clearly ever since, and yeah as a spectator, its perfect. in the long run its quite good, rewards the good players. and anyway, weve had 1 tourny so far, and it was one from someone from the open bracket, so its not impossible
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spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
June 05 2011 13:05 GMT
#222
On June 05 2011 22:03 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 22:02 spybreak wrote:
My thoughts on the seeding and the advantage of the pool players from the open bracket.

I guess the system is fine but for those who will finish 4th place and above ... I wouldn't really give them "they 4th finish" but rather the "they are seeded 4th for the next MLG". A little subtle difference but that's just for my anal brain =P

why? sure they had less games, but in theory they had much harder opponents, just look at the players they faced


Ok I guess I'll extend that to 9th place and above =P
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 13:06:15
June 05 2011 13:05 GMT
#223
On June 05 2011 22:03 Maenander wrote:
I don't like the way they seed the players into the bracket, it seems like they simply lump 2 groups together. Thorzain for example has to play MC again very soon if he manages to get this far, which will be an almost impossible task given the nature of the extended series. They should mix it up a little more.


It's a result of having 4 pools with 5 players, and there's no way around it. (instead of 4 pools with 4 players each)
Velocity`
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom343 Posts
June 05 2011 13:05 GMT
#224
So you guys planning on staying up till 6AM (GMT) to watch the grand finals? I'll try but it'll be pretty tough to stay awake.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 13:07:13
June 05 2011 13:05 GMT
#225
On June 05 2011 21:58 ChickenLips wrote:
I'm really happy with the tournament so far

I can even get along with the double elim + carrying over the score

but the way seeded players have A HUGE advantage over those from the open pool ... It just allows mediocre and even plain bad players to finish in spots they don't deserve, diminishing the results of those that have really worked hard and are up-and-coming.

Like MC said, GSL allows you to place highly just by thinking about good strategies (if you're in Code S you have to win 5 times to take the trophy), while tournaments like MLG force out the players that don't have the RTS basics to compete (that is unless you're seeded ......)


...

That's pretty contradictory, don't you think? (In terms of up-and-comers)

Seeded players either have a big advantage or disadvantage. That's just how the cookie crumbles with extended series. The players who compete in the open brackets are just as deserving man. That's a gauntlet in itself and players like July, T-Zain have to play another bo3s against the top seeds AFTER the fact as well. Yes, the guys who haven't met before and climbed through the loser brackets of the championships are in somewhat better shape because they didn't have to face those guys yet, but come on. Give me a break. They are up and comers themselves and they earned their shot.

Foreigner tournaments are a lot different than how the GSL works and its great. I like the different formats myself. I like to see players improvise.
TaoTeKing
Profile Joined April 2011
France481 Posts
June 05 2011 13:06 GMT
#226
On June 05 2011 21:48 pdd wrote:
Maybe a bit too early to discuss, but I'm kinda interested in this:

1. Who would be willing to go to GSL Code A?
- So far only Naniwa and Idra are certainties to get the Code A berth, but will they take it? I know Idra won't and Naniwa has expressed desires to go to GSL, but is it a little bit too early for him? This leaves two more open spots... I get the feeling that Sheth could be another likely candidate even if he doesn't make Top 3 foreigners, as he's going to Korea for GSTL anyway. I'm pretty sure Ret and Haypro won't be going back for Code A and Sheth has a pretty good chance of getting that berth. Kind of a good coincidence considering he can't make it for the Code A qualifiers.

2. Which Korean will return next MLG?
- MMA and Losira are almost certainly going to obtain enough points for seeds for Anaheim. July and MC have a pretty good chance as well. Moon is still in the running. Are they going to return? Assuming some of them do (I'm pretty sure SlayerS has enough sponsors to send MMA in again and oGs and ST have shown they don't mind sending players abroad), this might start to have an effect of concentrating the Korean base. We could have up to 9 Koreans (10 since Select may still be seeded due to his Dallas performance) seeded players next season. And it may continue to grow for the next few MLGs. I'm sure CatZ will not be very happy.



true that interesting and maybe too early^^
Zerg imba^^
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12355 Posts
June 05 2011 13:06 GMT
#227
*spoiler*
did anyone noticed that the game between MC and IdrA (2nd game)
MC positioned the immortals at front deliberately and positioned the stalkers to have a concave around them?

I think the overall outcome was idra losing lots of units due to that but the fungal did the damage that he wanted
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Saragas
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany431 Posts
June 05 2011 13:07 GMT
#228
On June 05 2011 22:05 Callous wrote:
So you guys planning on staying up till 6AM (GMT) to watch the grand finals? I'll try but it'll be pretty tough to stay awake.


Dont know in which United Kingdom you live, but the Finals do start at 1am CEST.
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
June 05 2011 13:07 GMT
#229
On June 05 2011 20:37 maJes wrote:
Is that gif from Ichi the Killer?

On topic: Idra hwaitiiiiiiiing



yeah i think it is Brutal film.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
seph`
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria329 Posts
June 05 2011 13:07 GMT
#230
hey guys, im a bit confused about all the results and games going on so far.
does anyone know if qxc is gonna play a match today ?
and are there any vods with qxc ?

thanks
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
June 05 2011 13:08 GMT
#231
On June 05 2011 22:05 Callous wrote:
So you guys planning on staying up till 6AM (GMT) to watch the grand finals? I'll try but it'll be pretty tough to stay awake.

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/17#event_36_event_schedule

7pm = midnight GMT
8:30pm = 1:30am GMT

Unless I'm missing something
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2011 13:08 GMT
#232
On June 05 2011 22:07 seph` wrote:
hey guys, im a bit confused about all the results and games going on so far.
does anyone know if qxc is gonna play a match today ?
and are there any vods with qxc ?

thanks


qxc is done.

Select took him out 2-1.

Use the TL Brackets.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 05 2011 13:08 GMT
#233
On June 05 2011 22:07 seph` wrote:
hey guys, im a bit confused about all the results and games going on so far.
does anyone know if qxc is gonna play a match today ?
and are there any vods with qxc ?

thanks


qxc is out of the tournament. They casted one of his matches late last night, but you'd have to check the VOD thread for that.
GurZtly
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria148 Posts
June 05 2011 13:09 GMT
#234
Ah great event so far and perfect handling of the Storm problems yesterday i thought we had to watch the eagle stream rest of the weekend^^. Does anyone know how day broadcast these matches? will they pick two out of each round one casted by tastosis one be Wheat, Day 9? or will the show all 4 by replay casting?
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
June 05 2011 13:09 GMT
#235
Oh my gosh, that bracket, look at how many Zergs are in the high seeds. This tourney is Zerg-dominated.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
June 05 2011 13:09 GMT
#236
On June 05 2011 22:09 HereBeDragons wrote:
Oh my gosh, that bracket, look at how many Zergs are in the high seeds. This tourney is Zerg-dominated.


yeah it looks like protoss dominating era has ended lol
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 05 2011 13:10 GMT
#237
On June 05 2011 22:09 HereBeDragons wrote:
Oh my gosh, that bracket, look at how many Zergs are in the high seeds. This tourney is Zerg-dominated.

Hell, its about time! #trashyoverusedsaying
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1989 Posts
June 05 2011 13:10 GMT
#238
Cant see Idra winning another series now, Nani vrs Losira is tough to call though. I hope Nani can pull it off.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
myzael
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Poland605 Posts
June 05 2011 13:10 GMT
#239
On June 05 2011 22:00 kratos-23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 21:46 myzael wrote:
On June 05 2011 21:42 Death_Gun wrote:
On June 05 2011 21:37 zero445 wrote:
day1 + day2 replay pack
47 mb

http://student.agh.edu.pl/~mjakub/temp/MLG Collumbus 2011 - Starcraft II.zip

thx to myzael
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=229687

are there the throzain vs mc replays??? Cant find them on the brackets.

I've checked if the pack is up to date and, no there aren't for now. The pack is compiled from MLG website, so if there are none, it will not contain them unfortunately. I am not proficient enough to retrieve non existing ones

there are replays from the mc vs thorzain match here:
http://www.sc2rep.com/

They are now up on MLG site too, so expect them included in the next version of my pack
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 05 2011 13:11 GMT
#240
On June 05 2011 22:05 spybreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 22:03 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 05 2011 22:02 spybreak wrote:
My thoughts on the seeding and the advantage of the pool players from the open bracket.

I guess the system is fine but for those who will finish 4th place and above ... I wouldn't really give them "they 4th finish" but rather the "they are seeded 4th for the next MLG". A little subtle difference but that's just for my anal brain =P

why? sure they had less games, but in theory they had much harder opponents, just look at the players they faced


Ok I guess I'll extend that to 9th place and above =P

i dunno, personally i think MLG does a good job of getting the players sorted in the right order of how well they played
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