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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402)
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
June 05 2011 04:00 GMT
#17761
Gretorp could have anywhere from 260-290 points.

That should put him between 24th and 26th on points. So it would take 8-10 guys not showing up in Anaheim for him to be in Pool Play.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 04:01:35
June 05 2011 04:00 GMT
#17762
On June 05 2011 12:58 mholden02 wrote:
There's a ton of really good Euro players not at MLG: Kas, WhiteRaw, Happy, Dimaga, Sen, Hasu - Europe has a ton of good players.

Too bad NA is so far behind in SC2 development. Besides Idra who developed his game in Korea, nobody has stepped up. Kiwi and Select, the two best NA Toss and Terran didn't play particularly well. SixJax Major had a good showing, but thats about it.

Something has to be done to improve the skill level. Starcraft will never reach the heights we all want it to if NA can't produce world class champions.


Sen is not European

edit: ninja'd
WCH
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada239 Posts
June 05 2011 04:00 GMT
#17763
Anyone know when the winners bracket will be played tmrw?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 04:01 GMT
#17764
On June 05 2011 13:00 WCH wrote:
Anyone know when the winners bracket will be played tmrw?


Noon I believe? I'm not sure.
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.Riot
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines242 Posts
June 05 2011 04:01 GMT
#17765
On June 05 2011 12:58 mholden02 wrote:
There's a ton of really good Euro players not at MLG: Kas, WhiteRaw, Happy, Dimaga, Sen, Hasu - Europe has a ton of good players.

Too bad NA is so far behind in SC2 development. Besides Idra who developed his game in Korea, nobody has stepped up. Kiwi and Select, the two best NA Toss and Terran didn't play particularly well. SixJax Major had a good showing, but thats about it.

Something has to be done to improve the skill level. Starcraft will never reach the heights we all want it to if NA can't produce world class champions.

Just to clear it up, Sen isn't from EU. He's from SEA; Taiwan.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 05 2011 04:01 GMT
#17766
On June 05 2011 12:59 eloist wrote:
I missed it, was MC vs Thorzain good?

No one knows :[
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
mholden02
Profile Joined October 2010
387 Posts
June 05 2011 04:01 GMT
#17767
Replays available here
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
June 05 2011 04:01 GMT
#17768
On June 05 2011 12:58 mholden02 wrote:
There's a ton of really good Euro players not at MLG: Kas, WhiteRaw, Happy, Dimaga, Sen, Hasu - Europe has a ton of good players.

Too bad NA is so far behind in SC2 development. Besides Idra who developed his game in Korea, nobody has stepped up. Kiwi and Select, the two best NA Toss and Terran didn't play particularly well. SixJax Major had a good showing, but thats about it.

Something has to be done to improve the skill level. Starcraft will never reach the heights we all want it to if NA can't produce world class champions.


The problem is the NA scene does what it can to keep the 'top' at the top. The same top players from beta are the top players now. Whereas in EU and Korea, the scene has evolved greatly from beta.

The sponsors in NA only care about sponsoring those with big names that were established in beta, rather than seeking out players that are actually good, of which I'm sure NA has plenty to offer lurking on the ladder.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 05 2011 04:01 GMT
#17769
On June 05 2011 13:00 mholden02 wrote:
MC vs Thorzain was 1 sided. Unfortunately.


But not surprisingly... as much as I love Thorzain, he's gonna have a hell of a time trying to beat Select again (especially if Select's confidence is back up if/when he beats inControl, where I think Select is heavily favoured). He gets a match against Machine (Thorzain favoured but I consider it his weakest MU), and then... MC again. Don't see Thorzain making it out of that one.
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 04:09:37
June 05 2011 04:02 GMT
#17770
On June 05 2011 12:58 mholden02 wrote:
There's a ton of really good Euro players not at MLG: Kas, WhiteRaw, Happy, Dimaga, Sen, Hasu - Europe has a ton of good players.

Too bad NA is so far behind in SC2 development. Besides Idra who developed his game in Korea, nobody has stepped up. Kiwi and Select, the two best NA Toss and Terran didn't play particularly well. SixJax Major had a good showing, but thats about it.

Something has to be done to improve the skill level. Starcraft will never reach the heights we all want it to if NA can't produce world class champions.



??

While IdrA was indeed trained in Korea for awhile NA has plenty of great SC2 players, some not at this tournament. Huk is a two time Code S player, and while he has suffered from inconsistancy, he has shown exceptional results at times. Fenix, while arguably an SA player, has had a solid showing at the tournament. I believe Sheth is also from NA. and SixJax-Vibe, a comparative unknown from NA, has had a beastly showing so far from the open bracket, taking down two dominant EU players: Morrow, and TLO.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 04:07:00
June 05 2011 04:04 GMT
#17771
Poor Liquid and EG
[image loading]

TLO and Axslav were also in the same bracket as there team mates... that sucks
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
June 05 2011 04:05 GMT
#17772
On June 05 2011 12:58 mholden02 wrote:
There's a ton of really good Euro players not at MLG: Kas, WhiteRaw, Happy, Dimaga, Sen, Hasu - Europe has a ton of good players.

Too bad NA is so far behind in SC2 development. Besides Idra who developed his game in Korea, nobody has stepped up. Kiwi and Select, the two best NA Toss and Terran didn't play particularly well. SixJax Major had a good showing, but thats about it.

Something has to be done to improve the skill level. Starcraft will never reach the heights we all want it to if NA can't produce world class champions.


Chillax, SC2 is still in it's early stage. Not every country can be good at everything, but they will have at least 1-2 players who will be really good at it, and the years go by, each era will have its hero.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 05 2011 04:06 GMT
#17773
On June 05 2011 13:04 yawnoC wrote:
Poor Liquid :\
[image loading]

WOW. That is some anti-luck. Poor Liquid indeed :[
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Refused.
Profile Joined March 2011
United States108 Posts
June 05 2011 04:06 GMT
#17774
On June 05 2011 12:58 mholden02 wrote:
There's a ton of really good Euro players not at MLG: Kas, WhiteRaw, Happy, Dimaga, Sen, Hasu - Europe has a ton of good players.

Too bad NA is so far behind in SC2 development. Besides Idra who developed his game in Korea, nobody has stepped up. Kiwi and Select, the two best NA Toss and Terran didn't play particularly well. SixJax Major had a good showing, but thats about it.

Something has to be done to improve the skill level. Starcraft will never reach the heights we all want it to if NA can't produce world class champions.


Behind in development? The only foreign Code S player right now is from NA.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 05 2011 04:07 GMT
#17775
On June 05 2011 13:04 yawnoC wrote:
Poor Liquid and EG
[image loading]

TLO and Axslav were also in the same bracket as there team mates... that sucks

Wow what if Tyler wins, and then Sixjax.Major gets a nearly all kill on Liquid
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mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
June 05 2011 04:08 GMT
#17776
On June 05 2011 13:04 yawnoC wrote:
Poor Liquid and EG
[image loading]

TLO and Axslav were also in the same bracket as there team mates... that sucks


That is the worst, there of the same team in a bracket to the top.
They should do something about that
mholden02
Profile Joined October 2010
387 Posts
June 05 2011 04:08 GMT
#17777


While IdrA was indeed trained in Korea for awhile NA has plenty of great SC2 players, some not at this tournament. Huk is a two time Code S player, and while he has suffered from inconsistancy, he has shown exceptional results at times. Fenix, while arguably an SA player, has had a solid showing at the tournament. I believe Sheth is also from NA.


NA sucks man. Don't sugar coat reality. Huk and Idra, thats it hunh. 2 frickin players who can win vs top international competition?

And Sheth has won or placed in what?
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 04:10:02
June 05 2011 04:09 GMT
#17778

nvm ha ha silly me
Forever ZeNEX.
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
June 05 2011 04:10 GMT
#17779
On June 05 2011 13:08 mechavoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 13:04 yawnoC wrote:
Poor Liquid and EG
[image loading]

TLO and Axslav were also in the same bracket as there team mates... that sucks


That is the worst, there of the same team in a bracket to the top.
They should do something about that


There's a couple of ways to look at it. Of course it's team-killing, but it means there's a higher chance of at least one Liquid player advancing.

If all three were in different brackets there would be a higher chance of NONE of them making it.
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 05 2011 04:11 GMT
#17780
On June 05 2011 13:10 bobwhiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 13:08 mechavoc wrote:
On June 05 2011 13:04 yawnoC wrote:
Poor Liquid and EG
[image loading]

TLO and Axslav were also in the same bracket as there team mates... that sucks


That is the worst, there of the same team in a bracket to the top.
They should do something about that


There's a couple of ways to look at it. Of course it's team-killing, but it means there's a higher chance of at least one Liquid player advancing.

If all three were in different brackets there would be a higher chance of NONE of them making it.

True. There's a 50% - 100% chance that a liquid player will make it past that round instead of just the base 50.
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