Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402)

Chainfire99

Canada474 Posts

June 05 2011 02:54 GMT

#17101

On June 05 2011 11:53 rysecake wrote:

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Tons? Might be exaggerating your numbers man. Correct choice of words here is "few"

And the small number of foreigners that do play sc2 full-time and are fortunate to make a living off of it...I would say that not many of them are in gaming houses run by coaches in which they play against other high level players in a private setting.

Radical

United States481 Posts

June 05 2011 02:54 GMT

#17102

On June 05 2011 11:54 OrangeSoda wrote:

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july

HAHAHAHA

CEPEHDREI

Germany1521 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17103

On June 05 2011 11:54 Koshi wrote:

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For once I will be cheering for Cruncher. Never thought I would say that.

why is it saying vibe v tlo?

rolfe

United Kingdom1266 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17104

since people are already well off topic i guess it can't hurt to ask... are there many decent counter strike tournaments anymore? i'd quite like to watch one sometime

Highways

Australia6111 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17105

Liquipedia has the brackets:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Columbus#Championship_Bracket

khanofmongols

542 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17106

wow possible MC v July if they both win!

javy_

United States1677 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17107

On June 05 2011 11:54 OrangeSoda wrote:

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july

orange soda came out my nose because i was laughing so hard

Nidoa

Canada239 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17108

wow not looking good for Liquid. All their players are on the same branch of the loser's bracket. They'll be teamkilling each other all the way.

Also, Incontrol and Machine could meet as well lol.

fartdra

92 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17109

On June 05 2011 11:47 Ocedic wrote:

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On June 05 2011 11:43 Chainfire99 wrote:

On June 05 2011 11:38 sleigh bells wrote:

On June 05 2011 11:35 Chainfire99 wrote:

On June 05 2011 11:31 Golgotha wrote:

On June 05 2011 11:29 Chainfire99 wrote:
Bragging rights? It's not a fair competition. You have pro Korean players who can make a living off of competing in the game...they can afford to practice 60+ hrs a week in gaming houses with several other similarly skilled teammates and coaches overseeing everything. The majority of non-Korean "pros" aren't ableto do the same. Practice and hard work is everything.

IMO the Koreans aren't dominating enough, they shouldn't lose a game EVER.

^lol you clearly do not understand the game very well. Even IDRA said that there it is very difficult to completely dominate the game as a player with near perfect consistency. And yet, the Koreans are showing that they are a cut above the rest. Don't be mad at me

be mad at the stats

Korea fighting!!!!!!

yea but you're a fool. It's cool that you are a proud Korean but your arrogance is off-putting. It's like watching Brock Lesnar beat the crap out of a young heavyweight with far less experience in mma and rubbing in the inevitable beat down in everyone's faces.

Koreans aren't better because of their ethnicity...they aren't special outside of their great and fortunate environment that they are exposed to. If Non-Koreans could afford team houses and to be able to practice 60+ hrs a week then there would be ZERO difference in skill.

holy shit, you'd be a buzzkill to watch the olympics with

Until someone can show me a report where it proves that Koreans have some kind of unique gene specific to their ethnicity that makes them better than non-Koreans at playing sc2 (hand speed/multi-tasking/reaction time) than the skill gap between them and others around the world is due to a unique environment. Starcraft is huge in South Korea. It is big money over there thus Koreans can grow up practicing because being a pro gamer is a more viable career than anywhere else in the world. The more hours you put into something the better you become generally speaking. They say it takes 10,000 hrs till someone becomes an expert in whatever endeavor they undertake. I guarantee you that on average Koreans are closer to that mark then their foreign colleagues. Being able to practice for far more hours with similarly excellently skilled players will make you better on average than those who don't. This is all common sense. So all the denial and gloating is foolish.

You're so dumb. No, Koreans are not genetically superior at StarCraft. The vast majority of people do not claim this.

Yes, Koreans tend to do better because of more practice. So what's your point? You could say "If I practiced chess/Counterstrike/archery/whatever as much as the top competitors, I would be a top competitor!" What does that even prove? It just means other put in the time and you don't. Saying they practice more doesn't take away from them being better.

the genetics argument has already been solved by this MLG tourney, koreans that come from GSL and train in korea are superior than koreans who don't (aka select, moonan, kawaiirice). so it is not about genetics, it is about environment. if koreans were genetically better, then select moonana and kawaii should be tearing it up but they're not, so its not genetics, its environment

elmizzt

United States3309 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17110

On June 05 2011 11:54 hiyo_bye wrote:
The people with the 6 rax sign are getting incredibly annoying now

you are incredibly easily annoyed

Medrea

10003 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17111

On June 05 2011 11:52 TheHova wrote:

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He could kinda have an argument with CS 1.6 or something... The calibre of players at the top was insane but... Halo? Sorry no dice.

Even then i'd say BW is harder.
Infact the more i think about it, way harder.

I agree with you entirely, yes.

1.6 had some insane players. I remember when fatal1ty joined a pro counter strike team and was removed because, well he just could not stop shooting his own team mates.

Nabes

Canada1800 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17112

On June 05 2011 11:54 flowSthead wrote:
Thorzain will have to play MC again if he wants to win the whole thing. And he will be at an extended series disadvantage. Not looking good.

Tsl 3 finals thorzain come back

-Strider-

Mexico1605 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17113

Omg what a shame for liquid, all of them in the same bracket =/

scaban84

United States1080 Posts

June 05 2011 02:55 GMT

#17114

Any FPS where you spawn with a full kit is a joke. I see these guys playing capture the flag and I'm thinking... Whats the point if a defender is going to spawn at any second with a full kit?

PeggyHill

1494 Posts

June 05 2011 02:56 GMT

#17115

Are there any more games tonight?

svi

405 Posts

June 05 2011 02:56 GMT

#17116

On June 05 2011 11:53 mpf189 wrote:

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Idra and maybe Slush? Extremely odd that you picked Slush as the only other player that can compete lol..considering there are dozens of foreign players that are better than him.

i mentioned slush because i was mainly talking about the north american players. he was the only one that didn't lose to a top korean (he beat moon who isn't really top but didn't have a chance to play the others).

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

June 05 2011 02:56 GMT

#17117

On June 05 2011 11:54 Karak wrote:
I'm going to assume QXC is currently losing his shit at TLO for quitting the game without an official ruling? As someone who has made plenty of prop bets in his life, let me say that entire sequence of events felt very much like an angle shoot. Insta leaving before getting an official ruling? Just realizing it 5-6 mins into the game after things were not looking so good for you? Even if it weren't an angle, why would you quit without getting an official ruling?

Im gonna bet you're wrong

Sermokala

United States14115 Posts

June 05 2011 02:56 GMT

#17118

On June 05 2011 11:52 Falcor wrote:

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Other then seting up the strat, its a really fast pace game? where people die almost instantly and 1 guy can ace a team in under 5 seconds?

after what like 5 10 minutes of them jsut moving around hideing behind walls throwing random nades they hope for luck wins? name any moment ever in halo when things arn't happening?