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Recordings of todays games are playing on http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red and http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Blue - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229478&currentpage=389#7772 for how to skip to games
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 04 2011 11:44 GMT
#7941
On June 04 2011 16:52 Plexa wrote:
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On June 04 2011 16:49 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:48 xbankx wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:37 Plexa wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:36 xbankx wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:33 Devolved wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:22 SundeR. wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:20 nAgeDitto wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:17 Nolot wrote:
Not surprised zergs are owning, after all the insane buffs they got recently. I'm thinking a ZvZ final for this one, IdrA vs july

I wouldn't say its the insane buff. If you think about it they're last buff was like 2 patches ago. I just think they're finally figuring out how to play Zerg, just like Protoss players finally figured out how to play protoss despite the constant nerf ever since the beginning of the release of wings of liberty.


Pretty spot on imo.

If you look at the play style of zergs of early sc2 and zergs of now, theres a MASSIVE difference.

think thats what is leading to a huge 'rise' of zergs in major tourneys (of course players that were great even w/ the 'wrong' playstyle pretty much performed well.)


I would like to know about this 'insane' buff and where I can read up on it.

There's a big difference between Protoss figuring out how to exploit various ridiculousness versus particular races and Zerg figuring out how to adapt to all of those ridiculous exploitations, just saying.

I'd say Roach range and Fungal damage/time were some pretty huge buffs. You can read up on them in the patch notes. I'm not saying it's OP, but it definitely increased Zerg's chances of winning. Helions and Reapers can no longer kite Roaches and any type of bio play or drop play is much harder now due to the Fungal buff.


I start with 40-50 marines by the time I get to a zergs base Im down to like 20 marines. Fungal is the storm that just keeps giving.
No doubt fungal is a really good spell, but it's not like there are equally good things in the Terran arsenal. Blue flame hellions? Medivac drops? Too early to conclude that the fungal buffs made it imba, especially considering the investment that infestors are.


Its defintely weaker compared to storm in context since storm+colossus was just luls but yea it is a strong spell and if you compare it out of context it is definitely stronger than storm. I am just quite surprised why I haven't seen infestor drops in mineral line cause when zerg explores that I think the game is gonna be silly.

Because baneling drops are stronger/more cost efficient.

Dno about that. They're good at straight up trading armies and hence compounding an existing macro advantage but I dno about whether they're cost efficient in a equal economy game.


they are good against bad players who are a clicking into you

but if the protoss just forcefields the main army then walks away, stopping to focus down an overlord every now and again baneling drops arent so good. you either need infestors or a surrond for it to work
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
June 04 2011 11:47 GMT
#7942
Do I have to have the premium stream in order to skip games? It doesn't fucking work for me
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
June 04 2011 11:51 GMT
#7943
Watched MorroW's replays just now. Man, he chewed on DDE and spat him out, just to put him into his mouth again and repeat it. Poor DDE, such awesome mutalisk play. Hope MorroW beats Slog and Fenix/ViBe and gets into the pool, preferably pool A or B! :D
#freeshauni
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 11:52:24
June 04 2011 11:52 GMT
#7944
On June 04 2011 20:44 Dingobloo wrote:
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On June 04 2011 20:43 dooraven wrote:
I'm a bit confused about Nani, on the LR it states that he is 2-1 but TL's twitter states:
Naniwa wins vs slush to take a 3-0 lead in his group


Sooo which one is it?


2-1 is correct, TL's twitter is the only place that i know that lists him as 3-0, the official scores show 2-1 and so does the mlg scores twitter.

MLG posted wrong results last MLG as well. Also the MLGs Liveblog shows Nani as 3-0
I am pretty certain the MLG results page is wrong.
leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
June 04 2011 11:54 GMT
#7945
On June 04 2011 20:44 Dingobloo wrote:
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On June 04 2011 20:43 dooraven wrote:
I'm a bit confused about Nani, on the LR it states that he is 2-1 but TL's twitter states:
Naniwa wins vs slush to take a 3-0 lead in his group


Sooo which one is it?


2-1 is correct, TL's twitter is the only place that i know that lists him as 3-0, the official scores show 2-1 and so does the mlg scores twitter.

Really confusing. The live blog shows something like "slush upset naniwa 2-1" but the group standing beneath it shows naniwa 3-0 in groups
Designakrobat
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany558 Posts
June 04 2011 11:58 GMT
#7946
On June 04 2011 19:43 freerolll wrote:
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On June 04 2011 19:36 Designakrobat wrote:
wow, i just watched the interview with mc after he beat ret and man, he is cocky as fuck....i just pray that he will be destroyed this mlg, even though i doubt it



where can I find this interview? Ty in advance!


if you watch the red vod it should be up after his game vs ret. i really like that people grow themselves some balls and start talking smack. makes the whole thing so much more entertaining. but its another story talking crap about someone who just shat on you :D
"Immortal/Roach is pretty good against Stalkers" -IdrA
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 04 2011 11:59 GMT
#7947
TLO vs Machine game3 is sick also
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HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
June 04 2011 11:59 GMT
#7948
On June 04 2011 20:33 Phantom_Sky wrote:


Interview of July's First Opponent, vVv d_wAy by CSN Rachel



What a lax guy, vVv guys are ALLLLRIIGHT.
Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 12:07:43
June 04 2011 12:01 GMT
#7949
On June 04 2011 18:03 Devolved wrote:
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On June 04 2011 17:25 Lann555 wrote:
I have been trying to watch TLO vs Losira for over 20 minuts now. First I got 5 minuts of Tastosis. Then 5 minuts black screen, then 10 minuts of Dr. Pepper commercials...now black screen again.

Is this normal?

I got 5 minutes of Tastosis, 10 minutes of black screen, 10 minutes of cell phone commercials...now black screen again. Hopefully there are games somewhere in here, but it's loading so slowwwwwww.....

Yep, you have to let it load all the way or you can't fast forward. It's so god damn annoying. It's really a joke, they have a solid 24/7 weeks worth of matches they could be showing but it's all talking and commercials. The talking is fine for the first couple of mlgs but really at this stage just show the freaking matches...

It finally starts at 24 minutes in. The quality is very nice and ofc tastosis are awesome!
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 12:03:38
June 04 2011 12:02 GMT
#7950
On June 04 2011 20:52 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 20:44 Dingobloo wrote:
On June 04 2011 20:43 dooraven wrote:
I'm a bit confused about Nani, on the LR it states that he is 2-1 but TL's twitter states:
Naniwa wins vs slush to take a 3-0 lead in his group


Sooo which one is it?


2-1 is correct, TL's twitter is the only place that i know that lists him as 3-0, the official scores show 2-1 and so does the mlg scores twitter.

MLG posted wrong results last MLG as well. Also the MLGs Liveblog shows Nani as 3-0
I am pretty certain the MLG results page is wrong.


Rootedward has slush taking naniwa 2-1 pretty sure it's correct. It always seems to be the disputed ones where the replays go up last...
Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
June 04 2011 12:21 GMT
#7951
So did all the zergs suddenly become the best players?
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 12:28:50
June 04 2011 12:28 GMT
#7952
On June 04 2011 21:21 Coolwhip wrote:
So did all the zergs suddenly become the best players?


No, they just realized u cant beat everyone with roach/hyrda/corruptor, so they decided to make some other units.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
June 04 2011 12:39 GMT
#7953
So there are only VODs available for Idra vs MC and Kiwi vs MMA as well as TLO vs Losira?
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
ezekiel22
Profile Joined January 2011
100 Posts
June 04 2011 12:40 GMT
#7954
A question:
Anyone says how the 4 open bracket winners will be seeded into the Pools ?
For example: If Morrow beats Slog and Fenix/ViBe in which Group he will be seeded ?

Thanks
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 12:41:58
June 04 2011 12:41 GMT
#7955
On June 04 2011 21:39 Titorelli wrote:
So there are only VODs available for Idra vs MC and Kiwi vs MMA as well as TLO vs Losira?

The entirety of both streams are available. Red and blue.
Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
June 04 2011 12:42 GMT
#7956
On June 04 2011 21:21 Coolwhip wrote:
So did all the zergs suddenly become the best players?

It's not so sudden. Morrow, Idra, and Ret have all won major tournaments. Sheth is one of the best zergs in North America. And then there is July and Losira, 2 of Korea's top zerg players. If you think about it, all 6 can make it into the top 8 and it wouldn't really be that out of place. Individually, each of these players have top level skills regardless of the race they play.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
June 04 2011 12:45 GMT
#7957
On June 04 2011 21:41 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 21:39 Titorelli wrote:
So there are only VODs available for Idra vs MC and Kiwi vs MMA as well as TLO vs Losira?

The entirety of both streams are available. Red and blue.


Thanks man!
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
June 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#7958
Lol some serious stomping happening in the Open bracket. It is to be expected but all the same. Some of the games are quiet fun.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 13:03:16
June 04 2011 12:56 GMT
#7959
Can't I skip forward in time? Watched the first game Idra vs MC then the VoD crashed during second game.

It's killing me

Edit: Working when not picking the specific game
just_godlike
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom27 Posts
June 04 2011 13:22 GMT
#7960
Can I watch the VODs that I missed for free or do I have to purchase a HD pass?
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