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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
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Maskedsatyr
Singapore1245 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:07 epoc wrote: Guys mc is still in gsl. So if he goes against nestea nestea is done for. Remember what happened to july? No he isn't Alica beat him | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:07 FuzzyJAM wrote: NesTea played spectacularly but people need to recognise that he also played very riskily at some points, especially game one which Bomber nearly came back from despite missing the earlier opportunity to punish NesTea. Game 2 Bomber just didn't play all that fantastically, at least by the high standards we have for him. NesTea is obviously the favourite in the tournament now but it's not like he just showed himself to be unbeatable. So basically because he destroyed the best (or second best) Terran in the world in only one of their games in his 2-0 victory (the other being a close win) Nestea is not that good? | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:11 Sniffy wrote: you need to see insane shit for a game to be worth watching? what about just good solid play? I don't, I didn't say it wasn't worth watching, it just wasn't exciting. Like I said originally it's cool to see NesTea play because he's just good and solid all around. The insane shit comment was for the guy I quoted =). See it like this, I won't remember this game for it's awesome strategies or something, but I'll remember NesTea for his solid play; not this game particulary. | ||
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fant0m
964 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:07 HolyArrow wrote: He means poor MKP because he thinks that a MKP vs. Nestea final would result in MKP getting roflstomped (and thus we'd see him facedown on his keyboard and break everyone's hearts) What it would mean is that MKP will have been to FOUR finals..... and played against ONE enemy team (IM), and only played against TWO different players, both of which are 2 of the best SC2 players on the planet at the moment. On June 01 2011 23:07 kheldorin wrote: July beat Huk on this map also. It doesn't matter how many reasons you might think why it is bad for zerg if you don't have data to back it up with. WHAT? July is on a totally different level than HuK. Map doesn't even that skill gap, sorry. I know this is TL, but you can't be THAT biased. I like HuK, but July is a much better player. | ||
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pirates
United States701 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:11 TehForce wrote: My point was that your point is invalid. Only because Ravens could be picked off doesn't mean you can't build them. If your point was true there would be no reason to build medivacs too. My point was that you didn't disprove my point. No pros make Ravens TvZ. They aren't good. LOL yeah try not making medivacs and see how that goes for you... | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:06 Fyzar wrote: Sorry, but this got lost in the BANELING BOOOOOMBS  .Maybe this isn't the right time to ask it, but the games of MVP vs GanZi, were they actually good? 'Cause most of the times when some good guy gets beaten by someone else people just say yes for the sake of it. Ho yes they were. In fact, you can watch all of today's game without hesitation, they all worth it, even the not so recommended ryung vs violet. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:08 MrSpider wrote: Is not bronze analysis, its true. Ravens are just perfect against strong mutas. Its just more difficult to micro and more risky than pumping marine. If Blizzard actually lowers the energy cost of HSM it would be useful and maybe lower the damage or the radius of it if the other races starts to whine . I am actually baffled that blizzard doesn't make changes like this . It opens so many more variation of game play . Right now it is just an other useless ability and it's not the only one . | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:14 MrCon wrote: Ho yes they were. In fact, you can watch all of today's game without hesitation, they all worth it, even the not so recommended ryung vs violet. That's good to know, thanks  . | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:11 dc302 wrote: I know its old but thats how FD won a lot of his games in GSL1 iirc xD You mean when Ultralisk splash was based around the unit they were attacking? When they attacked CC/Hatch/Nexus they literally damaged half the friggen screen. lol. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:07 fant0m wrote: Exciting =/= Close. Not all the time. Otherwise Revival vs. Ensnare would be considered one of the best games in GSL history. Did you not see all of the insane shit that Nestea just pulled? Against one of the best Terrans in the world? In a matchup that many would consider most of what he did impossible to win with? I mean seriously, when was the last time you saw someone have >100 workers AND mass Ultralisks (same thing as Carriers or *mass* Thor tbh) and win the game??? Yeah you're right, whenever a Zerg wins he did the impossible. Ultralisks have 6 armour (fully upgraded) and are gigantic. This means Marines do 3 damage (fully upgraded) and Tanks don't splash on them. With Speedling support, Ultralisks are devastating against standard Marine/Tank until the Terran can start incorporating Marauders. Stop acting like he went mass Corruptors and won or something. | ||
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bobwhiz
United States725 Posts
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
Nice, nice | ||
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Erionn
United States1015 Posts
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shadymmj
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:14 raga4ka wrote: If Blizzard actually lowers the energy cost of HSM it would be useful and maybe lower the damage or the radius of it if the other races starts to whine . I am actually baffled that blizzard doesn't make changes like this . It opens so many more variation of game play . Right now is just a useless ability and it's not the only one . auto turret has limited uses as well. GIMME SVs BACK!! | ||
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TehForce
1072 Posts
Crossfire SE TvZ: 7-8 (46.7%) ZvP: 6-6 (50%) PvT: 5-6 (45.5%) Seems pretty reasonable | ||
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jinixxx123
543 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:04 stoptherage wrote: First game was good, second game wasnt close bomber was definitely still rattled from that first game but its nice to see zerg win on crossfire imo didnt nestea beat scfou on crossfire also? didnt nestea have the chance to eliminate this map but choose to eliminate xel naga caverns instead, so clearly its not as bad as you guys think it is ( atleast not for nestea anyway hes to godly thats why, iq 100000000000 | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
All in all, this shows that the match up TvZ is still pretty much undiscovered even at the top level play. Yesterday's NaDa showcased spectacular TvZs that allowed him to "control" opponent while still allowing himself to set up expansions for a good macro game. Yet, despite how hard he dominated, his play, was not refined at all, to where he had floating minerals (1k +) and only had 7 barracks with no reactor making marines on 4 bases (one of the reasons why he was floating minerals). But the right mindset, great understanding of timings and great control over the opponent won him the game so convincingly that he would have won even if he had even 2 or 3k minerals in his bank. To be honest, as a long time watcher of broodwar, I really believe that despite how well Nestea played today, each races' full potentials are no where close to being reached by any of the current starcraft 2 players. There is a lot of room for improvement and I believe that unless a top tier player on the scales of Flash or Jaedong plays sc2, we will only see a glimmer of just what is capable. | ||
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