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Misoza
Australia571 Posts
On June 01 2011 22:58 gh0un wrote: Why do terrans refuse to ever build a raven in a 20 minute game? Do they like losing because of some random baneling mine? Personally, I feel if I build a raven when mutas are already out, the zerg can kill it whenever it wants. If you have an army scary enough that the mutas can't snipe it, you've probably already won. | ||
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Pajegetc
United States3158 Posts
Cause Zerg love to complain even though the evidence contradicts it usually. Crossfire has so many paths to counterattack. | ||
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TehForce
1072 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:01 pirates wrote: Ravens die so easily to mutas. Do you think any Terran honestly is going to make an Air unit that is SLOWER than mutas, cost twice the gas as a muta, dies instantly to mutas and have it on a separate hotkey to potentially survive for 4 minutes? Ravens aren't really an option at all when your opponent has 35 mutas with +2 attack. In Broodwar the Terran Drophsip was slower than Scourge which was an Anti-Air Baneling and only 2 Scourges (= 1 Larvae) killed an entire dropship. Still every terran is dropping the Zerg. | ||
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gh0un
601 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:03 nam nam wrote: His point was with 29 mutas on the field, building a raven and not building a raven is pretty much the same thing. How are you going to stop the mutas from simply going in and sniping the raven? If we are talking about a raven that is following the marine army, then there is no way the mutas can fly in and snipe the raven before the marines deal more damage to the mutalisks. Why you ask? The answer is pdd. | ||
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Griffith`
714 Posts
what is the reward for winning 3 GSLs? golden browder? | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
Nah mkp will take that easily. You just see if they meet in the finals | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:04 Rayansaki wrote: Nestea is the last player from the very top of the food chain in the tournament. I feel like Nada is the only one with a chance (and Alicia, but you don't want to fight Nestea ZvP). I would bet money on it now ;> What about MarineKing? In my opinion he has a better TvZ than Bomber, and I think his style might hurt NesTea more. | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
 .Maybe this isn't the right time to ask it, but the games of MVP vs GanZi, were they actually good? 'Cause most of the times when some good guy gets beaten by someone else people just say yes for the sake of it. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
Why? Mkp is one of the few left who has a chance at taking down nestea (mvp is gone) | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
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HQuality
2682 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:05 Griffith` wrote: nestea possibly the first zerg SC2 bonjwa? =P what is the reward for winning 3 GSLs? golden browder? if he will take 3 gsl's one by one + wcg probably he would be do u think it's possible atm? i don't think so | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:05 Yaotzin wrote: It's super hard to keep a raven alive with a hunting flock of mutas. Plus no terran wants to put a tech lab on their starport just for a raven. They need it producing medivacs and vikings. Exactly you just have to constantly scan while moving forward. I think Thorzain vs Nestea in TSL was an excelent example. I think that was the MU, he pretty much just constantly scanned and caught every landmine. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
Master zerg, ty. But yeah, no raven, go for it. Cry more about baneling bombs *shrug* | ||
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Quesa
United States304 Posts
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:05 gh0un wrote: If we are talking about a raven that is following the marine army, then there is no way the mutas can fly in and snipe the raven before the marines deal more damage to the mutalisks. Why you ask? The answer is pdd. Actually the mutas wont swipe in just because of marine dps. You never go even near marines with mutas. Even 10 mutas vs 5 marines you lose more vespene. | ||
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LinGz
Dominican Republic23 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:03 pirates wrote: HSM is too slow to kill mutas. It has huge travel time. HSM also requires you to have enough Energy, it takes a long time for a Raven to build up enough energy to use HSM. What if you get HSM upgrade and your raven gets sniped? Are you really going to make move Ravens and wait for Energy? Waste 500 gas and get literally nothing? That could have been 2 thors and +1 mech upgrade. Ravens are awful, think about the gas. just saying, HSM is incredibly good if you shoot them close range. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:05 gh0un wrote: If we are talking about a raven that is following the marine army, then there is no way the mutas can fly in and snipe the raven before the marines deal more damage to the mutalisks. Why you ask? The answer is pdd. pdd, then we cant use HSM anyway and having ravens cuts into medivac production we can have 2 ports, but then tank production slows down | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
On June 01 2011 23:02 Mailing wrote: Then get HSM Mutas have 3 range, if they are in range to shoot a raven they are in range to eat one. Yeah, muta's getting hit by seeker missile is one of the most hilarious things in the entire game xD | ||
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